Help with user groups

kramerkeller · Apprentice Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 179

Alright so I need a little help with how user groups work.

I went to my groups file and I see tons of stuff with users on 100 and ssh on 22 and ftp on 21.

I also made a not-root login for myself and my friend.

However, I am not sure how to give us access to write files, run executables and the like and even how to make it possible for us to make user accounts for others (maybe that can only be done on root).

The other thing I was wondering is under groups I noticed portage had a name. SO is portage basically
allowed to log in to my machine (i know what portage is, but could someone else name themselve portage and log in or what - I have NO CLUE Obviously)

I guess I am just wondering if everytime I create a login - do I have to add the person to all the things they need. LIke VIDEO and some that are just needed. Pleasee just explain and help. You guys are the best.

HAL_9000 · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:15 am Post subject:

you do NOT want to allow users to make other users in files like /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow...

if you wish to create users from within a user account, make sure it's not much more than ftp/email access...
no shell anyway... and you're probably going to use pam or somethink...
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kramerkeller · Apprentice Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 179

Okay, right now. I set up a user named kramer. I can log in, but then I can't do anything. I can't even su to root after logging in. Now, am using putty to log in via SSH and I would like to not log in as root from a remote location becasue I guess that is pretty bad. However, I would like to log in from a remote location adn be able to do something other than look at files. I owuld like to even su to root, so that I can do things here and there that require root priveleges. I have one of those jobs with extra time and if I could do all my linux fun from there it would be great Please help me to make a user with rights or permissions and a way to safely do anything from a remote location that I could do from home, like emerging a program or running program. After this I can worry about a group of users with specific privileges.

ausmusj1 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Posts: 121

kramerkeller · Apprentice Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 179

WOW! That worked great. Now I figured out a lot of permissions stuff, like chmod 777 and 751 and 666 I have a list of what 1-7 means and all that. However, I really would like to just set up a user group. I would like an admin group where everyone in that group just has those permissions that I have set up for those in the group.

ausmusj1 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Posts: 121

Well, there should be a "users" group already set up in your installation. However, if you are wanting to create a new group that you will use for stanrard users, you can create new groups with the following:

kramerkeller · Apprentice Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 179

Thanks - it seems the more I ask the more I need to ask. SO my original impression of user groups was that I could set rights to the group- as far as what the group could do, like chmod 777 - that sort of stuff.

So lets say i added a group called admin - which I did

I later just went into the group file and added kramer, kyle, and nate to the admin grup which is like 401 or something. So now I want us to be able to pretty much access everything, and if I ever add an admin in the future I could just add him to the group adn the group would have all the permissions. The I would like to make a users group I guess. In this group I would like people to maybe have access to there own folder and some user files and programs that are available. How would I go about doing that. How do I set group permissions? Then I guess I would make a special folder or use the user folder and put programs and stuff in there everyone could use. Please help me out with this. I just want to let my friends have a spot to store a file and get files, but not go everywhere. Except my close computers friends of course I trust them and will let them learn gentoo with me as admins. Any help would be great and thanks I did set up a group - I am just tyring to figure out what to do with the group.

kramerkeller · Apprentice Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 179

Wow - sudo is great

So in sud0 - can I give my friends some root privaleges, but restrict a few things

I would like to be able to have my close freinds emerge some programs - so I want them to have some privaleges - i guess I could just tell them to ask me first - or maybe a log so I see when they emerge stuff. Or help with groups!! I set up a an admin group, but I have no idea how to manipulate the privaleges they have. I guess I have to add friends to the portage group maybe, or can I make a group that has access to portage. I am still confused - HELP?

kramerkeller · Apprentice Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 179

Group permissions - anyone - anyone - basic guide to linux commands - reference guide would be prefect - anyone - anyone

Thanks for the help in advance

HAL_9000 · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject:

kramerkeller · Apprentice Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 179

So if I create a group called admin. Which I have and I add users to that group - like kraemr, kyle, nate - which I have.
Now I would like kramer, kyle, and nate to basically be able to do anything - alsmot like root. Can I set it up so that anyone in the admin group can basically do anything, but people in usr group can only read and write or something like that. (I am not sure yet). OR do I have to set permissions for each user added like chmod kyle 777 or something like that. I would prefer just to add people to different groups taht have different permissions.