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d11wtq
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:42 am    Post subject: Uptime question - when to worry Reply with quote

Hi,

Just wondering what people would consider a good amount of time to successfully be running Gentoo (well any distro) before it crashes.

I don't know why but for some reason my laptop, after about 10 days maybe of not being turned off, crashes.

The hard drive light goes on constant but it makes no ticking sound like its working. It will respond to ping requests but trying to move the mouse or press the keyboard is a dead loss. Connecting by SSH just hangs before it even promptrs for login.

Obviously I aren't running an expensive server or anything but still... is 10 days at a time anything I should be looking for problems over? To be honest, 10 days is probably making my poor laptop suffer in any case :oops:

BTW... I'm always in KDE so I might do an experiment for the next couple of weeks on only use the console on this system to see what difference it makes.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I would consider any crash to be trouble, no matter how long uptime
I have :). A healthy linux box will stay running until the next power loss, major
hardware failure, natural disaster or other force majeure. Constant crashing
is usually a sign of a hardware fault, a bad kernel or some other misconfiguration.

You might want to try pinpointing the cause of the crash from your system logs,
and using the 'Magic SysRq key' kernel option (in Kernel Debugging). And it goes
without saying that if you have any "look ma' no hands!"-stuff like an experimental
kernel or insane CFLAGS going on, you might want to try without them :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have done 10+ days uptime with my laptop, without any silly sleep/hibernate thingy. ;)
as previous speaker said, any crash is a bad crash.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nuteater wrote:
Well, I would consider any crash to be trouble, no matter how long uptime
I have :). A healthy linux box will stay running until the next power loss, major
hardware failure, natural disaster or other force majeure. Constant crashing
is usually a sign of a hardware fault, a bad kernel or some other misconfiguration.

You might want to try pinpointing the cause of the crash from your system logs,
and using the 'Magic SysRq key' kernel option (in Kernel Debugging). And it goes
without saying that if you have any "look ma' no hands!"-stuff like an experimental
kernel or insane CFLAGS going on, you might want to try without them :)


Yeah thanks... I wonder if it's possibly the hard disk itself... it's dell (I work with them at work, ugh).

I'll check my logs on see if anything looks obvious. The kernel is 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no reason why a laptop should not be able to get same uptimes as servers (a couple of hundred days). Just because the hardware is a little smaller does not mean that it is allowed to crash.

That said, many laptops nowadays have cooling problems. Don't buy hotware.
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