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casper2601 Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 6:10 pm Post subject: HELP!! 8139too, MII and adsl (pppoe) stopped working |
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Hi guys, thanks for reading,one thing after another lol
I finally got my usb mouse working, but after making new settings to kernel (then make dep&&make clean bzImage modules modules_install, the copying bzImage to /boot), I cannot adsl-start anymore, simply times out. I just learned about copying bzImage to boot, and over the last few days ive been making alot of changes(without copying bzImage to /boot), so maybe I messed something up for my realtech8139 (too). Previously if I remember correctly, I initially had to insmod 8139too, then do my adsl-setup, then adsl-start and it always worked (i had to adsl-start everytime i rebooted) but 8139too never showed up in lsmod but always worked.
So now I try adding 8139too in the kernel as a module, but insmod 8139too give me some sym link errors, but I can modprobe it successfully. now in lsmod i see 8139too (unused) but now I also see listed MII [8139too], what is that, i never seen that before. Anyway when I adsl-start, it times out and I cant connect.
What am I doing wrong????? What else do I have to enable in the kernel to get this connection up and running?? (ex: ppp or anything to that effect?) and is it better to add these as modules or actually compile it in the kernel?
your help is much appreciated
best regards
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svyatogor Retired Dev
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Posts: 186 Location: Kingdom of Kells
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Hullo!
I'm not sure what exactly you are trying to do Do you have an ethernet adsl modem? Anyway, the mii is a module responsible for some memory, management and as far as I know it is required by 8139too (I have it myself on my laptop).
For the ADSL now Did you compile the PPP sync and other modules into kernel? If you could list which setting you specified for PPP it might help. I remeber reading somewhere (I gues www.gentoo.org ) that you need PPP syncronous and asyncronous (PPP sync ...something, PPP async ... something) modules for ppp other ethernet to work. |
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casper2601 Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your reply, basically I have a Realtech8139 NIC card and I simply want to connect through my high speed ADSL isp (surf the web, emerge, online gaming etc..)
I had it all setup, but after i got my usb mouse working and recompiled my kernel,...ADSL-START stopped connecting, I dont have anything in my kernel setup in regard to (ppp anything...maybe that my problem..)thats why i posted this to find out for sure... I need everyones knowledge
I appreciate any advice everyone !!
best regarsd,
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Vancouverite Apprentice
Joined: 28 Sep 2002 Posts: 162 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 3:29 am Post subject: |
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After modprobe 8139too and verifying it's loaded with lsmod, have you tried grabbing an IP address with: dhcpcd |
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matosale Apprentice
Joined: 02 Jan 2003 Posts: 218 Location: Lima - Peru // Linz - Austria
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 6:11 am Post subject: Re: HELP!! 8139too, MII and adsl (pppoe) stopped working |
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casper2601 wrote: | So now I try adding 8139too in the kernel as a module, but insmod 8139too give me some sym link errors, but I can modprobe it successfully. now in lsmod i see 8139too (unused) but now I also see listed MII [8139too], what is that, i never seen that before. Anyway when I adsl-start, it times out and I cant connect.
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after you put 8139 as module, did you put it in /etc/modules.autload? if you see 8139too wen you type lsmod, then is allready loaded and "unused" because your adsl is not yet started. Maybe is out there a way to run "adsl-start" at boot-time and you don't have to type it everytime you boot the pc...
I hope you find the answer
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casper2601 Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Inever tried that because I never needed anything relevant to dhcp before!!, I compiled and modulated 8139too, insmod 8139too, then adsl-setup and it worked.
But for some reason it won't now, should i try uninstalling 8139too, first...then re-add it in another make menuconfig (i do notice alot of unresolved symbols)
what do u think??
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Vancouverite Apprentice
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Here's what I'd do first before anything else.
1) modprobe 8139too
2) dhcpcd
Now run ifconfig to verify that you got an IP address on eth0. If this works then do this:
edit /etc/modules.autoload and add: 8139too
edit /etc/conf.d/local.start and add: dhcpcd
This will configure your network card every boot and you're done. If this doesn't work you need the PPPoE. Try this and post you might not even need PPPoE support at all. |
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casper2601 Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'm gonna give this a try tonight, thanks for your fast reply. I've use many distro (redhat, mandrake, evilE and gentoo) and I have always used roaring penguin (pppoe) I never had to do anything relevant to dhcpcd before) although i will give it a go.
Another note: when i modprobe 8139too (mii automatically loads...I have never seen this before and Im wondering is this mii.o might be the problem and if so what do I do??)
Another point I noticed is when I modprobe 8139too and try adsl-connect and then it times out, but if I try to adsl-start again...it says" there seems to already be a connection on PID ((forget what number of PID it stated)). Also if i "ifconfig eth0" It does seems to pick up something but it dosnt say anything about 8139too or realtech (incase this is a clue).
Another question that ties into this (might help) is with pppoe, what do I need compiled or added as modules (example: ppp and related options, dummy.o??) basically what should I have in my kernel to support my ADSL modem and realtek 8139 NIC card.
Thanks soooooooo much for taking time to help me.
very best regards,
casper
I know Ill get this fixed with your guys help |
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z0mbix n00b
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 10 Location: London, UK
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casper2601 Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Jeez, ive been reading these forums all day and can't seem to find anything relevant to my situation
Seems hopeless Man I hope i can fix this hehe.
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svyatogor Retired Dev
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Posts: 186 Location: Kingdom of Kells
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Did you try to recompile your kernel with following options:
Network Device Support -->
PPP (point-to-point protocol) support
PPP support for async serial ports
PPP support for sync tty ports
Without these pppoe won't work. |
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casper2601 Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you my friend for your reply,
I do indeed have these 3 options installed (compiled, not as modules), but I think i also have a few other ppp option installed (maybe i should stick with the 3 options you told me and remove the others....what do u think? and what is the story with mii?? should i install 8139too as a modules or compile (which would be better?) What other options do i have to install in regard to networking, i keep hearing about this dummy.o option???
What do u think??
best regrads,
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Zu` l33t
Joined: 26 May 2002 Posts: 716 Location: BE
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casper2601 Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Sorry about crossthread, tuff being a noob...sooo many questions.
For zOmbix, and all my patient viewers.
I fixed my problem, i fixed it by basically make a total re-configuration of my kernel.
zOmbix, make sure u have your NIC card added as modules, make sure u have these option configured (not module)
PPP (peer to peer)
PPP (async)
PPP (sync tty ports)
i also added dummy.o as a modules (this may be pointless)
*****BE SURE TO DOUBLE CHECK, TRIPLE CHECK EVEN YOUR ADSL-SETUP (for typos)
I think my problem was I was being too gutsy with my net configurations, removing the wrong things, thats why i ended up doing a "make mrproper" and starting a fresh make menuconfig, because it makes sure the important (standard stuff) is set...then go from there.
THANKS sooo much everyone for the help and guidance, if you ever come to N.B Canada, the beer is on me
well i'm off to the forums to see if I can give any help to others
best regards,
casper
p.s: thanks big time Zu for your patience |
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Zu` l33t
Joined: 26 May 2002 Posts: 716 Location: BE
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Cool.
Good to know your adsl connection works again
Now you can go have fun with your Gentoo system on the net.
As for dummy.o I think it's just for testing purposes, not really needed, but it won't hurt either.
Good luck with Gentoo! _________________ No growth without resistance.
No action without reaction.
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z0mbix n00b
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 10 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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casper2601 wrote: |
For zOmbix, and all my patient viewers.
I fixed my problem, i fixed it by basically make a total re-configuration of my kernel.
zOmbix, make sure u have your NIC card added as modules, make sure u have these option configured (not module)
PPP (peer to peer)
PPP (async)
PPP (sync tty ports)
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I can't even get Gentoo installed as one of the first steps is getting your network going. I think I'll install via chroot. Cheers anyway |
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