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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: Instability with NPTL Reply with quote

Hello, everyone, I was having the infamous kde bug, where when attempting to view a website I would get a message about "process died unexpectedly"

The consensus in that thread was that I should add "nptl nptlonly" to my USE flags and recompile glibc.

It worked!

Only problem is that now alot of my apps have become really unstable. KDE works fine, but lots of other stuff will launch and stay open a couple of seconds then die.

I just recompiled my kernel and that seems to have helped especially with 3D apps (I'm thinking radeon needed to be recompiled). However I'm still getting glitches in alot of programs that use GTK, for instance GIMP

My question then is should I try to do a complete rebuild of the world? And if so, how do I rebuild my entire system
emerge -ud --world
Doesn't seem to cut it, doing it, calculates dependencies and rebuilds any apps that have recently changed versions but it doesn't seem to want to rebuild the entire application set.

My other thinking, and the reason I posted here, is because NPTL is a kernel feature, was there some kernel option I was supposed to enable to allow compatibility?

Anyways, any help is appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe you will have to rebuild the whole system. You would do this with:
Code:
emerge gcc && emerge gcc && emerge -eav system


There is nothing in the kernel that you need to config for NPTL to work. But you do need to make sure that you do have 2.6 linux headers, which I believe are now a default in gentoo. Also the reason that we're emerging gcc twice is because it needs to build it once to be new, then a second time to be compiled with the optimizations from the new gcc.

You will also want this in /etc/portage/package.keywords :
Code:
sys-devel/gcc ~x86
sys-devel/gcc-config ~x86
sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 ~x86
sys-libs/glibc ~x86


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the point in having an 'unstable' toolchain and glibc? Is this really some magical way to achieve perfect system stability? ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:55 am    Post subject: That scares me Reply with quote

Wholly cow, seriously using unstable all the way across the board like that freaks me out just looking at it.

I'm not using anything in unstable mode except ati-drivers, and even those are unmerged again at the moment since ATI can't pull it's head out of it's ass and release a driver for 3D card, capable of handling both 2D (composite) and 3D (DRI). One things for certain, anything with ATI logo on it, is never getting my dollars again
/end rant


Anyways, other than the keywords mentioned above, I do think that the recompile is a really good if time consuming idea.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:07 am    Post subject: Compile crashed... Reply with quote

Ok doing the above caused it to bork out with some errors, so I tried this and it seems to work fine...
emerge -ud --world --newuse
Any caveats I should be aware of?
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