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koenderoo
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 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject: Should I upgrade to 2005.1? [solved] |
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I am wondering if I should upgrade from 2005.0 to 2005.1?
Does it give me any advantages?
Is my system the same as a 2005.1 after a full emerge -u world on my current system?
So basicly: what's the difference between a fully updated system installed under 2005.0 and a new installed system under 2005.1?
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expat_iain
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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AFAIK, nothing. That's the beauty of Gentoo (and Debian...and FreeBSD).
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Should I upgrade to 2005.1? |
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| koenderoo wrote: |
So basicly: what's the difference between a fully updated system installed under 2005.0 and a new installed system under 2005.1? |
the only difference is where /etc/make.profile points to
so dont bother re-doing yr installation, just re-sync and emerge world and you will more uptodate then the liveCD
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karol
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Updating to 2005.1 ?
Why ? Have you forgotten that everytime you hit :
| Code: | | # emerge -auDv world |
your gentoo is being updated to the newest ver. ?
I belive that the making new liveCDs is for users who need to install gentoo on clean box (fresh new installation)... And for those who don't have internet connection... IMHO
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koenderoo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Why is it that every time someone tells how to update world it comes with a different set of options?
AFAIK emerge world or emerge -u world is fine.
And no, I did not forget that I could update my system, I was just curious if it changes anything special. Somthing I can't change with updating. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:51 am Post subject: |
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emerge world -u isn't enough if you really want an up-to-date boxe,
| Code: | | emerge --sync && emerge world -Duav |
will also update the dependancy packages (all those which are automaticly emerged when emerging something (ie the dependancies:lol: )
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koenderoo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Ok.
That just gave me a bit more packages to install....
Thanks for clearing this up! |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| koenderoo wrote: | Why is it that every time someone tells how to update world it comes with a different set of options?
AFAIK emerge world or emerge -u world is fine.
And no, I did not forget that I could update my system, I was just curious if it changes anything special. Somthing I can't change with updating. |
To -D or not to -D is a matter of taste. -v gives you a little more info about what you're doing. Especially if you want to check use flags.
-a makes things a little easier if you want to actually check what will happen.
Do you actually do emerge -u world withought doing -a or -p first? You're a nutter if you do.
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| I've been told several times that -D (shorthand for --deep) will cause weird problems. I don't use it anymore. |
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| Satori80 wrote: | | I've been told several times that -D (shorthand for --deep) will cause weird problems. I don't use it anymore. |
I've used it daily on upto three machines for about 18months now.
Like I said, personal preference. I find it nice too make sure *all* apps are upto date, not just the most visible ones. Sometimes upgrading a dependancy can give you some nice features. Sometimes it can bork your system.....
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Here's my formula to upgrade my system, and keep it clean: | Code: | emerge sync
glsa-check -f all
emerge world -uDNva
emerge depclean -va
revdep-rebuild -va
dispatch-conf
/usr/local/sbin/eclean -d distfiles
/usr/local/sbin/eclean -d packages
etcportclean -c111111 -r1 -w1 -d1 -v1 |
dispatch-conf is a alternative tool to etc-update, which basically does the same thing, but keeps a backup of the old files.
eclean can be fetch here (the script, the man page, and the patch to the latest version), it erases the old distfiles, and built packages from the portage tree.
etcportclean can be fetched here, it cleans outdated, invalid, duplicated entries from /etc/portage/package.* files
Hope it helps,
Ricardo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Might help if you can tell me where to get revdep-rebuild. |
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| koenderoo wrote: | | Might help if you can tell me where to get revdep-rebuild. |
Sorry about that. I have use gentoolkit for years, so I wrongly assumed everyone had it emerged. | Code: | | emerge app-portage/gentoolkit -va |
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