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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Is there a complete book for step by step instead of hndbook Reply with quote

Hi all im new to the forum, new to gentoo, and new to linux. I have downloaded x86 universal 2005.0 and 2005.1 + x86 packages. After downloading all those files, I reboot with linux universal CD, but no matter what I can't get pass the Fdisk. I'm trying to create a new partition and set gentoo as my primary disk. I'm currently running xp now but would like to delete all of xp and just start fresh off of gentoo. I followed the handbook guide for 2005.0 and 2005.1 and when enter fdisk i never seen no command prompt. So is there a book in the store or somthing that I can buy that actually tell every single step on how to use gentoo for noobs such as myself.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A printed book would probably be a nice idea, but of course you could print out the handbook for yourself if you'd like. As for fdisk, if I type...

Code:

# fdisk /dev/hda


...this is what I see:

Code:

The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 14946.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)

Command (m for help):


Do you not see similar?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats the thing I dont see that, I been reading the installing page one the handbook for two nights and nothing seem to come out of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snazzy gen2 wrote:
Thats the thing I dont see that, I been reading the installing page one the handbook for two nights and nothing seem to come out of it.


Okay, so what do you see when you type fdisk? When I'm not root I see this:

Code:

$ fdisk
bash: fdisk: command not found

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see
Fdisk [-1] [-b SSZ] [-U] device
E.G.:fdisk /dev/hda
or : fdisk /dev/sdc
or : fdisk /dev/eda
or : fdisk /dev/rd/c0do

and when I enter fdisk /dev/hda
it say somthing not able to load....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snazzy gen2 wrote:
I see
Fdisk [-1] [-b SSZ] [-U] device
E.G.:fdisk /dev/hda
or : fdisk /dev/sdc
or : fdisk /dev/eda
or : fdisk /dev/rd/c0do

and when I enter fdisk /dev/hda
it say somthing not able to load....


What it is not able to load is probably the most important thing. What fdisk does is read in the partition table of your hard drive and allows you to edit it. Is this a new disk or do you use it to boot into another operating system?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EzInKy wrote:
snazzy gen2 wrote:
Thats the thing I dont see that, I been reading the installing page one the handbook for two nights and nothing seem to come out of it.


Okay, so what do you see when you type fdisk? When I'm not root I see this:

Code:

$ fdisk
bash: fdisk: command not found


When you boot from Gentoo liveCD.. you're always root.. so that should not happen...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snazzy gen2 wrote:
I see
Fdisk [-1] [-b SSZ] [-U] device
E.G.:fdisk /dev/hda
or : fdisk /dev/sdc
or : fdisk /dev/eda
or : fdisk /dev/rd/c0do

and when I enter fdisk /dev/hda
it say somthing not able to load....


What kind of disk you have? Maybe you need to do:
Code:
fdisk /dev/sda

Also, do:
Code:
fdisk -l

for listing your partition table. note that is a small L !!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariem wrote:
EzInKy wrote:
snazzy gen2 wrote:
Thats the thing I dont see that, I been reading the installing page one the handbook for two nights and nothing seem to come out of it.


Okay, so what do you see when you type fdisk? When I'm not root I see this:

Code:

$ fdisk
bash: fdisk: command not found


When you boot from Gentoo liveCD.. you're always root.. so that should not happen...


Yes, I know. I was demonstrating the importance of noting errors.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a new disk I just burn less than 24 hours ago. How come Im getting that prompt and everyone else is getting somthing different?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snazzy gen2 wrote:
That is a new disk I just burn less than 24 hours ago. How come Im getting that prompt and everyone else is getting somthing different?

I didn't get it.. what's new? Your disk or the cd?? :?: :?:
what's the output of
Code:
fdisk -l
??
Do you have a SCSI disk?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may also want to try 'cfdisk'. Not as powerful but somehow simpler than fdisk ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariem wrote:
snazzy gen2 wrote:
That is a new disk I just burn less than 24 hours ago. How come Im getting that prompt and everyone else is getting somthing different?

I didn't get it.. what's new? Your disk or the cd?? :?: :?:
what's the output of
Code:
fdisk -l
??
Do you have a SCSI disk?



I'm sorry for the confustion. I thought you meant cd when you said disk. Ihave an IDE disk drive 60gb that has Xp pro currently installed. Partition 20gb NTFS, 20gb non-format, 15gb partition non-format.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When trying to install i put the universal cd in and reboot at startup to acess gentoo live cd. The available option was F1 and F2. I just chose F1 and go on with the default kernel. It load up yadi yadi yah then stop at root prompt. Enter fdisk but have no clue why it didn't allow me access the partition table. My original goal was to delete xp with universal cd so I can use gentoo as my main operating system. I said earlier and now that I've been tryn for 2 night and 1 day and today is my second day. Even though I follow the handbook it give me no further instruction on how to troubleshoot this matter.:cry:
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try cfdisk as was recommended above, it's interface is reminicent of the old dos fdisk.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GCR wrote:
You may also want to try 'cfdisk'. Not as powerful but somehow simpler than fdisk ;)


Thanks thats what I was looking for... Though what unit type do you guys reccomend?. I want to dual boot gentoo and osx... so what type of unit do i write the disk format as?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couple of points;
- you *are* using the (full) handbook I hope - the quick install guide is too brief for a first time install.
- after booting the LiveCD run the following as requested above, and post the results here
Code:
fdisk -l

- I don'tknow anything about OSX - I'd just leave some of the unformatted space for it, and see what it's installer does.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

syg00 wrote:

- after booting the LiveCD run the following as requested above, and post the results here
Code:
fdisk -l



I'm betting he did fdisk -1 (one) and not fdisk -l (el)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EzInKy wrote:
syg00 wrote:

- after booting the LiveCD run the following as requested above, and post the results here
Code:
fdisk -l



I'm betting he did fdisk -1 (one) and not fdisk -l (el)

When I mention that option to him (or her), I explicity said: "it's a small L".. if that was the problem.. then he/she should read more carefully :P

About the advices for filesystems.. it's really up to you! The handbook refers the main ones and has a quite good description of each one. So read it (carefully) and choose the one you think fits better to your needs. BTW, I use reiserfs. :D

About osx.. no idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use cfdisk instad, I always use it and it has a graphic ui.
Code:
cfdisk

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