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atrus123 Guru
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 339 Location: Annapolis, MD
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject: footprint.. |
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My Gentoo footprint in Fluxbox is only 40mb. I love it. And that's with running torsmo, gdeskcal, and an imbedded aterm.
Is there any reason at all to upgrade my laptop to 1gb ram?
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i92guboj Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 10315 Location: Córdoba (Spain)
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Well, that is a question with double answer. In absolute terms (and talking about performance) it is obvious that, the more ram, the more speed (to certain limit of course). Mainly, because with 1gb, the use of swap will become very rare. Another thing to consider is that that will also save some hard disk activity, making the life of your hd longer.
On the other side, you need to consider if you are really going to use it.
To clear it up: in my opinion, it does not depend in what WM or DE do you use, but in the thing that you do with them. If you encode video or compile very big things, then your memory will fill up soon, and does not matter wich WM do you use. If you just do light office works or the like, then you can run with your actual memory size.
To give you an idea, I use fvwm, wich loaded can take about 40mb of mem, with just some dropdown terms, a pager, a mixer applet and four pages in a single desktop. In adiction, I sometimes play around with kde-3.4, a customized to the bone kde that takes about 67mb just booted. Even if you use a heavier wm, the difference is not so big (untill you start opening a lot of qt and gtk apps, of course).
Short response: if you can afford it on a comfortable manner then upgrade it. |
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atrus123 Guru
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 339 Location: Annapolis, MD
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, that's true with regards to the swapfile, but as of right now, Gentoo barely touches it. Aside from bootup, the harddrive barely flickers at all.
Maybe if I were going to start running larger programs on this laptop the gig would be worthwhile, but as of now, the largest thing I've got is the Gimp, and even it seems perfectly content with my 512.
I'm just in awe of my Gentoo. It's so small and fast, a far cry from the 128mb base footprint Windows has. I'm sure my using Fluxbox helps too. I have a feeling that Gnome and KDE are quite a bit bulkier.
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Lord Bob n00b
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 62 Location: State of confusion, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Right now I have 263MB free on my system. I have 482MB of total RAM. I am quite content with how much memory I have. Keep in mind though, I am currently running a couple Konqueror Windows, Kopete, Amarok, Gkrellm, Kcalc, Konsole, Valknut, MySQL, cups, etc and my system is still crusing along like nothing's happening.
So far, the only time I touch swap is when I'm compiling large packages like KDE.
So, basically like 6thpink said, unless you're going to be doing heavier-duty work, then 512MB should be good for basic web browsing, email, word processing, music listening, 3D game playing (scorched3d is so awesome!) on dual monitors all simultaneously .... in a tricked out KDE setup like me! _________________ This post brought to you by the letters: T, U, and X, and by the numbers 2 and 6.
"The joy from having 3D flying toasters across two monitors almost brought a tear to my eye " -- Me |
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Sanome n00b
Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 51 Location: N.W England
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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atrus123 wrote: | I'm just in awe of my Gentoo. It's so small and fast, a far cry from the 128mb base footprint Windows has. I'm sure my using Fluxbox helps too. I have a feeling that Gnome and KDE are quite a bit bulkier.
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Yep, on my Gentoo/Fluxbox systems I've booted up to around 40-43 mb ram as seen via Top just after boot-up and before opening any other programs.- for interest, my Gentoo/kdebase system has booted up to around 90-92 mb ram (because it's primarily using kdebase and very little other kde components) - I've had XFce on Gentoo at around 50-55 mb ram and GNOME around 65-70 mb ram. |
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i92guboj Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 10315 Location: Córdoba (Spain)
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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I use to use fvwm. But a CLEAN kde install, takes no more than ~70 mb on just booted. At least in my box. |
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