Useful tools...

dpetka2001 · l33t Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 804

Hello there...I would like to know which tools I should use in order to keep my Gentoo box in order...for example what to use to keep my etc-update,what to use to delete any cruft that is not necessary,what to use to find for specific packages (and dependencies) ,how to make a proper emerge -uD world (what about toolchain? should it be updated seperately and before doing emerge world/system??) and any other stuff you would recommend useful to be on Gentoo box to keep it in order i might not be aware of...thanks in advance...

robbar · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:17 am Post subject:

Definitely very useful is the GentoolKit. You'll find some introductory information here:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoolkit.xml

dpetka2001 · l33t Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 804

any other opinions/recommendations??

Cintra · Advocate Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 2111 Location: Norway

I would start here.. https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-67849-highlight-portlog.html
Personally I would be lost without genlop, portlog, eix & porthole, and have recently started using cfgupdate to simplify my etc-updates.
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dpetka2001 · l33t Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 804

and what about keeping Gentoo updated?? what should be the right process (toolchain,system,world)?? I've read somewhere about doing a doubble "emerge -e system" and a doubble "emerge -e world" in order to have the toolkits the right way builded and then the rest of your applications...shoud I do it this way?? is there another tool which would keep my Gentoo updated and the right way builded?? thanks in advance...

St. Joe · Apprentice Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 242 Location: USA

Most people get along fine using a procedure similar to what is listed below. Many will tell you that if you update packages in your toolchain (binutils, glibc, gcc) that you can do a 2x emerge -e system/world for more stability (which is true), but I've never found this to be necessary. I just update as I go along and let portage do its thing.

dpetka2001 · l33t Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 804

what should I use for watching extended messages when the Gentoo boots?? dmesg doesn't show the messages when Gentoo is booting...

groovin · Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:01 am Post subject:

i generally try to leave /etc alone. as many others do. i try to stay away of what changes follow an upgrade of an app and go from there. in my experience, the stuff i do run like samba or apache dont see too many config changes... i upgraded samba2.0.x to samba3 using the same configs.

search the forums, there are many threads on keeping a system updated.

dpetka2001 · l33t Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 804

what about the messages during boot I wrote about in my previous message?? I had seen something relevant in the Gentoo-Wiki sometime but am not able to track it down again...so any help would be appreciated...thanks in advance...

Cintra · Advocate Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 2111 Location: Norway

dpetka2001 · l33t Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 804

sorry to make a maybe stupid question but what is vlm?? I am noob yet and am not aware of many things...should I emerge something?? in packages-gentoo I found nothing about vlm...also are you aware of something relevant in the gentoo-wiki?? I could swear that I had once read something about what I'm searching but am not in the position to find it again...thanks in advance...

dpetka2001 · l33t Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 804

could you also give me some tips on uninstalling packages I don't need any more and each package's dependencies?? also could someone explain the differences between direct and reverse dependencies?? thanks in advance...

dpetka2001 · l33t Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 804

any opinions/recommedations on how to uninstall a package and its dependencies the right way so that my system is clean after the uninstall?? thanks in advance...