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 Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: clearlooks cairo - first milestone |
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clearlooks now does cairo, it's not complete but for the impatiant:
cvs -d ':pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome' login
cvs -z3 -d ':pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome' checkout gtk-engines
cd gtk-engines && ./autgen.sh --prefix=/usr
then as I do (fooling the ebuild):
emerge -f gtk-engines, look in the tarball how the folder is named
(in my case gtk-engines-2.6.5)
mv gtk-engines gtk-engines-2.6.5 && tar -jcvf gtk-engines-2.6.5 gtk-engines-2.6.5.tar.bz2
copy bzip2 file to $distfiles and emerge --digest gtk-engines
CVS version of cairo seems to be a bit faster, with it this clearlooks version is as snappy as normal one.
Don't know if it also uses glitz. btw, CVS cairo breaks when enabling glitz (even CVS version).
The bleuish scrollbars and highlights can be too much, in that case adjust in theme details.
neat combi: clearlooks-gperfection with office metacity theme 
happy breaking 
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HazarT
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: Thank you |
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| Hey, thank's. The Clearlooks-cairo has come far since i last tried it out. Looks very promising indeed. |
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tr4nce
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Seems to work fine with my gentoo Compiled glitz and cairo from cvs (cairo cvs isn't breaking with --enable-glitz anymore). Here you got a screeny
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chtephan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Would you please stop making such a fuss about glitz. --enable-glitz enables a GL backend, but GTK+ is a pure X11/XRender-based library. As long as GTK doesn't support GL there won't be anything. It's experimental anyway and buggy. It will be of use once we have a real OpenGL-based X server, but there's still a long way to go.
Anyway, I'm going to test that verison clearlooks-cairo now. |
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graphic23
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:27 am Post subject: |
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I installed it a few hours ago. It rocks. I love it very much. I think the blue scrollbar looks attractive -well it matches my desktop. I like it very much.
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infiniteedge
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, this sounds retarded... how do I install clearlooks on gnome 2.10? I found http://clearlooks.sourceforge.net/, downloaded the metacity theme and installed it with the Theme Preferences in Gnome. But now don't I need the engine too?
Basically, how do I get my desktop to look like that screenshot? |
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monkey89
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| chtephan wrote: | Would you please stop making such a fuss about glitz. --enable-glitz enables a GL backend, but GTK+ is a pure X11/XRender-based library. As long as GTK doesn't support GL there won't be anything. It's experimental anyway and buggy. It will be of use once we have a real OpenGL-based X server, but there's still a long way to go.
Anyway, I'm going to test that verison clearlooks-cairo now. |
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but gtk 2.8 was rewritten to support cairo as the backend, which supports glitz as its backend. So theoretically, it is possible to use glitz, but its just unstable (and not close to ready), right? |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| infiniteedge wrote: | Ok, this sounds retarded... how do I install clearlooks on gnome 2.10? I found http://clearlooks.sourceforge.net/, downloaded the metacity theme and installed it with the Theme Preferences in Gnome. But now don't I need the engine too?
Basically, how do I get my desktop to look like that screenshot? |
Think that you use gtk+ 2.6 with gnome 2.10, in order to use cairo you should get gtk+ 2.8 and its dependancies including the cairo package.
After this you should be able to install the new engine.
clearlooks-cairo is only available in CVS and thus you'd have to perform the steps above in this post.
couldn't resist making a http://members.home.nl/relic/screenie.jpg |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| monkey89 wrote: | | chtephan wrote: | Would you please stop making such a fuss about glitz. --enable-glitz enables a GL backend, but GTK+ is a pure X11/XRender-based library. As long as GTK doesn't support GL there won't be anything. It's experimental anyway and buggy. It will be of use once we have a real OpenGL-based X server, but there's still a long way to go.
Anyway, I'm going to test that verison clearlooks-cairo now. |
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but gtk 2.8 was rewritten to support cairo as the backend, which supports glitz as its backend. So theoretically, it is possible to use glitz, but its just unstable (and not close to ready), right? |
Guess you're right. GTK+ doesnt have to support GL, cairo does via glitz.
Application will be able to use glitz API's defined in cairo trough GTK+, so glitz will only be available to lets say "clearlooks-cairo" when GTK+
is able to use these glitz API's. Am I wrong here?
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thubble
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| rel wrote: | Guess you're right. GTK+ doesnt have to support GL, cairo does via glitz.
Application will be able to use glitz API's defined in cairo trough GTK+, so glitz will only be available to lets say "clearlooks-cairo" when GTK+
is able to use these glitz API's. Am I wrong here?
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Here's how it works: To draw something in Cairo you must create a cairo "surface". There are several functions to do this, namely (not sure if I got the names exactly right):
- cairo_xlib_create_surface(...)
- cairo_glitz_create_surface(...)
Gtk+ only contains code to call the Xlib version - it's not that the glitz code is hidden or commented out, it hasn't even been written yet. Unfortunately it's not as simple as just changing the function name - first you have to create a Glitz context, etc etc....
It's not that bad, however - Cairo still uses Xrender for acceleration. Unfortunately most drivers don't do Xrender acceleration very well. If you have an nVidia card, their binary drivers work great for Xrender as long as you explicitly turn it on in xorg.conf. Cairo stuff is at least as fast for me as its Xlib equivalent. Unfortunately, users of other cards appear to be out of luck for now.
I do hope the Gtk+ folks add support for Glitz soon, however. They originally said they weren't going to, and instead rely on Xgl/Xegl. Now that development on Xgl has halted, it'd be unfortunate if they did this. |
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madbiker
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm... I was using cairo 1.0.0-r2 instead of the cvs, and opening a new cairo window was incredibly slow.
Grabbed the cairo cvs, make and make install, but how do I tell if I'm using it? Or how do I switch to it? Or is there an ebuild? |
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orvtech
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| rel wrote: | | infiniteedge wrote: | Ok, this sounds retarded... how do I install clearlooks on gnome 2.10? I found http://clearlooks.sourceforge.net/, downloaded the metacity theme and installed it with the Theme Preferences in Gnome. But now don't I need the engine too?
Basically, how do I get my desktop to look like that screenshot? |
Think that you use gtk+ 2.6 with gnome 2.10, in order to use cairo you should get gtk+ 2.8 and its dependancies including the cairo package.
After this you should be able to install the new engine.
clearlooks-cairo is only available in CVS and thus you'd have to perform the steps above in this post.
couldn't resist making a http://members.home.nl/relic/screenie.jpg |
lol .. dude i just to leave in Holland a few years a go ... nice screen shot specially for the "veronica" tv chanell showing up Hup! Rotterdam!
ohh by the way i will try it now 
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PaulBredbury
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| infiniteedge wrote: | | Ok, this sounds retarded... how do I install clearlooks on gnome 2.10? I found http://clearlooks.sourceforge.net/, downloaded the metacity theme and installed it with the Theme Preferences in Gnome. But now don't I need the engine too? |
There are installation instructions on the wiki. |
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GaMMa
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Wow! I just decided to give clearlooks-cairo a try and in my opinion it seems a lot faster than the regular clearlooks. Windows and menus seem to draw faster. I'm using cairo-1.0.2 right now.
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