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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject: Really miss seeing an Interface... (SOLVED) Reply with quote

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Hey all... Hopefully you all arent tired of noobs coming in and asking stupid questions cause heres one:

Now, when I start up my computer I arrive at the Grub "interface", but I realized that i havent finished editing the grub.conf file yet... so I basically asking how to get from:

grub>

to

#>

After I get here, I'll type nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf
etc...

:roll:

Sorry. I know its crazy to ask... it must be so basic...


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you didn't configure your /boot/grub/menu.lst at all or you got it wrong:

Here is what it should look like (very basic)... you best bet is to boot of your LiveCD, mount your /boot partition (/ if not seperate) and edit the above file:
Code:

timeout 10
default 0
fallback 1

title Gentoo
root (hd0,0)
kernel /<your kernel> root=/dev/hda1

where (hd0,0) is the location of your /boot filesystem -> hda1 or sda1
where root=/dev/hda1 is where your / filesyste is located -> same as boot for me

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Ed for your fast answer!

What you said actually made it go a few paces forward... but Im stuck again. And being a noobie isnt helpful...

(...)
* activating (possible) swap [ok]
* remounting root filesystem read-only (if necceassry) [ok]
* checking root filesystem ---
fsck.ext.3: no such file or directory whey trying to open /dev/ROOT
/dev/ROOT
The superblock could not be read or does not descirbe a correct ext2
filesystem. If the device is valit and it deally contains and ext2
filesystem (And not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternative superblock:
e2fsck -b 8193 <device>

Filesystem couldn't be fixed :(


And im left with:
(none) ~ #

What have I done wrong? I dont understand any of this... I just followed the guide...

Thanks again...
Janicz
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janicz wrote:

* checking root filesystem ---
fsck.ext.3: no such file or directory whey trying to open /dev/ROOT
/dev/ROOT


You made a mistake in your /etc/fstab!

You'll have to substitude /dev/ROOT with i.e. /dev/hda3 (if you put your root partition on the third partition of your first harddrive, that is!) :wink:

Same goes for SWAP and BOOT partitions.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Guy's... I have to admit I dont understand anything... I think I chose the wrong Linux distribution :P I've never even seen Linux running 8O

I got past my problems earlier, and now i get to the login part, where i write my username, and password, and it stops at:

janicz@Janicz ~ $

I really miss seeing an interface. I emerged kde, but it stopped after a while when trying to connect to the internett, still, I believe it got "unpacked"...

Im probably going t try Xandros after this, but Gentoo must run before I do it!!! :)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, since you get a prompt, you've come quite far already. You now have a basic working gentoo linux system. If you have emerged kde, then you'll need to do some more configuring to have it started automatically after boot.
See the The KDE Configuration HOWTO for more information.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im very impressed with this community. Thanks for your help. Ill check it out now.

Will probably be back with a problem soon :)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could also try xfce4 as your window manager instead of kde.

just in case you want something basic and clean (quite small too)...

have a look at http://www.xfce.org/

there is no much configuration needed, for this.
only for your x-server (mine is xorg-x11), which has to be installed first, you need to do a little bit of setup (read on here) - its pretty easy ;)...

you're already in your linux-box - dont forget that!
you're just one step away from your nice graphical interface :D :D
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay. So im trying to emerge KDE and its stopping because Im not connected to the internet...

... I originally thought I could install this thing without being connected, but Im giving up. So now I have to configure the network. Its basically chapter 2 in the installation guide.

I type:

Janicz ~ # net-setup eth0

and get:

-bash: net-setup: command not found

What is this? Dont these commands work in the Linux Consoll?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janicz wrote:
Okay. So im trying to emerge KDE and its stopping because Im not connected to the internet...

What command did you use?

To emerge binary GRP packaged kde,
Code:
emerge --usepkgonly kde-meta

Janicz wrote:

Code:
 net-setup eth0


and get:
Code:

-bash: net-setup: command not found

What is this? Dont these commands work in the Linux Consoll?

The net-setup command is only available on the Gentoo install CD.

Also, when you post, please enclose all commands and everything that appears on the screen with the [code] ... [/code] BBCode tags.
It will make your post much more readable.

For example,

[code] gentoo # nano -w /etc/make.conf [/code]
[code] >>> Caching service dependencies... [/code]
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your reply.

I was using the command:
Code:
emerge kdebase-startkde


It looks like it was the "--usepkgonly" command I was missing.

Now I am getting:

Code:
Calculating dependencies
!!! There are no packages availible to satisfy: "Kde-meta"
!!! Either add a suitable binary package or compile from an ebuild.


I know I could find this one out by myself and learn more from it, but Im losing motivation and you all on the forums seem to want to help so Im just going to do that... :roll:
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do have the package CD with you, don't you.

Before emerging kde from binaries on the package CD, put it into the drive, then
Code:
mount /mnt/cdrom
export PKGDIR=/mnt/cdrom

Then emerge kde-meta as per the command in my previous post.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That didnt solve it. I get the following after typing:

Code:
 Janicz ~ # mount /mnt/cdrom
mount: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 already mounted or /mnt/cdrom busy
mount: according to mtab, /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 is already mounted on /mnt/cdrom

I try it several times and the message doesnt change.

When typing:
Code:
export PKGDIR=/mnt/cdrom

... nothing seems to happen. I just pops back to the root without any message.

And of course, the same error pops up as I mentioned in my previous post after typing emerge --usepkgonly kde-meta
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janicz wrote:
That didnt solve it. I get the following after typing:

Code:
 Janicz ~ # mount /mnt/cdrom
mount: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 already mounted or /mnt/cdrom busy
mount: according to mtab, /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 is already mounted on /mnt/cdrom

I try it several times and the message doesnt change.

Do you have a CDROM in the drive? If it's the install CD, take it out and put in the package CD instead, then do the mount again.
Janicz wrote:


When typing:
Code:
export PKGDIR=/mnt/cdrom

... nothing seems to happen. I just pop back to the root without any message.

Yes, that's expected.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimchi_sg: I don't see any reason to assume he is doing a GRP install and intends to use a package CD.


Janicz: did you have a working network connection from the livecd? (using net-setup?)

If so, to get it working from your installation try:
Code:
dhcpcd eth0

If it says command not found, then you did not emerge dhcpcd during installation and will probably need to boot from the livecd, mount your root parititon to /mnt/gentoo again, mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc, and chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash ... just like you during installation. Then you should be able to
Code:
emerge dhcpcd

That is, unless you know of a free IP and gateway to configure your network manually using "ifconfig <your IP>" and "route add default gw <gateway IP>"

If it says there is no interface named eth0, then post the output of
Code:
ifconfig -a

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dlareh wrote:
kimchi_sg: I don't see any reason to assume he is doing a GRP install and intends to use a package CD.

My bad.

But what's a CD still doing in his CD drive. :P
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimchi_sg wrote:
But what's a CD still doing in his CD drive. :P

I don't know... but I would guess he booted from the installation LiveCD again.

EDIT: yeah.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really appreciate you guys helping me out.

Theres quite a bit of suggestions in there so ill be back in a few minutes.

And I only have 1 cd, and it is in the cd-rom drive... Its the installation CD. :)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now Im loosing overview again...

Recap: You guy's are helping me install KDE, and this will eventually be done by typing:

1)
Code:
emerge --usepkgonly kde-meta

or
2)
Code:
emerge kde-meta


When I type the first command I get:
Code:
Calculating dependencies
!!! There are no packages availible to satisfy: "Kde-meta"
!!! Either add a suitable binary package or compile from an ebuild.


And when I type the second command I get:
Code:
Emerge (1 of 325) x11-base/xorg-x11-8.8.2-r2 to /
(...)
!!! Couldnt download X11R6.8.2-src.tar.bz2. Aborting

Im not including the whole thing because Its almost a whole screen and you probably know what its about

Now, Dlareh, Your helping me resolve the problem Im getting with the network when typing command 2. Right? :P

This happens after I type:
Code:
dhcpcd eth0

Nothing. Pops back to command line

Code:
emerge dhcpcd

Lots... It emerges and finishes without problems.

Code:
ifconfig -a

Lots!! 1 screen actually. I cant see the first line but I can assume it is about eth0.
Quote:
(beginning on 2nd line)
BROADCAST MULITICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX Packetst:0 errors:0: dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX Packetst:0 errors:0: dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
Collisions:0 txquelen:1000
RX bytes: 0 (0.0 b) TX Bytes:0 (0,0 b)

eth1
Link encap: Ethernet HWaddr: 00:20:E0:8a:78:5d
BROADCAST MULITICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX Packetst:0 errors:0: dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX Packetst:0 errors:0: dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
Collisions:0 txquelen:1000
RX bytes: 0 (0.0 b) TX Bytes:0 (0,0 b)
Interrupt: 11 momory: ec0000000-ec000FFF

eth2
Link encap: Ethernet HWaddr: 00:20:E0:8a:78:5d
BROADCAST MULITICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX Packetst:0 errors:0: dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX Packetst:0 errors:0: dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
Collisions:0 txquelen:1000
RX bytes: 0 (0.0 b) TX Bytes:0 (0,0 b)

Lo
eth1
Link encap: local loopback
inet addr: 127.0.0.1 mask 255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX Packetst:224 errors:0: dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX Packetst:224 errors:0: dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
Collisions:0 txquelen:0
RX bytes: 18608 (18.1 b) TX Bytes:18608 (18,1 b)


Please tell me that was necceesary...

Anyways. I would like to note that when installing, I was offline. So I skipped several points where they were telling me to setup the network. [/quote][/b]
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Please tell me that was necceesary...

If you typed all that manually, then .... 8O not really! And you seem to be missing the lines concerning eth0, which would have been the most informative... Sheesh, this is where a KNOPPIX cd from http://www.knoppix.org would come in handy....it lets you chroot into your gentoo installation and copy paste that kind of stuff!

Oh well... at least I can see you have an eth0, 1, and 2.

If "dhcpcd eth0" exits without errors, then eth0 has automatically received an IP and you should be able to test your internet connection with various ping commands :
Code:
pint -c 3 www.google.com
ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com

Assuming those work, you should be able to
Code:
emerge kde-meta    # Note: this will take a VERY long time, possibly all day.

...and follow the KDE Guide linked earlier.

If eth0 doesn't work, try eth1 and eth2. It seems you have three network interfaces, or things that Linux thinks are network inerfaces... (maybe one is firewire; I know Windows does that at least...)

For ethX (where X is 0,1, or 2..whichever works) to automatically start at boot (to avoid the need to run dhcpcd ethX every time you restart your computer) you should first make the corresponding symlinks to net.lo :
Code:
cd /etc/init.d
rm net.eth0 net.eth1 net.eth2
ln -s net.lo net.eth0
ln -s net.lo net.eth1
ln -s net.lo net.eth2

And then :
Code:
rc-update add net.ethX default    # again, replacing X with 0, 1, or 2

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aaaaah!! I cant belive it!! Its downloading something!! woohaa!!

Thank you so much!

Now i wonder how long this will take. Im at the schools internett connection and will like to go home and eat something SOON :D hehehe....

:lol:

Will probably be back soon. But thanks again for now.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janicz wrote:
Aaaaah!! I cant belive it!! Its downloading something!! woohaa!!

Thank you so much!

Now i wonder how long this will take.

Compiling KDE can sometimes take all day, depending on the speed of your computer. In the future when new versions of KDE are released, I suggest letting them run overnight while you are sleeping :)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay. So these mistakes come in series... 8)

I have no way of leaving the computer at school for a night...

So I guess I have to abort the installation and restart it again some other day...

By the way, its a IBM Thinkpad T23... 1.13 ghz, 256mb ram, 40gb HD. :?

Cya all.
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