Lilo/ Grub Issue

renegade34237 · n00b Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 25

Not sure what I am doing wrong, at this point, but .........

I prefer to use LILO, but have attempted GRUB, am losing what little sanity I have left.

Under LILO, the preferred boot loader, IMHO

Prompt............command not found
lba32................command not found
read-only..........command not found.
/sbin/lilo............no such file or directory

...............................help?

Assistance? (please?)

TIA

meekrob · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 1:28 am Post subject: emerge lilo

Have you tried emerging lilo? It's not there until you do:

renegade34237 · n00b Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 25

Have been there and "done that" with the install doc., not saying I haven't missed something, but, the -p in the following

emerge -p lilo, is new to me.

now I am getting:

[ebuild R ] sys-apps/lilo-22.3.3-rl

do you mind "stepping me through this one"

I am all ears....oops, eyes!

Thanks!

Yeric · Apprentice Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 150

A Silly question maybe, but you did emerge lilo first ?

Lilo is not installed unless you emerge it

Grub

I prefer to do this to a floppy

follow install instructions to make grub floppy disk

then

mount floppy

cp /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz /mnt/floppy/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

then do
ln -s /mnt/floppy/boot/grub/grub.conf /mnt/floppy/boot/grub/menu.lst

then suppose /boot is on hda

default 0
timeout 60
splashimage=(fd0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=<put what you want here for linux>
root (hd0,<whatever /boot partition is -1>
e.g /boot is hda2

above = (hd0,1)
kernel (hd0,1)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda<whatever your / partition is>

e.g / is on hda3 so above would be hda3

if you want widows aswell

and it is on hda5 then you would do this

title=widows
root (hd0,0)
chainloder (hd0,0)+1

hope this helps

renegade34237 · n00b Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 25

Thanks Yeric......

I do want windows as well............let me give that a try, am kinda partial to LILO, seems I have never had ANY problem with it in the past.

Always a first time, wish it wasn't NOW

Thanks,

renegade

Yeric · Apprentice Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 150

meekrob · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 1:53 am Post subject: emerge -p

The -p stands for pretend. Always run emerge -p before you emerge something as it shows you exactly what it is about to emerge.

renegade34237 · n00b Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 25

ok...ok

I have GRUB "snowed". (meaning I have something right........whew!)

Question:

For /boot/grub/brub.conf, as per the install instructions, do those values for need ANY modification, or do I use those given as "gospel"?

Thought I had better ask.........it has been a long day!

TIA

cbreaker · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 8:52 am Post subject:

Good to see you're giving grub a chance. It's so much nicer then Lilo in so many ways. One of the nice things about grub is that you don't have to update it every time you install a new kernel. (well, that is if you're replacing your old bzImage file with a new one. Otherwise, you just need to make a new entry in grub.conf)

You need to update grub.conf to suit your system. For the most part, if you are booting off the first hard disk and installing grub onto a little boot partition, you can pretty much just follow the gentoo installation instructions.

There's a discontinuity with the sample grub.conf in the gentoo installation doc though. The entire document has /boot is a seperate partition, yet the example grub.conf shows /boot as a normal directory off of your root partition. You need to remove the /boot from the paths if using a seperate /boot partition. This is mentioned in a Note below the sample but it's still confusing.

Also, like it says in the docs, make a symlink to menu.lst from grub.conf to ensure everything works properly.

I've had very good luck with grub, it boots anything.

ravenq · Apprentice Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 161

This may be off topic, but apart from not having to rerun grub if you have a new kernel, what are the advantages of it?
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Yeric · Apprentice Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 150

cbreaker · Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 1:12 am Post subject:

renegade34237 · n00b Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 25

Now, this is my problem........

Thanks all for your help (earlier)

I have this:

hda 1 is BOOT
hda 3 is SWAP
hda 4 is ROOT
hda 5 is XP,

grub> root (hd0,0) My Boot Partition
grub> setup (hd0) Where My Boot Record is Installed

Grub.conf for GRUB:

default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=My example Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda3

Dual-boot for XP:

title=Windows XP
root (hd0,5)
chainloader (hd0,5)+1 (I have NO IDEA about this, pulled it outta my a**, I guess

I have gotten my self so confused at this point!

Upon system boot:

Gentoo: root (0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/had4

Error 15: File not found

XP: root (hd0,5)

Error 22: No such partition.

Anyone willing to assist, I would really appreciate it, I have come this far in 5 attempts. Letting me have Gentoo at this point....would enable someone else to monopolize the forum for a change. LMAO

Renegade.

cyrillic · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 1:43 am Post subject:

From a GRUB prompt :

flying_monkey · n00b Joined: 22 Jul 2002 Posts: 33 Location: New Jersey

That's strange. I was all set to chastise cbreaker for not performing the step in the instructions where you creat a symbolic link from /boot to itself
cd /boot
ln -s /boot . (or something like that)

But, when I went to the instructions to find the exact paragraph where the instruction was, I couldn't find it. Was it removed? Because without that, then the sample grub.conf file won't work. One of you experts should get this part of the instructions right and fix it on the main web site.

And, renegade34237, about 6 lines down in the grub.conf file you posted below, the one that begins with kernel, you refer to /dev/hda3. If what you said in the beginning of your post is correct, that should be /dev/hda4.

Hope this helps,
Ed
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ceuric01 · n00b Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 8 Location: West Virginia

I am having a similar problem configuring grub.

My Hard Drive is partitioned as follows listed in order:

hda1=boot .....ext3
hda2=/ .....ReiserFS
hda4=home .....ReiserFS
hda3=swap ......swap

At the grub prompt I type:

undrwater · Guru Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 312 Location: Caucasia

Hi!
Are you making that link from grub.conf to menu.lst? (that lst with an "L") :wink:

I have a different grub problem.

hda 1,2,3 are win2k partitions
hdc 1,5,6 are gentoo partitions

grub boots gentoo fine, but when win2k is selected from the menu, screen blanks and grub screen reappears!
grub.conf looks like this for win2k:

renegade34237 · n00b Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 25

I scrapped my last install 'cause I didn't know wnough about going in and correcting the problem with re-installing XP & Gentoo.

I am back tonight with a question:

When establishing the grub.conf There exista a note that reads:

Note: The path to the kernel image is relative to the boot partition. If for example you have seperate boot partition and root partition, all paths in the grub.conf become /bxImage.

(?)..................This is what I have (again)

XP/hda1 (primary)

BOOT/hda2 (primary)

SWAP/hda5 (logical)

ROOT/hda6 (logical)

Please...with some consensus: instruct me on how to Config Grub & Grub Conf. File

I know this is taking the slackers way out, but damn if I can understand this.

grub> root (X,X) Is the designation of my BOOT partition (?)
grub> setup (hdX) Is where the BOOT record is installed. ( I would think BOOT was installed in BOOT, on my system that would be (0,1) Right/wrong?

What would be the location of the splashimage on my system, to complete :

splashimage=(hdX,X)/boot/splash.xpm.gz (?)

HELP!!!!

TIA,

renegade

cyrillic · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 12:52 am Post subject:

renegade, this should start you off in the right direction :

renegade34237 · n00b Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 25

Cryllic.......

Most excellent, appreciate your help!

However, without sounding too spoiled, XP booted fine, geez, I haven't seen THAT in awhile!

But, Gentoo did not boot, could you please take another look at it for me? Either I have success with this install, or I am , not happy, with re-installing redhat with all it's dependencies.

If I happen not to hear from you, your support was very appreciated.

Renegade

renegade34237 · n00b Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 25

Ooops...that was an error 15, btw.

File not found.

Thanks again.

cyrillic · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 1:25 am Post subject:

Is your kernel (bzImage) in the correct location ?
It should be /bzImage on your BOOT partition.
Viewed from your ROOT partition, it would appear as /boot/bzImage when your BOOT partition is mounted.

btw. grub can boot your kernel from anywhere you put it, you just have to tell grub where to find it.

renegade34237 · n00b Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 25

I am sorry,

But I do not have the savy to even answer that question.

I followed the install instructions, I can only imagine it would be where "it is supposed to be"

(Feeling like a heel 'bout now)

Renegade

Thanks guy.............................

cyrillic · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 1:47 am Post subject:

You can always re-copy your kernel to the location of your choice :

renegade34237 · n00b Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 25

So, I am assuming that I reboot with the install CD

Do as you instructed above, and

try to boot Gentoo again?

Think that should do it?

Renegade