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alienhazard
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:33 am    Post subject: kernel 2.5.6x and xf86 4.3 Reply with quote

hey, i have been having problems getting sound to work, and some1 said something about the 2.5 kernel having it built in or something. i tried googling to find out more, but to no avail. i was wondering if someone could point to (or give me) a description of the features in 2.5 and how stable it is, compatibility, and anything else i would need/should know if i were to try out the 2.5.6x kernel.

i also say that xf86 4.3 was released ago. i was wondering about similar things about it: what are the new features, stability, compatibilty issues, and anything else i should know before installing it (or if i even should install it).

thx in advance
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: kernel 2.5.6x and xf86 4.3 Reply with quote

I would only run either if you really do need something that only those versions support.

2.5 kernels are mainly for developers (ie. if you want to write a driver or improve a kernel subsystem).
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there an idea when 2.6 will be released, or is it "when its done"? id still like to know the answers to the stuff i asked tho.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.kernel.org/

Read the changelogs for details of changes.

http://www.kerneltrap.org

Information on recent developments etc...

Latest stable kernel is 2.4.20, Anything 2.5 is quite simply unstable, it might work great or it might fail miserably losing all your work. Generally there's not much in there that the average user will need.

Given that I get minor problems with 2.4 (IDE DMA probs) I wouldn't think of running 2.5 myself. But you can always download it, compile and try it. Have it as an entry in LILO/Grub. It might however die and trash your hard disk.

Dunno about xfree86, their page is http://www.xfree86.org/

Kernels aready have sound built in, OSS drivers.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Installing Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 6:48 am    Post subject: sound Reply with quote

ya I have been reading on 2.5 not much for the desktop in it. Not like the jump from 2.2 to 2.4. I won't be using for a while.
XFree86-4.3 on the otherhand has some cool features like the ability to change resolutions on the fly, and from what I understand it is still compatable with the older drivers. (I don't know if that includes propriatary stuff like NVidia's)
As for your sound card, It is probably something simple. Like your kernel being installed improperly or an irq conflict or maybey you just need a bios upgrade.
I'm sure someone would help you with that if you are patient enough to try.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.5.47+ has ipsec in the kernel, which can come in handy.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been using the 2.5 kernel for about a week now and it seems to feel better on the desktop than 2.4.20ck3 and gentoo-2.4.20, IMHO. No stababilty issues yet, either. I also noticed that the extreme lag when I compile programs seems to have almost totally disappeared, too. Xfree 4.3 is really nice, too. Cant wait for 5 ^_^
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