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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Konqueror -- Some Questions Reply with quote

I have just installed KDE ad Konqueror. However, it is not how I am used to seeing it. Normally there is a search bar next to the address bar, but it is not here. There is also normally a spell checker which colours words that are spelled incorrectly as I type, but it is not here. Normally if I set my homepage (as I have done) to http://www.google.com when I open Konqueror I will take me there, but this one just takes me off to the start page. What is causing this problems and how can I fix them (as a side note the Gentoo site looks very different from normal I think that I am missing some fonts).
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the searchbar is provided by kde-base/konq-plugins. Can you elaborate on how you installed KDE?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep I did:
emerge kdebase-startkde kicker
(Like the guide told me to!!)
Then did
emerge konsole
and an
emerge konqueror
No idea what is causing these problems but they are very annoying.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have installed the Konqueror plugins and I now have the Google search bar. Spell check still does not work and the font is painfully small (if I increase the size it goes all jagged and looks too big), what is causing this problem, is it me not having the correct font or the designers using fonts which Linux does not have.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evilguru wrote:
I have installed the Konqueror plugins and I now have the Google search bar. Spell check still does not work and the font is painfully small (if I increase the size it goes all jagged and looks too big), what is causing this problem, is it me not having the correct font or the designers using fonts which Linux does not have.

Was kdelibs emerged with the spell USE flag?
Code:
emerge kdelibs -pv

What fonts are set in the Fonts page of Konqueror preferences?
What fonts do you have installed?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I did not emerge with the spell flag, should I add it to my use variable and then re-emerge it?
The fonts do not look too bad with larger sizes. Does Linux support TTF fonts? (I have a good mind to copy a few over from my mac/windows pc's). I guess I just miss fonts like Arial etc (I have been using Linux for a while now but this is the first time that I have used it as a desktop OS). Now, does anyone have a fix for getting Konqueror to open showing http://www.google.com as its main page?
Right, now time to try and get Baghira working.... (It's going to be a long night, but worth it I am sure).
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go to : www.google.com (or any other site as homepage)
settings->save view profile "Web Browsing" (make sure the save url option is enabled, and profile should be Web Browsing, depending on how you ran konqeror, there is a kde panel applet to let you choose a profile to start with)
close konq, open konq.
should work.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evilguru wrote:
No, I did not emerge with the spell flag, should I add it to my use variable and then re-emerge it?

Either add it to the USE variable in /etc/make.conf or just for kdelibs like this:
Code:
echo "kdebase/kdelibs spell" >> /etc/portage/package.use

Evilguru wrote:
The fonts do not look too bad with larger sizes. Does Linux support TTF fonts? (I have a good mind to copy a few over from my mac/windows pc's). I guess I just miss fonts like Arial etc (I have been using Linux for a while now but this is the first time that I have used it as a desktop OS).

What fonts do you have installed and what are the setting for fonts set at in konqueror preferences?
It's probably just a matter that you don't have better fonts installed or that you haven't set which ones to use in konqueror.
Yes, Linux works fine with TTF fonts.
Evilguru wrote:
Now, does anyone have a fix for getting Konqueror to open showing http://www.google.com as its main page?

Start konqueror, go to www.google.com, and then select "Save View Profile" in settings menu.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all so very much for your help.
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Evilguru wrote:
No, I did not emerge with the spell flag, should I add it to my use variable and then re-emerge it?

Either add it to the USE variable in /etc/make.conf or just for kdelibs like this:
Code:
echo "kdebase/kdelibs spell" >> /etc/portage/package.use

Once I have done this then what do I need to do to re-emerge the package, and how long will it take?
One last question, what is the view called when you see all of your devices in Konqueror (hard disks etc). I have seen it before when I have used Knoppix, similar to My Computer in a way.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evilguru wrote:
Once I have done this then what do I need to do to re-emerge the package, and how long will it take?

Code:
emerge kdelibs -pv
emerge kdelibs

The first to make sure spell is enabled, and the second to do it. It will take awhile, but mileage varies depending on your hardware.
You can continue to use your system while it compiles.
Evilguru wrote:
One last question, what is the view called when you see all of your devices in Konqueror (hard disks etc). I have seen it before when I have used Knoppix, similar to My Computer in a way.

try media:/ and/or system:/ in konqueror location bar.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I create a new tab and type in either media:\ or system:\ I get a malformed URL error. If I click on the system icon on my desktop I get a tree-view of my hard disk, but this is not what I want. If I type in media:\ at this view I also get a malformed URL error.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evilguru wrote:
If I create a new tab and type in either media:\ or system:\ I get a malformed URL error. If I click on the system icon on my desktop I get a tree-view of my hard disk, but this is not what I want. If I type in media:\ at this view I also get a malformed URL error.

It is media:/ not media:\
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it is, silly me. I am recompiling it now, do I need to reboot after or will it do itself? I still can not get the font sizes right, if I make the font size bigger it is too big. I am not sure what to do but i suspect that it is the these weird fonts I have got on here which are causing it. Does anyone know how I can get my nice normal fonts back (arial, verdana etc) as maybe they look bigger at the same sizes.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evilguru wrote:
So it is, silly me. I am recompiling it now, do I need to reboot after or will it do itself?

Log out and then log back in should be sufficient.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a quick google and based off of the results did this:
Code:

emerge ttf-bitstream-vera
emerge corefonts

Which based off of the emerge output seems to have installed the fonts somewhere. But, how do I use them? Or did I do something wrong.
I know that these questions must seem very stupid to you lot, so sorry if you have been asked them before.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evilguru wrote:
I did a quick google and based off of the results did this:
Code:

emerge ttf-bitstream-vera
emerge corefonts

Which based off of the emerge output seems to have installed the fonts somewhere. But, how do I use them? Or did I do something wrong.
I know that these questions must seem very stupid to you lot, so sorry if you have been asked them before.

Depends on if you are using a font server or not, you will have to post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
If no, make sure your files section has the following:
Code:
FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/"
FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/corefonts/"

and restart the Xserver. (CTRL-ALT-Backspace)

They should appear in the fonts preferences panel now.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what the files section of my Xorg.conf file looks like (I copied it from a ubuntu live cd, as I am too darn stupid to do it myself):
Code:

Section "Files"
   FontPath   "unix/:7100"         # local font server
   # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
        # paths to defoma fonts
   FontPath   "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
   FontPath   "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
EndSection

So, all I need to do is add the extra two lines and then I will be able to use the extra fonts. Thanks I will do that when kdelib has finished emerging. Just to make sure that it is not just me does anyone else think that the font sizes in KDE apps a very small?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evilguru wrote:
This is what the files section of my Xorg.conf file looks like (I copied it from a ubuntu live cd, as I am too darn stupid to do it myself):
Code:

Section "Files"
   FontPath   "unix/:7100"         # local font server
   # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
   FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
        # paths to defoma fonts
   FontPath   "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
   FontPath   "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
EndSection

So, all I need to do is add the extra two lines and then I will be able to use the extra fonts. Thanks I will do that when kdelib has finished emerging. Just to make sure that it is not just me does anyone else think that the font sizes in KDE apps a very small?

You can comment out
Code:
FontPath   "unix/:7100"         # local font server

That is the font server, if you manually list the font paths, you don't need the font server, and vice-versa.

The font sizes are fine for me and always have been.
Once you are done, post what you have set in the konqueror font preferences for each type and we'll see if they are OK.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recompiling KDE libs with the spelling option has made no difference, I did it, once it had finsihed I closed X and rebooted and it is still not working, I have fiddled around the with spelling options bu they do not seem to make a different. What should I do, I can not live without a decent spell checker (I had it in the Debian version of KDE).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Konqueror what are your settings in 'Settings -> Configure Spell Checking'?

Mine are...
Code:

The two check boxes unchecked.
Dictionary: English [British]
Encoding: US-ASCII
Client: International Ispell


Assuming yours is set to Ispell what is the output of
Code:

# emerge -pv ispell

?

HTH,
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did an emerge aspell-it and then changed my dictionary in konqueror to aspell but it does not seem to have made a difference.
Now, this is the result of emerge -pv ispell
Code:

genware freddie # emerge -pv ispell

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/miscfiles-1.4.2  -minimal 1,489 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/ispell-3.2.06-r6  575 kB

Total size of downloads: 2,064 kB
genware freddie #           
#
I am sure that there has to be a way to get this working and I will keep at it until it is working.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have ispell installed and it works great for me, might be worth a shot.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all very much for your help, now whenever I spell a word wrong it is highlighted red, ispell is what I needed all along, now all I need to find out about it graphical logins and how they work.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have installed the extra fonts and they are all there. However, I have one last problem, and it is an odd one. When viewing posts on this forum the letter 'k' looks odd. The right 'side' of the letter looks blurred and and smudged and it is lighter. Now, I can take a screen shot of it if someone will tell me how to show you. If I type text into a text area the 'k' looks fine.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evilguru wrote:
I have installed the extra fonts and they are all there. However, I have one last problem, and it is an odd one. When viewing posts on this forum the letter 'k' looks odd. The right 'side' of the letter looks blurred and and smudged and it is lighter. Now, I can take a screen shot of it if someone will tell me how to show you. If I type text into a text area the 'k' looks fine.

Do you have anti-aliasing turned on in the fonts section of kcontrol?
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