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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:48 am    Post subject: installazione KDE e cambiamento flag USE Reply with quote

Ciao,
ho sempre avuto installato GNOME, adesso voglio installare KDE ho gia scaricato gli ebuil di kde-meta.
Ho tolgo da make.conf -kde -qt e adesso mi chiedevo se dare un emerge update deep newuse world adesso oppure dopo KDE. Farei questa mossa per compilare con il supporto per KDE gli ebuild gia installati. per la cronaca in fondo trovare il risultato di: emerge update deep newuse world -p

A farlo dopo KDE ho il timore che mi ricompili anche tutto il kde-meta...
Non sono sicuro e visto che domani a quest'ora vorrei potere usare il PC :-) chiedo consiglio a voi.
Grazie delle dritte,
Enrico


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These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies  .....  ...done!

[ebuild     U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.12-r3 [1.3.12-r2] 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5-r2 [2.3.5-r1] -build -erandom -glibc-compat20 -glibc-omitfp -hardened -linuxthreads-tls (-multilib) +nls -nptl -nptlonly +pic -profile (-selinux) -userlocales 24 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r2 [4.8-r1] -build +nls -static 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.11 [2.07] +nls 1,669 kB
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/grep-2.5.1-r8  -build +nls +pcre* -static 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e-r2 [0.9.7e-r1] -bindist -emacs -test +zlib 5,105 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] dev-lang/python-2.4.2  +X +berkdb -bootstrap -build -doc +gdbm +ipv6 +ncurses -nocxx +readline +ssl -tcltk -ucs2 7,669 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.22-r3 [2.0.51.22-r2] -build (-selinux) 251 kB
*** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
    recalculate dependencies, and complete the merge.
[ebuild     U ] sys-fs/udev-070-r1 [068-r1] (-selinux) -static 429 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r2  -build -doc -symlink (-ultra1) 38,409 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10_rc3 [1.0.9b] 2,140 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc3 [1.0.9] -doc -jack 689 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.10_rc3 [1.0.9a] +nls 966 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-devel/libtool-1.5.20 [1.5.18-r1] 2,723 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/netpbm-10.29 [10.28] +jpeg +png -svga +tiff +zlib 2,304 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-libs/pam-0.78-r3 [0.78-r2] +berkdb -nis -pam_chroot -pam_console -pam_timestamp -pwdb (-selinux) 6,345 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.7-r4 [4.0.7-r3] +nls -nousuid +pam (-selinux) -skey 995 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r [2.12q-r3] +crypt +nls -old-crypt +pam +perl (-selinux) -static 2,109 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.22 [2.6.20-r2] -debug -doc +ipv6 +python +readline -static 3,328 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.10-r1 [2.6.8] -doc +jpeg +tiff 11,255 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.22-r4 [4.22-r2] +gnome -insecure-savers +jpeg -kerberos -krb4 -new-login +nls -offensive +opengl +pam -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.6 [0.8.5] -debug -static 342 kB
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3 [2.12.2] -debug -doc +ssl -static 662 kB
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1 [2.10.0] -debug -doc -static 1,326 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-lang/ruby-1.8.3 [1.8.2-r2] -cjk -doc -socks5 -tcltk -threads 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.15 [1.1.14-r2] +crypt -debug +python -static 1,780 kB
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23-r3  +X -debug +gtk +python +qt* +xml2 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2 [2.10.1-r1] -debug -doc -gnutls +hal* -howl +ipv6 +samba +ssl 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1 [2.10.0] +X -debug -doc -static 863 kB
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.4 [0.4.3] -debug -static 367 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.6.5 [2.6.4-r2] -accessibility -debug -static 466 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-office/dia-0.94-r3 [0.94-r2] -debug +gnome +png +python -static +zlib 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-ruby/rubygems-0.8.11 [0.8.10] -examples 156 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-ruby/activesupport-1.1.1-r2 [1.1.1-r1] -examples 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] www-client/links-2.1_pre18 [2.1_pre17-r1] +X -directfb -fbcon +gpm -javascript +jpeg -livecd +png +ssl -svga +tiff -unicode 5,320 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-office/abiword-2.2.11 [2.2.10] -debug +gnome +jpeg +spell +xml2 23,390 kB
[ebuild   R   ] net-www/apache-2.0.54-r31  +apache2* -debug -doc -ldap -mpm-leader -mpm-peruser -mpm-prefork -mpm-threadpool -mpm-worker -no-suexec (-selinux) +ssl -static-modules -threads 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1 [1.6.8] -hardened (-selinux) -static +tcpd 374 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/wget-1.10.2 [1.9.1-r5] -build -debug +ipv6 +nls -socks5 +ssl -static 1,189 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/giflib-4.1.4 [4.1.3] +X -rle 591 kB
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2  -doc +kde* +nls 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-r5 [0.22.0-r3] +X -doc -mmx 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/openssh-4.2_p1 [3.9_p1-r3] -X509 -chroot -hpn +ipv6 -kerberos -ldap -libedit +pam (-selinux) -sftplogging -skey -smartcard -static +tcpd 892 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/sudo-1.6.8_p9-r2 [1.6.8_p9] -ldap -offensive +pam (-selinux) -skey 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-arch/tar-1.15.1  -build +bzip2* +nls -static 1,573 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/curl-7.15.0 [7.13.2] -ares -gnutls +idn* +ipv6 -kerberos -krb4 -ldap +ssl -test 1,393 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/gimp-2.2.8-r1  -aalib (-altivec) -debug -doc -gimpprint -gtkhtml -hardened +jpeg +lcms* -mmx +mng* +png +python -smp -sse -svg +tiff -wmf 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-libs/libsoup-2.2.6.1 [2.2.3-r1] -debug -doc +ssl -static 420 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-gfx/xloadimage-4.1-r4 [4.1-r3] +jpeg +png +tiff 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.1  +X +bzip2* -caps +curl -ecc -idea -ldap +nls +readline (-selinux) -smartcard +zlib 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.10.1-r1  -debug +hal* +ipv6 2,001 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/IO-Zlib-1.01  4 kB
[ebuild  N    ] perl-core/Test-Harness-2.42  58 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/IO-String-1.05  6 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/Archive-Tar-1.26  34 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/Crypt-SSLeay-0.51  114 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/libnet-1.19  63 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/URI-1.35  93 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.800  +ssl 223 kB
[ebuild     U ] mail-filter/spamassassin-3.1.0 [3.0.4] +berkdb -doc -mysql +postgres* -qmail -spf -sqlite +ssl -tools 989 kB
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.1  +bzip2* -debug -doc +gnome -static 428 kB
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.10.2  +cdr -debug -dvdr +hal* -static 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.0.1-r4  +X -a52 -aac -aalib +alsa (-altivec) +arts -cle266 -directfb -dvd -dxr3 +esd -fbcon -ffmpeg -flac +gnome -i8x0 +ipv6 -libcaca +mad +mng* +nls -nvidia +opengl +oss +png +samba +sdl -speex -theora -v4l -vcd -vidix +vorbis -win32codecs -xinerama +xv -xvmc 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/totem-1.0.4  -a52 -debug -dvd -flac +gnome -lirc +mad +mpeg +ogg -theora +vorbis -win32codecs +xine* +xv 1,361 kB
[ebuild     U ] gnome-extra/gnome-games-2.10.1-r1 [2.10.1] -artworkextra -debug +guile -howl 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/gnome-volume-manager-1.2.2  -debug 252 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-libs/vte-0.11.15 [0.11.13-r2] -debug -doc +python -static 936 kB
[ebuild     U ] gnome-extra/gcalctool-5.5.42-r2 [5.5.42-r1] -debug 1,047 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-themes/gnome-backgrounds-2.10.2 [2.10.1] -debug 2,211 kB
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-2.10.2  -accessibility +cdr -dvdr +hal* 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-bin-1.0.7 [1.0.6-r3] 10,138 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-editors/vim-core-6.4 [6.3.084] -acl -bash-completion -livecd +nls 4,752 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-editors/vim-6.4 [6.3.084] -acl -bash-completion -cscope +gpm -minimal +nls +perl +python +ruby -vim-with-x 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-text/gtkspell-2.0.11 [2.0.4-r1] -doc 339 kB
[ebuild   R   ] net-misc/neon-0.24.7  +expat* +ssl +zlib 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-util/subversion-1.2.3-r2 [1.2.3-r1] +apache2* -bash-completion +berkdb -emacs +java +nls -nowebdav +perl +python +zlib 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.0-r3 [0.2.0] 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-irc/xchat-2.4.5 [2.4.3] +ipv6 -mmx +nls +perl +python +ssl -tcltk -xchatdccserver -xchatnogtk -xchattext 1,293 kB

Total size of downloads: 153,881 kB


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

teoricamente se modifichi il make.conf adesso kde dovrebbe installarsi correttamente, potrebbero però nascerti dei problemi se una qualche dipendenza richiedesse la flag kde attivata. però in generale dovrebbe essere fattibile in entrambi i casi. e alla fine in ogni caso farei un giro con revdep-rebuild per vedere see si è impapinato qualcosa. se vuoi la mia opinione comunque: io prima farei le dipendenze e poi kde, per una semplice questione logica.
certo che è un bel passo... hai mezzo world li dentro quasi ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scusa ma con che frequenza aggiorni la tua macchina ? ci sono un sacco di pacchetti che devono solo essere aggiornati.
Ti consiglierei di fare un aggiornamento con
Code:
emerge -uD world
o perlomeno postare il pretend o meglio ancora la differenza tra i due pretend così vedi quanto effettivamente andrebbe ricompilato con le nuove USE.

In linea di massima direi che i passi da fare sono:
1)modificare le USE
2)aggiornare il sistema (senza newuse)
3)installare quello che vuoi
4)aggiornare con newuse

In questo modo puoi diminuire il tempo di "fermo" della macchina (non è che non puoi usarla, se hai un altro DE o WM puoi usarli tranquillamente) necessario per gli ultimi due passaggi.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supponiamo che io abbia gia modificato i flag USE.
il mio dubbio é: se io prima faccio emerge update deep world i pacchetti che aggiorno li compila con i nuovi use flag? Se si non conviene dare subito anche il newuse?
Al termine di questo emergo kde ed in teoria tutto quello che c'è gia installato è stato compilato con i flag attualmente settati no?

Questo è il diff tra emerge update deep newuse world ed emerge update deep world

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10d9
< [ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/grep-2.5.1-r8  -build +nls +pcre* -static 0 kB
34d32
< [ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23-r3  +X -debug +gtk +python +qt* +xml2 0 kB
44d41
< [ebuild   R   ] net-www/apache-2.0.54-r31  +apache2* -debug -doc -ldap -mpm-leader -mpm-peruser -mpm-prefork -mpm-threadpool -mpm-worker -no-suexec (-selinux) +ssl -static-modules -threads 0 kB
48d44
< [ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2  -doc +kde* +nls 0 kB
52d47
< [ebuild   R   ] app-arch/tar-1.15.1  -build +bzip2* +nls -static 1,573 kB
54d48
< [ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/gimp-2.2.8-r1  -aalib (-altivec) -debug -doc -gimpprint -gtkhtml -hardened +jpeg +lcms* -mmx +mng* +png +python -smp -sse -svg +tiff -wmf 0 kB
57,58d50
< [ebuild   R   ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.1  +X +bzip2* -caps +curl -ecc -idea -ldap +nls +readline (-selinux) -smartcard +zlib 0 kB
< [ebuild   R   ] gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.10.1-r1  -debug +hal* +ipv6 2,001 kB
68,71d59
< [ebuild   R   ] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.1  +bzip2* -debug -doc +gnome -static 428 kB
< [ebuild   R   ] gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.10.2  +cdr -debug -dvdr +hal* -static 0 kB
< [ebuild   R   ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.0.1-r4  +X -a52 -aac -aalib +alsa (-altivec) +arts -cle266 -directfb -dvd -dxr3 +esd -fbcon -ffmpeg -flac +gnome -i8x0 +ipv6 -libcaca +mad +mng* +nls -nvidia +opengl +oss +png +samba +sdl -speex -theora -v4l -vcd -vidix +vorbis -win32codecs -xinerama +xv -xvmc 0 kB
< [ebuild   R   ] media-video/totem-1.0.4  -a52 -debug -dvd -flac +gnome -lirc +mad +mpeg +ogg -theora +vorbis -win32codecs +xine* +xv 1,361 kB
77d64
< [ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-2.10.2  -accessibility +cdr -dvdr +hal* 0 kB
82d68
< [ebuild   R   ] net-misc/neon-0.24.7  +expat* +ssl +zlib 0 kB
87c73
< Total size of downloads: 153,881 kB
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> Total size of downloads: 148,516 kB

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

semplicemente ti conviene, secondo me, rima modificare il make.conf e poi dare un bel
Code:
# emerge -DuN lista_kde_split_ebuilds_che_vuoi_emergere
e poi controllare con un
Code:
# emerge -DuNpv world
se qualche pacchetto necessita di ricompilazione, anche se non credo sarà necessaria nessuna ricompilazione. Così, in tutti i modi, non dovrai ricompilare niente due volte.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agenteo wrote:
Supponiamo che io abbia gia modificato i flag USE.
il mio dubbio é: ...cut...


semplicemente se leggi l'output che hai postato hai fatto altri cambiamenti di flag,
Code:
sys-apps/grep-2.5.1-r8  +pcre*
sys-apps/dbus-0.23-r3  +qt*
net-www/apache-2.0.54-r31  +apache2*
gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2  +kde*
app-arch/tar-1.15.1 +bzip2*
...

mi sembra un output normale...
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