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wokick
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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:18 pm Post subject: mrxvt rocks |
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So far, it's the best terminal emulater for me. Highly configurable, Multi-tab, Multi-language support, etc. The most important---it's very light, suck little resources.
Try it and u won't regret. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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The size is compelling (smaller source than rxvt) but the tab GUI is kinda ugly.
Also breaks compatibility with rxvt commands 
Don't care for the non-default font either. Removal of pixmap support would be cool (even smaller).
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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@wokick: Yes, it definitely rocks. Best VT so far!
My prefered feature is the XFT antialiased fonts (as rxvt) with a drop shadow (as eterm). It provides the clearest text I've ever read. 
@pjp: Indeed, the tabs are ugly. As I'm far from able to shoot some good pixmap replacement, I've preferred to get rid of them: no menu.
For thus who might need it, here's a sample conf (put that under your ~/.Xdefaults  ): | Code: | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
! MRXVT configuration !
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mrxvt*vt0*saveLines: 1000
mrxvt*initTermNumber: 1
mrxvt*protectSecondary: true
mrxvt*loginShell: true
mrxvt*scrollBar: false
mrxvt*transparent: true
mrxvt*transparentScrollbar: true
mrxvt*transparentTabbar: true
mrxvt*transparentMenubar: true
mrxvt*foreground: white
mrxvt*background: black
mrxvt*backgroundFade: 50
mrxvt*fading: 20
mrxvt*textShadow: black
mrxvt*textShadowMode: botright
mrxvt*tabForeground: white
mrxvt*tabBackground: darkgray
mrxvt*itabForeground: gray
mrxvt*itabBackground: darkgray
mrxvt*tabPixmap: false
mrxvt*syncTabTitle: true
mrxvt*bottomTabbar: true
mrxvt*windowsSwitch: false
mrxvt*showMenu: false
mrxvt*hideButtons: true
mrxvt*xft: true
mrxvt*xftFont: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
mrxvt*xftmFont: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
mrxvt*xftAntialias: true
mrxvt*xftWeight: bold
mrxvt*xftSlant: roman
mrxvt*xftHinting: true
mrxvt*xftAutoHint: true
mrxvt*xftGlobalAdvance: true
mrxvt*xftWidth: normal
mrxvt*xftRGBA: rgb
mrxvt*xftSize: 11
mrxvt*cursorBlink: true
mrxvt*cursorBlinkInterval:500
mrxvt*geometry: 80x25
mrxvt*multichar_encoding:FR
mrxvt*inputMethod: SCIM
mrxvt*cursorColor: yellow
mrxvt*color0: black
mrxvt*color1: #40e0d0
mrxvt*color2: #87cefa
mrxvt*color3: #ffff00
mrxvt*color4: #d1eeee
mrxvt*color5: #eed8ae
mrxvt*color6: #b4eeb4
mrxvt*color7: gray
mrxvt*color8: gray40
mrxvt*color9: #ee6363
mrxvt*color10: #c5f779
mrxvt*color11: #fff796
mrxvt*color12: #00b2ee
mrxvt*color13: #cf9ebe
mrxvt*color14: #71bebe
mrxvt*color15: white |
By the way, if somebody is able to provide new pixmap replacement for the menu, it would be great to share them.
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[UK]Superdude
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Agreed! Is a great term. Was using xterm before, and whilst screen is good I like tabs much better. Being able to switch tabs with SHIFT+arrow is a nice feature IMO.
Agree the tabs are ugly but teh funtionality keeps me there. |
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Athas
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Giving this a shot... though I doubt I'm going to be able to get rid of my xterm-addiction.
EDIT: Guess I won't... crashes at startup:
| Code: | [brainiac]athas>% mrxvt
mrxvt: can't load font "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-140-jisx0208.1983-0"
mrxvt: can't load font "-*-*-*-r-*-*-*-*-*-c-*-jisx0208*-0"
mrxvt: fatal error, aborting... |
My .Xdefaults doesn't contain anything related to mrxvt. Hints?
Oh, and no, I don't have any of those fonts. I don't have anything like "jisx0208."
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| Athas wrote: | Giving this a shot... though I doubt I'm going to be able to get rid of my xterm-addiction.
EDIT: Guess I won't... crashes at startup:
| Code: | [brainiac]athas>% mrxvt
mrxvt: can't load font "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-140-jisx0208.1983-0"
mrxvt: can't load font "-*-*-*-r-*-*-*-*-*-c-*-jisx0208*-0"
mrxvt: fatal error, aborting... |
My .Xdefaults doesn't contain related to mrxvt. Hints?
Oh, and no, I don't have any of those fonts. I don't have anything like "jisx0208." |
I get this too, even when I tried copying the mrxvt related stuff posted earlier in this thread into my .Xdefaults, it just seemed to ignore it.
There is a xgetdefault USE flag that I thought might be relevant, but emerging with it on/off makes no difference.
Also I tried starting it a particular font using the -font option, it gives no errors but still produces the above behaviour, its very annoying, so I'll guess I'll give up on this term for now 
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| Athas wrote: | Giving this a shot... though I doubt I'm going to be able to get rid of my xterm-addiction.
EDIT: Guess I won't... crashes at startup:
| Code: | [brainiac]athas>% mrxvt
mrxvt: can't load font "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-140-jisx0208.1983-0"
mrxvt: can't load font "-*-*-*-r-*-*-*-*-*-c-*-jisx0208*-0"
mrxvt: fatal error, aborting... |
My .Xdefaults doesn't contain related to mrxvt. Hints?
Oh, and no, I don't have any of those fonts. I don't have anything like "jisx0208." |
Yep... same here. No idea what's causing it...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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@rezza, Corky, Athas
 I got almost the same error as you.
| Code: | mrxvt: can't load font "-isas-song ti-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-160-gb2312.1980-0"
mrxvt: can't load font "-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-gb2312*-0"
mrxvt: fatal error, aborting... |
I've fixed it by playing around with the multichar encoding. I assume that MRXVT requires this setting under your Xdefaults. At the beginning, as french, I've put FR for this value. However, as a secound thought, I've replaced it with noenc. | Code: | | mrxvt*multichar_encoding:noenc |
Hope this help.
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rezza
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| pem wrote: | @rezza, Corky, Athas
I got almost the same error as you.
| Code: | mrxvt: can't load font "-isas-song ti-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-160-gb2312.1980-0"
mrxvt: can't load font "-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-gb2312*-0"
mrxvt: fatal error, aborting... |
I've fixed it by playing around with the multichar encoding. I assume that MRXVT requires this setting under your Xdefaults. At the beginning, as french, I've put FR for this value. However, as a secound thought, I've replaced it with noenc. | Code: | | mrxvt*multichar_encoding:noenc |
Hope this help. |
Nice catch, that sorted it out. Thanks 
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Duty
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I've been using multi-aterm myself. Seems to have a bug where clicking the mouse starts to spew kanji into the keyboard buffer after it's been running for a few days, but screen makes it easy as pie to restart, so I'm not especially bothered.
Also: Escreen really sucks. Don't bother with it. |
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Corky
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| rezza wrote: | | pem wrote: | @rezza, Corky, Athas
I got almost the same error as you.
| Code: | mrxvt: can't load font "-isas-song ti-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-160-gb2312.1980-0"
mrxvt: can't load font "-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-gb2312*-0"
mrxvt: fatal error, aborting... |
I've fixed it by playing around with the multichar encoding. I assume that MRXVT requires this setting under your Xdefaults. At the beginning, as french, I've put FR for this value. However, as a secound thought, I've replaced it with noenc. | Code: | | mrxvt*multichar_encoding:noenc |
Hope this help. |
Nice catch, that sorted it out. Thanks |
Sorted for me too , pity its so damn ugly 
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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It personally just annoyed me, so I am sticking with urxvt.  For those of you that care to know why it annoyed me, it was the whole tabs thing and it poorly rendered the fonts compared to urxvt. For example, ~ was replaced with -. |
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rezza
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Pwnz3r wrote: | | It personally just annoyed me, so I am sticking with urxvt. For those of you that care to know why it annoyed me, it was the whole tabs thing and it poorly rendered the fonts compared to urxvt. For example, ~ was replaced with -. |
Yeah, I know what you mean about the font rendering. It was far more configurable than urxvt, but I just couldn't get it looking the way I wanted. Oh, and the tabs are ugly as sin
So bye-bye for now, mrxvt...
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I was using multi-aterm myself. I just did it a try and it's mostly the same except it's actively maintained. By the way thanks Pem for finding the little trick to bypass the font crash. I guess I'll switch to this term thanks for the heads up !
By the way, I can't find any info on urxvt on google and neither in portage ... links anyone ? ^_^
[EDIT] If you don't like the tags use this switch (exerpt from the man page) :
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-trm|+trm
pseudo-transparent menubar background, pseudo-transparency must
be turned on [transparentMenubar]
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The old gray and plain ugly tab bar will be blending in your background. It's pretty neat that way !
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Duty
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Kioshen wrote: | | except it's actively maintained. |
Er... which one? The maintainer of multi-aterm doesn't date his releases so it's hard to check, but the freshmeat entry was last updated on Sep 3, 2004 and a gentoo version bump occured the day after. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Duty wrote: | | Kioshen wrote: | | except it's actively maintained. |
Er... which one? The maintainer of multi-aterm doesn't date his releases so it's hard to check, but the freshmeat entry was last updated on Sep 3, 2004 and a gentoo version bump occured the day after. |
I was talking about multi-aterm. Since I installed it, I never had any update on it. It was over 2 months ago. If you check the change log of mxvt he has done way more updates than multi-aterm. I'm currently thinkering with mxvt but from the look of it i'll probably switch. At least when I add a tab it show it right away. I've always had troubles with the tab management of multi-aterm.
[edit] removed false statement saying that mrxvt was forked of multi-aterm, read too fast the news bit of September 15th on the website of mrxvt.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| Kioshen wrote: |
By the way, I can't find any info on urxvt on google and neither in portage ... links anyone ? ^_^
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Its called rxvt-unicode actually,and its great. |
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Duty
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Well, I tried mrxvt out, but for some reason it won't inherit my .Xdefaults settings. My .Xdefaults looks like this:
| Code: | XTerm.Background: black
XTerm.Foreground: white
XTerm.LoginShell: true
XTerm.ScrollbarRight: true
XTerm.Vt.SaveLines: 32767
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What's wrong here? |
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Kioshen
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Duty wrote: | Well, I tried mrxvt out, but for some reason it won't inherit my .Xdefaults settings. My .Xdefaults looks like this:
| Code: | XTerm.Background: black
XTerm.Foreground: white
XTerm.LoginShell: true
XTerm.ScrollbarRight: true
XTerm.Vt.SaveLines: 32767
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What's wrong here? |
What you are trying to use are classes. But for mrxvt you have to use this format :
| Code: | | mrxvt*options: value |
Here's my section regarding mrxvt if it helps you :
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mrxvt.geometry: 120x50
mrxvt*multichar_encoding:noenc
mrxvt*initTermNumber: 4
mrxvt*vt0*tabTitle:Localhost
mrxvt*vt1*tabTitle:LocalRoot
mrxvt*vt2*tabTitle:xxx
mrxvt*vt3*tabTitle:xxx
#mrxvt*vt0*session:/bin/zsh
mrxvt*vt1*session:su -
mrxvt*vt2*session:ssh xxx@xxx
mrxvt*vt3*session:ssh xxx@xxx
mrxvt*syncTabTitle:true
mrxvt*transparent:true
mrxvt*transparentScrollbar:true
mrxvt*transparentTabbar:true
mrxvt*transparentMenubar:true
mrxvt*foreground:White
mrxvt*background:Black
mrxvt*backgroundFade:60
mrxvt*font:-*-bitstream vera sans-medium-*-normal-*-0-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
mrxvt*boldfont:-*-bitstream vera sans-bold-*-normal-*-0-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
mrxvt*loginshell:true
mrxvt*savelines:32767
mrxvt*scrollBar_right:true
mrxvt*itabForeground:grey
mrxvt*tabForeground:white
mrxvt*hideButtons:true |
The font lines are not finished yet, there have too much space in between but you should get the idea nevertheless.
Cheers !
Kio
[EDIT] Added my conf to the mix [/EDIT]
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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@Duty and Kioshen
You can also set the XFT fonts library to handle your fonts. It's anti-aliased and it's able to cast a shadow that stress better the text out
| Code: | mrxvt*xft: true
mrxvt*xftFont: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
mrxvt*xftmFont: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
mrxvt*xftAntialias: true
mrxvt*xftWeight: bold
mrxvt*xftSlant: roman
mrxvt*textShadow: black
mrxvt*textShadowMode: botright |
To have an idea of the result, just have a look here.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Pem but I already knew about it. But since there was a big fat warning the faqs about how much slower there were I didn't bother with it. Maybe I should bench them before. The only thing I wanted was a lightweight multi-tab terminal emulater replacement for konsole.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| pem wrote: | @Duty and Kioshen
You can also set the XFT fonts library to handle your fonts. It's anti-aliased and it's able to cast a shadow that stress better the text out
| Code: | mrxvt*xft: true
mrxvt*xftFont: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
mrxvt*xftmFont: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
mrxvt*xftAntialias: true
mrxvt*xftWeight: bold
mrxvt*xftSlant: roman
mrxvt*textShadow: black
mrxvt*textShadowMode: botright |
To have an idea of the result, just have a look here. |
How would you get it not to cast the text shadow? That made the text look fat and it annoyed me. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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@Pwnz3r:
For withdrawing the shadow, comment out the following:
| Code: | !mrxvt*textShadow: black
!mrxvt*textShadowMode: botright |
If you don't want your text to look as fat as mine  , you can also replace the weight of the XFT font:
| Code: | | mrxvt*xftWeight: normal |
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| pem: I did that but the font rendering was still screwed up compared to how nicely it is done by urxvt. Basically, it was crammed together and ~ still was rendered as -. |
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