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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:57 pm    Post subject: Problme accessing the forum Reply with quote

Weird problem. Maybe Firewall Rulez on gentoo forums...

I can access the forum from work, but from home I can only ping the IP, and I cannot connect to port 80...

so I dont have access from *videotron.ca hosts...

cna anyone confirm this ?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: Problme accessing the forum Reply with quote

Synoptic wrote:
Weird problem. Maybe Firewall Rulez on gentoo forums...

I can access the forum from work, but from home I can only ping the IP, and I cannot connect to port 80...

so I dont have access from *videotron.ca hosts...

cna anyone confirm this ?


There should be no problems accessing the Forums from any domains.

Personally I'm accessing it now from behind a very restrictive firewall at work and have done so all the time.

I would be interesting to see the result of a traceroute:
traceroute forums.gentoo.org

This will show all the steps taken from your machine via the various routers to forums.gentoo.org along with the time each step takes.

Post it here and we'll take a look at it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been some other reports of problems accessing the forums from Eastern Canada. Perhaps there is a misconfigured router somewhere.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I have posted another thread for this exact same problem i'm having for nearly 2 weeks now. Can't access from home and neither form the university. Now I have found a way using a public proxy anonymizer, but it's a pain since I must bypass the cache and filter proxies.

There is a traceroute in that thread. I notice there is a non-routable IP showing up. Can it be the problem.

Hope it can be fixed somehow. 2 weeks is loooong.

ADDENDUM:

To be torought, I also included a traceroute from the university. So this makes up for 3 differents hosts (Videotron.ca, vif.com and uqam.ca) that can't reach the forum.
Code:

[e363010@lnx ~]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute forums.gentoo.org
traceroute to forums.gentoo.org (66.250.107.251), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  132.208.132.240 (132.208.132.240)  0.954 ms  0.794 ms  0.714 ms
 2  132.208.6.25 (132.208.6.25)  0.711 ms  0.513 ms  0.680 ms
 3  132.208.254.241 (132.208.254.241)  1.546 ms  1.479 ms  2.150 ms
 4  dmtrl-uq-uqam.risq.net (206.167.112.25)  1.270 ms  0.837 ms  0.828 ms
 5  uqam-internet.dmtrl-uq.risq.net (132.202.60.161)  127.147 ms  55.045 ms  199.049 ms
 6  amtrl-uq.risq.net (132.202.80.17)  1.196 ms  1.032 ms  0.849 ms
 7  imtrl-uq.risq.net (132.202.200.21)  1.119 ms  0.886 ms  0.795 ms
 8  142.169.254.37 (142.169.254.37)  1.393 ms  1.188 ms  0.946 ms
 9  mtlxpqvvbr00.bb.telus.com (154.11.7.2)  19.578 ms  19.546 ms  19.876 ms
10  nycpnyykgr00.bb.telus.com (154.11.11.133)  19.473 ms  19.332 ms  19.212 ms
11  154.13.64.17 (154.13.64.17)  19.968 ms  19.465 ms  19.574 ms
12  p5-0.br01.jfk01.atlas.psi.net (154.54.1.197)  20.076 ms  19.572 ms  20.327 ms
13  g7.ba21.b001353-0.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.13.206)  23.101 ms  20.464 ms  20.141 ms
14  * * *
do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: expiration du délai de la minuterie
15  66.250.107.251 (66.250.107.251)  19.797 ms  20.386 ms  17.998 ms


(Notice that hop 14 times out from this network).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2003 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

man.. I have been having the same problem and I'm in mtl too..
I thought that maybe the address I got was band since I could access the site from work and every other of my friends here in mtl could access the site. I tried many things to get it to work this morning and it wouldn't work.. drove me crazy.. I thought it was maybe that I upgraded a package "mozilla" and something that forums.gentoo.org needs was fucked in mozilla.. so I booted with a knoppix.. still no go.. I did a "reset to factory default" on my cable modem.. waited for the network to come back.. got a new IP.. still no go.. I have been trying randomly all day. Now I just got it? no clue why it works and how long it will work..
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlg wrote:
... Now I just got it?


Woohoo!!! Me too :D

It's been like 2 or close to 3 weeks I could not access.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahhh finally i can reach the forums:)
couldnt for nearly a week and a half...and even though im not sure if i should blame them... *BLAMES VIDEOTRON*
(mmm blaming videotron)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lockup wrote:
...im not sure if i should blame them... *BLAMES VIDEOTRON*


I'm sure Videotron has nothing to do with this.

- My ISP is vif.ca, an adsl provider.
- My university is connected thrue risq.net(?)
- From neither of them I could reach the forum.
- It was the only site unreachable (at least, of those I surfed to during that period).

So, chances are that it is (like Rac said) probably a misconfigured router near gentoo's side.

Nightmare is over :D
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is starting to get really anoying.

This morning:
Code:
[Linux] traceroute forums.gentoo.org
traceroute to forums.gentoo.org (66.250.107.251), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  ip216-239-80-2.vif.net (216.239.80.2)  17.11 ms  19.692 ms  21.649 ms
 2  ip216-239-80-254.vif.net (216.239.80.254)  15.013 ms  33.669 ms  16.236 ms
 3  946.GigabitEthernet5-0.gw1.mtl2.alter.net (205.205.38.213)  18.665 ms  32.892 ms  71.087 ms
 4  105.at-6-0-0.XR1.MTL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.130.66)  19.186 ms  16.466 ms  16.201 ms
 5  0.so-0-0-0.XL1.MTL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.133.45)  75.828 ms  60.286 ms  14.724 ms
 6  0.so-0-0-0.TL1.MTL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.133.66)  16.723 ms  15.707 ms  17.979 ms
 7  0.so-5-3-0.TL1.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.21)  30.473 ms  30.071 ms  31.466 ms
 8  0.so-6-0-0.XL1.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.70)  31.297 ms  31.322 ms  32.494 ms
 9  POS6-0.BR2.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.133)  41.048 ms  32.899 ms  60.868 ms
10  154.13.66.17 (154.13.66.17)  34.178 ms  32.594 ms  30.994 ms
11  p13-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.61)  63.533 ms  69.141 ms  30.227 ms
12  p6-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.82)  32.484 ms  106.681 ms  33.41 ms
13  p15-0.core01.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.9)  33.708 ms  33.954 ms  74.841 ms
14  g7.ba21.b001353-0.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.13.206)  31.224 ms  74.064 ms  33.403 ms
15  Pilosoft.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.1.42)  33.264 ms  36.737 ms  32.977 ms
16  forums.gentoo.org (66.250.107.251)  102.944 ms  104.138 ms  31.217 ms


And now...
Code:
[Linux] traceroute forums.gentoo.org
traceroute to forums.gentoo.org (66.250.107.251), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  ip216-239-80-2.vif.net (216.239.80.2)  17.359 ms  18.725 ms  16.849 ms
 2  ip216-239-80-254.vif.net (216.239.80.254)  25.601 ms  18.115 ms  21.537 ms
 3  946.GigabitEthernet5-0.gw1.mtl2.alter.net (205.205.38.213)  16.886 ms  22.443 ms  19.711 ms
 4  105.at-6-0-0.XR1.MTL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.130.66)  17.702 ms  16.838 ms  17.344 ms
 5  0.so-0-0-0.XL1.MTL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.133.45)  21.873 ms  19.098 ms  16.775 ms
 6  0.so-0-0-0.TL1.MTL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.133.66)  17.02 ms  19.136 ms  17.314 ms
 7  0.so-5-3-0.TL1.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.21)  34.316 ms  37.123 ms  30.842 ms
 8  0.so-6-0-0.XL1.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.70)  30.846 ms  32.762 ms  33.351 ms
 9  POS6-0.BR2.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.133)  33.49 ms  32.29 ms  33.18 ms
10  154.13.66.17 (154.13.66.17)  34.044 ms  32.002 ms  34.369 ms
11  p13-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.61)  33.777 ms  33.096 ms  33.13 ms
12  p6-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.82)  41.434 ms  37.181 ms  33.34 ms
13  p15-0.core01.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.9)  35.849 ms  40.994 ms  38.068 ms
14  g7.ba21.b001353-0.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.13.206)  39.43 ms  32.763 ms  36.867 ms
15  10.1.15.106 (10.1.15.106)  35.351 ms  35.433 ms  36.661 ms
16  forums.gentoo.org (66.250.107.251)  39.961 ms  47.815 ms  35.154 ms


Notice hop 15. A non-routable IP again.

How long this time?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nevermind my exclamation of joy, only college is able to connect to the forums now, my home box(videotron...) still cant....urgh
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

I'm the owner of Pilosoft, colo provider for forums.gentoo.org

10.* (private IPs in network infrastructure) are not the cause of any routing problems.

Issue with transit between Pilosoft and Videotron turned out to be Peer1 (our common transit) causing some breakage, now corrected.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apilosov, thanks so much for hosting the forums server. These forums would be in much worse shape without your generosity. Also glad that the routing issue is fixed.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you :)

Just pointing out that i'm not a videotron client nor is my University, unless they all share a common node on the backbone(?)
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