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Kateikyoushi n00b
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 39
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Portage and this BBS. |
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Doctor Corndog Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 107 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Well, I'm a TOTAL newbie to linux, but I will say this. Gentoo is hard, very hard for me. I have to google for commands on a daily basis, but the forums here are great. There are a lot of experienced people I can ask for help anytime I need it, with no flaming and no "Google it for yourself" responses. I like the whole portage thing, I think it's pretty impressive. When I describe Gentoo to someone who knows nothing about anything other than Wintendo, I mosty mention portage. |
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seank l33t
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 686
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Someone please define "dependency hell" |
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Kateikyoushi n00b
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: |
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I guess they solved the dependency hell but when I start to use linux I switched to FreeBSD because of this dependency misery.
I install a software it needed a few packages which had their own dependencies so it took a while to get all the neceserry packages installed each with their own dependencies. Unfortunately it happened that two applications depended on different versions of a package this is where I had enough. |
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The Mad Crapper Apprentice
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 156
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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the install process
and portage |
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diilbert n00b
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 52
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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sean_micken wrote: | Someone please define "dependency hell" |
If you want to experience it, install a RPM based Linux and then try installing a program not available in their Distro CDs... ie Mandriva Linux.
Therefore making Gentoo a little piece of heaven |
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issiah n00b
Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 11 Location: canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:55 am Post subject: freedom |
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the one thing i most like about gentoo is i can have it my way. i personally like the stage one build simply because i can build everything how i want it the way i want it. now don't get me wrong it an't easy, but who out there wants easy when easy breaks. i feel that you learn more with gentoo than any other OS and you know what to do when things get hairy. you don't just sit around and say "oh well let me try again" no you try and try until you get it right then you got it and once you got it it is all good. think about this, gentoo is the only OS that can port to any OS and you have so many unique kernels and always new. every development is right there at you finger tips. you don't have to wait two to three years for another well i think we got all the bugs out of it this time. the eye candy is there if you want it or not and the speed is most certainly right there. i took windows off my system and my box runs cleaner with gentoo and Linux. the best part is what other system out there can you build your software how you like it on the fly. Issiah _________________ hfaaa488% |
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massysett Apprentice
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 296 Location: Silver Spring, Maryland USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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diilbert wrote: | sean_micken wrote: | Someone please define "dependency hell" |
If you want to experience it, install a RPM based Linux and then try installing a program not available in their Distro CDs... ie Mandriva Linux.
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Seriously though, I have wondered exactly what "dependency hell" is, too. Does it simply mean that when you do "rpm -i foo" rpm tells you that it needs bar, then bar needs fooey, etc? What if I resolve all these by going to three different websites--is that dependency hell?
Or is "dependency hell" something that happens only when package foo needs package bar version 2, and package fooey needs package bar version 3?
I can resolve the first problem, but offhand I don't know how to resolve the second. |
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The Mad Crapper Apprentice
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 156
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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massysett wrote: |
Seriously though, I have wondered exactly what "dependency hell" is, too. Does it simply mean that when you do "rpm -i foo" rpm tells you that it needs bar, then bar needs fooey, etc? What if I resolve all these by going to three different websites--is that dependency hell?
Or is "dependency hell" something that happens only when package foo needs package bar version 2, and package fooey needs package bar version 3?
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Fenster Apprentice
Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 172 Location: Purgatory
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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When the hell did I make this post? O.o _________________ photography - geekery |
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The Mad Crapper Apprentice
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 156
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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"Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:55 pm" =P |
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diilbert n00b
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 52
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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The Mad Crapper wrote: | "Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:55 pm" =P |
LOL raised from the dead |
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The Mad Crapper Apprentice
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, Gentoo (portage) rocks the casbah.
I was reading this paper about debian Linux and how wonderful it was, and how you could build it to be whatever you needed blah blah blah. And i thought i would try it out, but i am just not motivated. I just love Gentoo to much. |
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revertex l33t
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 806
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Sleepless nights trying to figure what a heel goin wrong.
I can't complain, it help me a lot to learn a bit more about linux.
The abscence of dumbass wizzards, i prefer stay in control than point and click.
Needless to say, gentoo docs and the forums support, the comunnity simply ROCKS! |
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The Mad Crapper Apprentice
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 156
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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revertex wrote: | ....
Needless to say, gentoo docs and the forums support, the comunnity simply ROCKS! |
amen |
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MetalGod Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 816 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:49 am Post subject: |
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The Mad Crapper wrote: | the install process
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about the install process the GLI is great and it will be a great improvement for Gentoo. _________________ ex: Gentoo Linux Developer: amd64 media-optical sound gnome
ex: Portuguese Moderator
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diilbert n00b
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:11 am Post subject: |
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MetalGod wrote: | The Mad Crapper wrote: | the install process
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about the install process the GLI is great and it will be a great improvement for Gentoo. |
That is a matter of opinion.
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-421166.html |
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MetalGod Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 816 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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it's not an opinion it's a reality GLI will be a larger step in new horizons (enterprise i.e). If you want to use the old method i'm sure you can use it.
Of course there will be more surprises and new improvements. _________________ ex: Gentoo Linux Developer: amd64 media-optical sound gnome
ex: Portuguese Moderator
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bammbamm808 Guru
Joined: 08 Dec 2002 Posts: 548 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:07 am Post subject: Can't pick just one thing |
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No dependency hell
The forums
The devs/community who make it all work _________________ MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk
Ryzen 3900x
32Gb Samsung B-die (16GB dual rank x2) DDR4 @ 3200MHz, cl14
Geforce RTX 2070S 8GB
Samsung m.2 NVME pcie-3.0
Etc.... |
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karsten_s n00b
Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 33 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: there is no one thing! |
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hmm... I stumbled across this thread and decided it is a good place for my very first Gentoo Forums Post!
Seriously. I bought a new harddrive on Jan 02 and went to installing gentoo that very night. Ever since I've spent countless hours configuring and tweaking and emerging and compiling and just loving this distro. What's probably best is, as many have already said, the awesome community :thumbsup: Thanks to the combined strength of (in order):
* the Gentoo Forums
* the Gentoo Wiki
* Google
I have so far been able to solve every single problem I have come across in the last three weeks. I've also found awesome hints and tips on these Forums, regarding software I wasn't even aware of!
Just so you know, I'm desperately waiting for the end of the semester, so I can migrate my laptop to gentoo, too!
What else I love about gentoo:
* portage
* gentoolkit
* compiling my own kernels (I'm right now doing it for the 11th-or-so-time...)
* finding out about E17
[*]and, as one of my father's colleagues always used to say:
Quote: | Strange, isn't it? Once you do it the right way, things just work |
...and with gentoo, they do.
so, thanks everyone! |
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The Mad Mahdi n00b
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 70 Location: Northumberland, England, UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:02 am Post subject: |
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Portage and the Community are what make Gentoo the best distro out there.
Or indeed, in here! |
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