E17 is coming?? (Part 3)

Ariem · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject:

Hello guys,
after a quite busy time and some well deserved holidays, I'm back!
And so I noticed that I got way behind... let's say that I'm still running a pre-shelf e17 version!! :oops:

Yeah, I know, shame on me..
But it's time to update it, and so here comes my question(s):
- since all as changed, what script are you using now to update your system?

I looked around and found RuiP's script (update_e17) and morlenxus (easy_e17) script. The main difference is that the former uses portage and the latter don't. Also, somehow I had the idea that RuiP mentioned to use the latter script because he could install different vesions of E.. sorry if this is incorrect, it's just some idea I have from posts I read long time ago... any clear thoughts about this?

I always used a script based on portage, so I'd say my best choice is to use RuiP's script, right? To be sure, the version I have is the 0.2.1, that's the latest, right?

Also, since new packages have been added to E, what's the "current" list of packages to install?

Hope you be patient with me...

and let's get enlightened!!

ppurka · Advocate Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256

Ariem · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject:

RuiP · l33t Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 643

Hi Ariem,
the question about update_e17.sh or easy_e17.sh is a question of how do you want e17 on your system, since the scripts do different things.
They both have advantages and down sides.

update_e17 use emerge and e17 ebuilds will build enlightenment mixed with your system (this is not good, imho). You can only build e17 parts that have an ebuild and to the others you have to do it manually (no great problem here, since all important things have ebuilds). The good things you already know about, since you use it.

easy_e17 will build all enlightenment in /opt/e17. So make it more easy to remove, keep an eye on libs, backup and, yes, use several different versions side by side (with different names, linking to the one desired, naming the symlink /opt/e17)

That's why i don't recommend my own script anymore, but morlenxus one :lol:

The down side. easy_e17 is a little brut. It will go through the cvs tree and download everything, everytime you update it will rebuild all even if don't have updates, besides one or two small bugs that make it output duplicate info and wont output other...

I have made a changed version, with some add-ons (i can't see a script that i would not touch

, don't have much free time latelly... but i intend to add ppurka's nice control of updates and better cvs checks, only download what is wanted, etc).
You can check it here. Is stable. The original from morlenxus is here.

If you decided for easy_e17 (original or altered) just delete first all emerge old e17 (use my script to make a backup to prevent bad things), make a file ~/ .easy_e17.conf with the packages you don't want or are broken like:

Ariem · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject:

Olá Rui,

thanks for your detailed explanation.
Before you (and ppurka) replied, I found one post that you mention the easy_e17 script and why you use it.
Thus, I already started it. It's right now checking out the cvs. hmm.. wait.. well.. it was downloading but somehow is stuck in

boneyfrog · Apprentice Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 152

Ariem · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject:

RuiP · l33t Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 643

Olá Ariem,
glad you answer me because while i typing i failed to see that you and ppurka post (here is hot, my brain melted down).
I was looking for something like the link ppurka refers, but with no luck. Tanks ppurka! My links are corrected too, sorry.

About my censored entrys, i indeed used mine as an example. The reason for those scpecifics, some i don't use, others are or was broken recently. engage today compiled but it was a 1st time on a long period. entrance is ok i think. Only trial can decide. Most of the time it depends on the day

(since, shelf stabilized, things have changed fast and sometimes with some broken here and then)

Edit: You are being fast

thanks boneyfrog for the link. I should have add that too on my post, is now there.
Ariem, my "improved version" quite now only add a report with dates of updates (make easy to keep), add --date flag and ask confirmation for the actions to do. An -u|--update flag will only be possible next week when i finally got hollydays and a little time to work on it.
have fun
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Ariem · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject:

OK, so were 2 versions of the same script after all..

Well, while the script is running I noticed it checked out Engage (and others) when I removed it from the list of packages.
Does the script download ALL the cvs, or just what is specified in the variables e17_apps, e17_libs and so on?
Is because it downloads ALL cvs that one has to use the .easy_e17.conf file to skip unwanted packages?

Sounds a bit silly...

RuiP · l33t Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 643

Ariem · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject:

So here come the first problems

Whem compiling Etk_server (for what is this necessary?)

RuiP · l33t Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 643

Uhm weird, i update a few hours ago and all went nice, that included.

I remember that when that thing appear (or when i noted) on morlenxus script list i have keep it as one to skip and e works, so that should be a fundamental one.

Anyway that kind of error, not found a lib or part of e previous compiled, usually means that there is a lost file somewhere in the meedle of the system (and in the $PATH). Do a search for etk (and/or etk.so) and check for files not in /opt/e17.

Btw, i forget something that is important. Since your new e will live on /opt you should add /opt/e17 to your path.
(would that be the cause of the problem?)

Sometimes delete /tmp/easy_e17 works nicely to solve misterious errors. lol (old compiles...)

Good luck.
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astnbomb · n00b Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 8

My easy_17.sh is failing on almost every modules and they are are showing the same error message. I've been skipping the ones that fail by using the --skip= argument but its becoming a huge list of modules because they all keep failing.

I'm hoping someone knows why im getting this error message and how I would go about fixing this problem.

This is the error message im seeing when the script gets to the modules:

ppurka · Advocate Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256

Ariem · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:47 pm Post subject:

OK.. I haven't reached the bottom of the problem, but I noticed that this file causing most of the problems (most of my modules are also not compiling), e_mod_main.c, is located in /usr/include/enlightenment/.
As I understood RuiP, this script installs all enlightenment inside /opt/e17/. Thus, that file should be from a previous install, and most likely a previous version. In my case, should be pre-shelf by using emerge to install it.

If I'm right in these assumptions, then the solution should be un-emerge all previous e17.
I was waiting to have a working version in /opt/e17/ before doing that.. but.. maybe I need to do it before.

Anyone with other ideas?
What I'm saying makes any sense... ?
Can someone that uses this script check if he has this file in the folder I mentioned to be sure it belongs to an emerged version? thanks

Ariem · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject:

ppurka · Advocate Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256

@Ariem It will definitely help if you unmerge the previous version of e17. Apparently, looking at the error you were getting regarding etk-server, your etk-config lies in /usr/bin whereas you are using a script which installs everything in /opt/e17. That does seem contradictory doesn't it?

Alternative to trying to backup everything, you can try putting the binary PATH of /opt/e17 (I don't use this method, so just find out which is the bin directory in /opt/e17) before your $PATH variable. For eg. if the binary path is /opt/e17/bin, then you can set your $PATH to be

astnbomb · n00b Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 8

Well i figured out a solution to my problem...for some reason the compile was still trying to use enlightenment include files from /usr/include/enlightenment instead of /opt/e17/include/enlightenment.

My solution?: Make a backup of /usr/include/enlightenment and create a symbolic link in its place that points to /opt/e17/include/enlightenment.

Problem solved, all modules install perfectly :-)

Lionheart · n00b Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 37

When I'll try to merge engage cvs Igot this compilation error :

bos_mindwarp · Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:44 am Post subject:

Hey guys, this thread is 40 pages long now, so can someone plz point me to the info on how to emerge e17 nowadays? Something with /etc/portage/... I think =)

Thx.

Lionheart · n00b Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 37

Guide to Emerge Entrance
Guide to Emerge E17

RuiP · l33t Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 643

Hi, just a quick reply (i'm in a hurry)

@Ariem, sorry my mistake, yes of course is /opt/e17/bin. (i must avoid to post at 1am after a bad long day

...)
About modules. keep in mind that most of them have problems either because they are old and unmanteined (like embrace) or are in a very begining state of they existence.
Try to build first the ones you are using and you really need.

@Ariem and astnbomb,
it's *fundamental* to remove first any previous version that you have (i suggest earlier to Ariem to use my script to make a backup of the existing e for the case of something wrong happens). If you don't delete old e17, the easy_e17 script will try to build e17 on /opt but try to link to libs on /usr/lib and not on /opt/e17/usr/lib, give problems of "not found app" (altough they just been compiled).

ppurka mention entrance been blacklist. That was in my example on how to blacklist. I just copy+past mine and since i don't use it... Please people check the list carefully.
The blacklist on that example are my choices. You have to adapt it to your preferences.

@bos_mindwarp
besides the 2 suggested, read at least this page and the previous one, on comments on those options and other alternatives.

Good luck all.
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RuiP · l33t Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 643

hi, sorry to double post.
i made a patch for the new version of easy_e17.sh (1.0.3).
For those interested you can find link and comments on the e17 scripts thread.

hope you find it useful.
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codergeek42 · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:38 am Post subject:

Long threads hurt the forums. Please continue to part 4. Thanks.

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