emerge --newuse world -Dpv frustration

[wrc1944]

I just removed all gnome packages I could find, in order to make my system pure kde, and clean out stuff I never use. The objective is to rid the sytem of all the myriad of gnome libs, etc., so I also unmerged anything i thought was dependent on gnome related packages. Also added -gnome to my use flags. I've read all the related docs, and forum posts, but still don't quite understand why I still get the following-

emerge --newuse still wants to reinstall lots of unwanted (by me) gnome packages I removed. I'd surely appreciate some expert pointers on what I need to do. Or am I going to be stuck with a certain number of unwanted gnome stuff no matter what, because other packages seem to require the gnome libs/packages? I'd be able to live with xfce4, in addition to my kde system, but this is pretty irritating.

mymachine wrc # emerge --newuse world -Dpv
>>> --newuse implies --update... adding --update to options.

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.13.2 -bzip2 -debug -doc -gnome -static 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-gfx/sane-backends-1.0.16-r4 [1.0.16-r2] -gphoto2 +ipv6 +usb -v4l 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 -doc +kde +nls 0 kB
[ebuild R ] dev-perl/gtk-perl-0.7009-r2 -applet -gnome* -gnome-print -gtkhtml +opengl 0 kB
[ebuild NS ] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.4 -debug -doc +ssl -static 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gconf-2.12.0 -debug -doc -static 0 kB
[ebuild U ] dev-lisp/cmucl-19b [19a-r1] -doc -lesstif -nosource 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r1] +3dnow +X -a52 (-altivec) -dv -dvdread +encode -fame +gtk -imagemagick* +jpeg -lzo -mjpeg +mmx +mpeg -network +ogg -pvm +quicktime +sdl -sse -sse2 -theora +truetype -v4l +vorbis +xml2 -xvid 0 kB
[ebuild R ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.0-r6 +X -a52 -aac +aalib +alsa (-altivec) +arts -cle266 -directfb -dts -dvd -dxr3 +esd -fbcon -ffmpeg +flac -gnome* -i8x0 -imagemagick* +ipv6 -libcaca +mad -mng +nls -nvidia +opengl +oss -samba +sdl +speex -theora -v4l -vcd -vidix +vorbis -win32codecs -xinerama +xv -xvmc 0 kB
[ebuild R ] media-sound/rosegarden-4.1.0-r1 +arts* -debug +jack -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild R ] media-libs/raptor-1.4.7 +curl -gnome* +ssl +xml2 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1 -debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1 -debug -doc -static 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2 -debug 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1 -debug -doc -gnutls -hal -howl +ipv6 -samba +ssl 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.12.0.1 -debug -doc +esd -static 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1-r1 +X -debug -doc -static 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.5 -debug 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.12.0 -debug -doc +jpeg -static 0 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.4.1 -debug -doc +ipv6 -kerberos -krb4 -ldap -mozilla -nntp +ssl -static 0 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1 -debug 0 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.1 -accessibility -debug 0 kB
[ebuild R ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.0-r1 -debug +encode -gnome* -pccts 0 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-wm/fluxbox-0.9.14-r1 -gnome +imlib +kde +nls +truetype -xinerama 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
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[dgaffuri]

Add -gtk -gtk2 to USE variable in /etc/make.conf. The -t flag with emerge -pv may help you finding why unwanted packages are required.
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[wrc1944]

Thanks dgaffuri,

That clued me in- I think I can go from here and figure it out- just started an emerge --update --deep --newuse world.

I guess I should remove this thread, as I subsequently have found a bunch of other posts on the subject., but I'll wait a day and see if I mess up first..

Hmmm..... Or can the original poster remove the thread after someone answers?
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kernel-6.8.4 USE=experimental python3_11

[i92guboj]

Use emerge -puDvNt to see a full list with all the related deps in a tree like hierarchy. That can give you an idea of the package that need some gnome libs. Generally, I would not encourage you to use -gtk -gtk2 unless you fully understand the implications. See that gtk and gtk2 are not necesarily gnome apps. Assuming that you know what you are doing, another thing to note is that usually, gtk and gtk2 has nothing to do with all these apps. Some programs might offer an alternative interface using gtk or gtk2 and usually they dont need gnome libraries at all (no, gtk is not a gnome library, but the Gimp ToolKit) and now that I named it, remember that you will need gtk to run the gimp.

[Maedhros]

Moved from Portage & Programming to Duplicate Threads in favour of GF8: Why is <y> getting pulled in when I emerge <x>?
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