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Gentree
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No new nitro yet please , I'm just getting to appreciate this one!
I'm not one for posting "just built it, _feels_ much faster" so I didn't, but I think timely thanks are due for your efforts on this one.
I've been emerge -e -ing all day long with 4.1-beta, listening to muzic and browsering , whatever. I'd hardly even notice the load of 98% CPU going to the compiler.
Best desktop kernel I've had for a long time.
Many thanks to you and of course the honorable ck. 
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JetAce44
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger683 wrote: | | are you using a libata driver ? |
No, I'm using the built in kernel driver.
Edit: Problem solved. https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-416270-highlight-.html
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Hauser
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| Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| na641 wrote: | | just a heads up, the most recent nvidia drivers (8178) won't work for me using nitro. |
The latest driver works here.
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JetAce44
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| Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Hauser wrote: | | na641 wrote: | | just a heads up, the most recent nvidia drivers (8178) won't work for me using nitro. |
The latest driver works here. |
Just installed them here, work fine. The new compositioning works great, finally no lag-ups of X!
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satanskin
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| So what's the limit on the Lowmem patch? Because I think I had that on, and now I just bumped my RAM up to 3gb from 1gb, but it is only showing 1.97gb. I can't find the option in the kernel to go turn on High-mem! Where is it? |
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b3cks
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| satanskin wrote: | | So what's the limit on the Lowmem patch? Because I think I had that on, and now I just bumped my RAM up to 3gb from 1gb, but it is only showing 1.97gb. I can't find the option in the kernel to go turn on High-mem! Where is it? |
# make menuconfig -> Processor type and features
and there you can set the value for High Memory Support and turn 1Gb Low Memory Support off.
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satanskin
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| b3cks wrote: | | satanskin wrote: | | So what's the limit on the Lowmem patch? Because I think I had that on, and now I just bumped my RAM up to 3gb from 1gb, but it is only showing 1.97gb. I can't find the option in the kernel to go turn on High-mem! Where is it? |
# make menuconfig -> Processor type and features
and there you can set the value for High Memory Support and turn 1Gb Low Memory Support off. |
Been there but i don't see it in there. The only options I see are:
| Code: | Processor family (AMD-Opteron/Athlon64) ---> │ │
│ │< > /dev/cpu/microcode - Intel CPU microcode support │ │
│ │<*> /dev/cpu/*/msr - Model-specific register support │ │
│ │<*> /dev/cpu/*/cpuid - CPU information support │ │
│ │[*] MTRR (Memory Type Range Register) support │ │
│ │[ ] Symmetric multi-processing support │ │
│ │ Preemption Model (Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop)) --->│ │
│ │[*] Preempt The Big Kernel Lock │ │
│ │ Memory model (Flat Memory) ---> │ │
│ │[*] PM timer
│[*] Provide RTC interrupt │ │
│ │[*] IOMMU support │ │
│ │--- Machine check support │ │
│ │[*] Intel MCE features │ │
│ │[ ] kexec system call (EXPERIMENTAL) │ │
│ │[*] Enable seccomp to safely compute untrusted bytecode │ │
│ │ Timer frequency (1000 HZ) ---> |
damn that looks ugly. Anyway, I thought amd64 was suppose to be abel to automagically recognize large amounts of ram? If so, why is it only showing 1.97gb instead of the full 3gb that i have in there!? |
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b3cks
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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That's weird. My Processor type and features-Menu has a different order and is even longer. Are you sure you are in the correct kernel path? What does your BIOS tells you about your RAM value?
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Cinder6
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AFAIK, x86_64 kernels have himem support on by default (and you can't change it). All of my x86_64 kernels have been this way (normal x86 has the extended options).
Though I am not sure why your system is only showing 1.97GB...
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Gentree
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Hi,
how can I determine the version of R4 that is in a given kernel ? I know this one has 1.0.5 but I'm truing to sync with another system . I looked into the R4 source code but could not find any indication of the version !?
Maybe I just missed it.
Would it be possible to retro this kernel to 1.0.4 ?
I dont see any outstanding reason to move to the new version and it breaks compatability with lots of things like my previous 2.6.11-nitro2 which I would like to keep as a fallback and all the R4 aware liveCDs.
I have reiser4progs locked down at 1.0.4 and dont like things being out of sync .
This is a great kernel but this feature is more of hinderance.
thanks for any suggestions.
regards.
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iphitus
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| Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| Gentree wrote: | Hi,
Would it be possible to retro this kernel to 1.0.4 ?
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Possible, in the literal sense, not in the practical sense.
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I dont see any outstanding reason to move to the new version and it breaks compatability with lots of things like my previous 2.6.11-nitro2 which I would like to keep as a fallback and all the R4 aware liveCDs.
regards. |
You missed Archie.
http://archie.dotsrc.org/
As for the fallback, just use the previous kernel to your current one as a fallback once you have started using the updated R4. |
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Gentree
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| Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the tip, I'll give Archie a look (one more distro on the shelf cant hurt  ) and it uses my favourite WM.
I take it you're implying it has latest R4 and reiser4progs.
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As for the fallback, just use the previous kernel to your current one as a fallback once you have started using the updated R4. |
I did quite understand what you meant here.
If I boot to 2.6.11-nitro2 it cant deal with R4 partitions made on this kernel.
Maybe I'm confused about something but these R4 incompatabilities are a nightmare. I did not want to update reiser4progs because of this .
Thx.
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Gentree
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| Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Quick note until I get some more concrete info on this : it seems that simply mounting an R4 partition with an 1.0.5 enabled kernel renders it unreadable by any earlier kernels!!
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=112791526500003&r=1&w=2
some info on the reiser ML although even the devs at sysname seem a little confused about version and what actually happens, there's even a little "sorry" Hans.
Tiger, would it be a good idea to stick a nice clear health warning at the top of this thread about the issue. It would let users take precausions and reoganise if necessary rather than finding out the hard way.
Best regards to all , and a nitrous new year !
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HecHacker1
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Gentree wrote: | Quick note until I get some more concrete info on this : it seems that simply mounting an R4 partition with an 1.0.5 enabled kernel renders it unreadable by any earlier kernels!!
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=112791526500003&r=1&w=2
some info on the reiser ML although even the devs at sysname seem a little confused about version and what actually happens, there's even a little "sorry" Hans.
Tiger, would it be a good idea to stick a nice clear health warning at the top of this thread about the issue. It would let users take precausions and reoganise if necessary rather than finding out the hard way.
Best regards to all , and a nitrous new year ! |
heh, I'm glag Hans finally said something about all the problems I have been having with 1.0.5. I really like reiser4 because it IS the fastest filesystem I have ever used, but 1.0.5 completely borked things for me.
Until the next reiser4 is stable I will stay on ext3. |
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iphitus
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No need for a health warning, we've been using 1.0.5 for quite a few months now. Its the minority that still use it for reasons unknown.
What i meant is, compile a 1.0.5 kernel, and run that. And whenever you compile a new one after that one, you can leave the original to fallback. Or just use a liveCD. I dont see any reason to continue with 1.0.4.
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priestjim
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Will someone please PLEASE tell me why my new Sempron64 (stepping E6 - ASUS K8N4E-DLX) system won't boot with {2.6.14-nitro2, 2.6.15-rc5} with ACPI enabled, but it will with APM (with half the devices working and crashing all the time)? Tried bios upgrades/downgrades, changing 2^35 options in BIOS, tried with the most stripped down kernel ever but still no luck. Downgrading to 2.6.13 (with full config/bios settings as it should have worked from the beginning) solved it but WHY?...
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Gentree
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| iphitus wrote: | No need for a health warning, we've been using 1.0.5 for quite a few months now. Its the minority that still use it for reasons unknown.
What i meant is, compile a 1.0.5 kernel, and run that. And whenever you compile a new one after that one, you can leave the original to fallback. Or just use a liveCD. I dont see any reason to continue with 1.0.4.
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OK one reason is that I have several R4 partitions and I also have suse on this machine because I support freinds that are on Suse.
Suse can not use an R4 that has been "fixed" by mounting it with a 1.0.5 kernel.
[As a user I think this total lack of respect for compatablility between the most minor build upgrades is the main flaw in Reiser4. Between 1.0.3 and 1.0.4 it was just a case of not creating a new partition. This situation is a lot less helpful.]
Also I dont want just any kernel as fallback. I had a very fast stable kernel with no issues : 2.6.11-nitro2 That is a well tested point of reference when I am trying new stuff . It's a know point of comparison when something breaks , that's the whole point of keeping it.
I do actually have to keep a working system bootable on this machine at the same time as playing with new stuff.
If this new R4 is going to break things it's going to have to go hopefully Hans will modify it to render it more compatible but I doubt it . Does not seem to his way of working.
This is an excellent kernel apart from this issue but so was 2.6.11-nitro2
For now I have swichted back , "repaired" my R4 partitions and all is sweet.
Good luck with the Archie project , a number of things did not work on 0.6 but it was good enough to be a rescue system for this new R4 stuff.
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Jazz
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: |
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2.6.15 is out ! any new nitro releases comming soon ?
Waiting to test the new kernel with the blazing nitro patchset !
Thanx,
Jazz
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b3cks
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Come on Tiger, you lazy student! Stand up and do your job! We are waiting for hours! 
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| b3cks wrote: | | Come on Tiger, you lazy student! Stand up and do your job! We are waiting for hours! |
Same here, I can't wait. Come on Tiger 
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tagwar
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Iirc Tiger will not be back till next monday... look back a couple pages in this thread.
Sad but true..  |
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b3cks
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| tagwar wrote: | Iirc Tiger will not be back till next monday... look back a couple pages in this thread.
Sad but true.. |
Yes, students in germany still have holiday this week.
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| b3cks wrote: | | tagwar wrote: | Iirc Tiger will not be back till next monday... look back a couple pages in this thread.
Sad but true.. |
Yes, students in germany still have holiday this week. |
So do the swiss students.
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Martin.Jansa
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| tagwar wrote: | Iirc Tiger will not be back till next monday... look back a couple pages in this thread.
Sad but true.. |
Hope is still here.
Because Tiger said:
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If not, sorry to say, I will be away until 3 january, which means no new nitro until then, until someone gets seppe to do it.
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and it's not next monday (I hope ) |
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