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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this works out the way the X800 release did, we can probably expect official X1800 drivers by March, or maybe April.

I'm just surprised ATI released a new driver already. I mean, it doesn't actually support any cards released this year, but 2 Linux drivers in 2 months? That's, like, slightly more than double their usual release rate. They're really shaping up!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 month, and only 2 small changes in the newest release... oh yeah 3 if you count the new rss feed on ATI's site. Just how long will it then take ATI to release drivers which support the x1k chips? forever? I would not be complaining if the vesa driver just did what I want it to do, but it looks like I'm out of luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Null Pointer wrote:
My monitor is a Dell 2405FPW (24" widescreen). Internally it uses a Samsung LCD panel. The resolution is WUXGA. VGA is 640x480 4-bit color.
That's why you shouldn't use a standard VGA driver.

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Product Info for 2405FPW...Geez, they don't even give you much info, not even all the possible resolutions, just the max! :cry: And Max Sync Rate (VxH) 76Hz x 86Mhz. Do you have a monitor manual that shows all the possible combinations of screen resolutions and various sync rates each resolution can run at?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhhh... VESA does support 1920x1200. I'm not using a standard VGA driver. I think you're confusing the video card and the monitor. Also, LCD monitors only really have one resolution - the native one. The rest are just software emulation tomfoolery. Unlike a CRT, LCD monitors have a set number of pixels.

And yes, as I mentioned in the original post I do have the monitor's maintenance manual and I do have a correct modeline. The monitor and my settings are not the problem, the problem is the lack of driver support for my video card, and the fact that the VESA driver - brilliantly programmed, by the way - actively ignores any and every modeline you attempt to use, correct or not.

Edit: Oh dammit, do people even test ebuilds these days? virtual/x11 is masked but it's listed as a dependency to build kde (?).
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my attempt to modify radeon_drv.o ended in tears. I don't think I want to discuss it further.

Anybody have any other ideas?

Edit: Bah! I'm resigning myself to my fate and installing an X300.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, I was reading this:
Code:
# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
    Identifier   "Standard VGA"
    VendorName   "Unknown"
    BoardName   "Unknown"

# The chipset line is optional in most cases.  It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

#    Chipset   "generic"

# The Driver line must be present.  When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module.  Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.

    Driver     "vga"


I see your server layout is not pointing to these devices, though...sorry.
Your situation stinks. I hope someone here comes up with a suggestion for you.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a x1300xl pci-e and i cant get it to run anything at all. not even xorg. i think ati needs to give some real support or they might lose everyone to nvidia.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just updating to say that the latest ATI fglrx drivers (released within the past couple of days) still don't support the X1000-series.

This is damn shameful.

Next scheduled release should be around March 19th. Hopefully my estimate above will not prove to be overly-generous.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we should bet on it :)

Right now I have not had a single system crash, but that is probably going to change when ATI finally releases some x1k drivers :(
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No bets. I don't put anything past ATI at this point.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using a x1300pro. The latest ati-drivers (8.21.7) sems to be working as kernel module, but I'm not able to start X using that driver.
I've read somewhere that the ati driver doesn't work when xorg is compiled using the dlloader use-flag. So I reemerged using "-dlloader". Then X didn't start nomatter which driver I used.
That problem I read was due to using the hardened useflag. Reemerging without it made crappy compilation errors. So now I'm trying to figure out how to do an USE="-hardened -dlloader" emerge -eD world without errors. If i'm lucky x wil start using the fglrx driver too!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't count on it. There is no support for the x1k series yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

enrique wrote:
Don't count on it. There is no support for the x1k series yet.


Well, the kernel module for 8.21.7 does load. I was unable to get any of the earlier versions to load, so there must be somewhat better support in this one than in the earlier ones. I'll find out tonight if recompiling everything has helped.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a question of there being "better support" or not. It's a question of "support fullstop". And there isn't any yet. Chances are the older versions of the driver didn't have an interface for the version of the kernel you were using.

fglrx isn't initialized until the graphics server starts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is soooo annoying. ati suck so much, and to think i sold my nvidia card, which has perfect drivers unlike this junk :/ not impressed. vesa doesnt even work for me too, and vga is too low resolution :'( we need a solution!.
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