Gentoo 2006.0 Feature Requests

F-0_ICE · l33t Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 679

wolf31o2, just a quick question when you release 2006.0 what version of gcc will be on the amd64 platform?

thanks
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GNUtoo · Veteran Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 1919

smurfd · Apprentice Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 176

hey!

so i hope some of these stuff havent been mentioned before (i guess most have)

it'd be cool if the graphical installer was available, in a sortof stable fashion.

i really like ubuntus way, having no root login. only using sudo, and if you want a root user to login to, you do "sudo passwd root" kinda messy at first, but after you get used to it (took a day) its nice.

is there some way to follow any kind of development, so one could have Any clue as to when it is about to be unleashed? i look at p.g.o. (cus i guess, no date is set yet?)

thats about it i guess, most stuff already mentioned alot...

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F-0_ICE · l33t Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 679

just curious if gcc-3.4x will be on it. thought it be nice to begin with 3.4 since i am still working on the gcc upgrade on my 566 celeron machine. so starting with it will be good since its will be my first gentoo on amd64 platform. and i would like to try and avoid a few problems as possible. got a new computer so why not a new livecd to go with it? thats why i am eagerly awaiting the release of 2006.0. also if you have any advice on amd64 feel free to post it here
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carl.anderson · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: sysvinit - change_colsole support

I would like to see the livecd version of sysvinit include change_console support. This is a simple utility that ships with RedHat's sysvinit. For some reason it doesn't ship with Gentoo's sysvinit sources. I spend a lot of time hacking up the livecds, and this is something I know I would use. AFAICT, there is no other way to change consoles from within a script.

ecatmur · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject:

If you want change_console on the LiveCD, you just need to get it into Gentoo sysvinit. Have you filed a bug?
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carl.anderson · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:54 am Post subject: not yet

I haven't filed the bug yet.

I realized, after trying to just copy the change_console binary onto the livecd, that it didn't matter since the sysvinit wasn't compiled to respond to change_console.

I'll file the bug.

GNUtoo · Veteran Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 1919

GNUtoo · Veteran Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 1919

wow i've seen screenshot of the graphical installer...and i want to use it's use flag maker...
is it possible
all the use flags software that i've seen did not include the explanatin with the flag

normaly i do emerge -pv
then i look with firefox(great search) at use.desc and use.local.desc
then i update make.conf...(faster than USE="insertFlagsHere" emerge insertPackageHere)
then i emerge InsertPackageHere

the timezone is also great and also the other setting...

personaly i prefer a hybrid installation where part is made from X(such as make xconfig),part is made from both(partitioning) and part is made from the command line(all the rest),
the gentoo official cd can't do that
knoppix is very annoying because of a lot of things...(auto mouting,no nano,networking...) so i use another gentoo box and knoppix for installing gentoo to a new box

morbid · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 90

2006.0 based off gcc3.4?? I'd hope it would be gcc4.0 based. Also using the modular xorg-7.0. Anything less just wouldn't be gentooish :wink:

Maybe init-ng too, but I haven't played with that yet... so I'm not sure how well it plays with everything.

smurfd · Apprentice Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 176

hm so is there some kindof time plan, or is 2006.0 comming when it feels right?

i mean, there's a new gnome release "around the corner" and i guess a new kde is somewher close aswell..waiting for those?

sorry, i havent read up about gentoo releases in a while.

i was thinking of another thing though, portage. takes up alot of space. per default. i mean /usr/portage aproximately 550mb not counting distfiles/

then there's /var/cache/edb about 90mb and /var/db/pkg about 120mb.
Thats quite alot. close to 800mb.

seeing how its mostly text it should be able to be compressed quite alot.

example. i did a simple tar archive of all the dev-*/ folders in portage, the tar archive took about 40mb where the dev-*/ took about 100+mb without compression.

im not sure exactly what happens, when you "emerge sync" but wouldnt it be easiest to simply do a "cvs co <path to portage cvs tree>" ?

i mean, there ARE people, belive it or not, who use gentoo without having 2gb in ram

sorry for the rant, take care.

morbid · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 90

Hmm... not sure what's different about your system. All of my systems have /usr/portage on it's own 256mb partition. Here's a sample of my utilization...

/usr/portage = 161mb
/var/cache/edb = 31mb
/var/db/pkg = 36mb

This laptop was reloaded about 1 year ago... but my other systems that have had the same load (from Gentoo 1.4 I think) from about 3 years ago... have similar utilization.

curtis119 · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:11 am Post subject:

I request that Gentoo get it's own torrent tracker instead of relying on a third party like they do now. Oh wait, I just set that up.

http://torrents.gentoo.org/
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mark_alec · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:58 am Post subject: