-BDIRECT, anyone seen this?

neuron · Advocate Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2371

Somehow this post:
http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2005-10/msg00436.html

Has gone without any discussion, and with very little publisity at all, but personally I find it extreamly interesting. The counter argument is that prelink already does something like this, but in my opinion prelink is a dirty hack (set up manually, or if when set up by the distro runs a task which uses all my resources on an interval, no thank you), and this solution seems relativly clean.

Anyone else noticed this thread at all?

nxsty · Veteran Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1556 Location: .se

Sounds nice. But the toolchain dictator didn't like it so it'll probably never be included.

IWBCMAN · Guru Joined: 25 Jun 2002 Posts: 474

yup, Ulrich Drepper, definitely deserves the name toolchain dictator. It is just one of those things...if you do the hard work, which others won't/don't do, you have the right to be an asshole-if others don't like it-tough luck....I am sure that he has his reasons(and probably good ones too) for rejecting Michael Meeks suggested patch..but I am equally sure that he couldn't be bothered to actually discuss why such an approach as suggested is a wrong way to solve the percieved problem. The kind of terseness in his comment - his non-chalant way of utterly dismissing Meeks is enough to bring ones blood to a boil- but it is his perogative, even if, in so doing, he is a callous asshole. But I trully do value the work of that asshole, I certainly can't do it, and I know of no one who could do it better, so who am I to complain....It is a sahme that some of the best coders, some of the ones who do the best work, that make our lives so much better are such insufferable assholes-but such is life and we would be poorer without them

playfool · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:24 am Post subject:

Ulrich Drepper is one of the single most talented programmers in the community, if he rejects something he has his reasons.

nxsty · Veteran Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1556 Location: .se

Martigen · n00b Joined: 04 Mar 2003 Posts: 59

nxsty, can you include Meeks' patch in your next patched glibc? It sounds like a clean patch, and easily tested/ignored if people so choose. Prelink is a fudge, and doesn't work completely. If Ulrich doesn't want to give it a go, doesn't mean we can't (and even, perhaps, report results).

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nxsty · Veteran Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1556 Location: .se

playfool · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject:

enderandrew · l33t Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 731

Has anyone tried this patch?
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playfool · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:15 pm Post subject:

And Micheal Meeks just submitted this to our bugzilla:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114008

So now you to can enjoy -Bdirect goodness.

neuron · Advocate Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2371

very nice, thanks for the heads up

wangxiaohu · Apprentice Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 248

predatorfreak · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:35 am Post subject:

nxsty · Veteran Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1556 Location: .se