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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: KDE 3.5 realised Reply with quote

Hi, the new KDE is ready!
There is a guide for help our member to make the update before the Stable gentoo built.
First:
Open a konsole or your favorite terminal and write: (use nano or your favorite editor)
Code:
su
nano -w /etc/portage/package.keywords


in your editor, add following line in the file:
Code:

x11-base/xorg-x11 ~86
app-cdr/k3b ~x86
=media-libs/akode-2.0_rc1 ~x86
=app-text/poppler-0.4.2-r1 ~x86
=app-text/poppler-0.4.2 ~x86
=>sys-fs/udev-071 ~x86
=sys-fs/udev-072 ~x86
=sys-fs/udev-073 ~x86
sys-apps/hal ~x86
#sys-apps/hal-0.5.5.1 ~x86
sys-apps/pmount ~x86
sys-apps/dbus ~x86
sys-apps/ivman ~x86
gnome-base/gnome-vfs ~x86
gnome-base/orbit ~x86



kde-base/akode ~x86
kde-base/akregator ~x86
kde-base/amor ~x86
kde-base/ark ~x86
kde-base/arts ~x86
kde-base/artsplugin-akode ~x86
kde-base/artsplugin-audiofile ~x86
kde-base/artsplugin-mpeglib ~x86
kde-base/artsplugin-mpg123 ~x86
kde-base/artsplugin-xine ~x86
kde-base/atlantik ~x86
kde-base/atlantikdesigner ~x86
kde-base/blinken ~x86
kde-base/certmanager ~x86
kde-base/cervisia ~x86
kde-base/dcopc ~x86
kde-base/dcopjava ~x86
kde-base/dcopperl ~x86
kde-base/dcoppython ~x86
kde-base/dcoprss ~x86
kde-base/drkonqi ~x86
kde-base/eyesapplet ~x86
kde-base/fifteenapplet ~x86
kde-base/juk ~x86
kde-base/kaboodle ~x86
kde-base/kaddressbook ~x86
kde-base/kaddressbook-plugins ~x86
kde-base/kalarm ~x86
kde-base/kalyptus ~x86
kde-base/kalzium ~x86
kde-base/kamera ~x86
kde-base/kanagram ~x86
kde-base/kandy ~x86
kde-base/kappfinder ~x86
kde-base/kapptemplate ~x86
kde-base/karm ~x86
kde-base/kasteroids ~x86
kde-base/kate ~x86
kde-base/kate-plugins ~x86
kde-base/katomic ~x86
kde-base/kaudiocreator ~x86
kde-base/kbabel ~x86
kde-base/kbackgammon ~x86
kde-base/kbattleship ~x86
kde-base/kblackbox ~x86
kde-base/kbounce ~x86
kde-base/kbruch ~x86
kde-base/kbstateapplet ~x86
kde-base/kbugbuster ~x86
kde-base/kcachegrind ~x86
kde-base/kcalc ~x86
kde-base/kcharselect ~x86
kde-base/kcheckpass ~x86
kde-base/kcminit ~x86
kde-base/kcoloredit ~x86
kde-base/kcontrol ~x86
kde-base/kcron ~x86
kde-base/kdat ~x86
kde-base/kdcop ~x86
kde-base/kde ~x86
kde-base/kde-env ~x86
kde-base/kde-i18n ~x86
kde-base/kde-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdeaccessibility ~x86
kde-base/kdeaccessibility-iconthemes ~x86
kde-base/kdeaccessibility-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdeaddons ~x86
kde-base/kdeaddons-docs-konq-plugins ~x86
kde-base/kdeaddons-kfile-plugins ~x86
kde-base/kdeaddons-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdeadmin ~x86
kde-base/kdeadmin-kfile-plugins ~x86
kde-base/kdeadmin-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork-emoticons ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork-icewm-themes ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork-iconthemes ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork-kwin-styles ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork-kworldclock ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork-sounds ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork-styles ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork-wallpapers ~x86
kde-base/kdebase ~x86
kde-base/kdebase-data ~x86
kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves ~x86
kde-base/kdebase-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86
kde-base/kdebase-startkde ~x86
kde-base/kdebindings-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdebugdialog ~x86
kde-base/kdeedu ~x86
kde-base/kdeedu-applnk ~x86
kde-base/kdeedu-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdegames ~x86
kde-base/kdegames-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdegraphics ~x86
kde-base/kdegraphics-kfile-plugins ~x86
kde-base/kdegraphics-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdejava ~x86
kde-base/kdelibs ~x86
kde-base/kdelirc ~x86
kde-base/kdemultimedia ~x86
kde-base/kdemultimedia-arts ~x86
kde-base/kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data ~x86
kde-base/kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins ~x86
kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves ~x86
kde-base/kdemultimedia-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdenetwork ~x86
kde-base/kdenetwork-filesharing ~x86
kde-base/kdenetwork-kfile-plugins ~x86
kde-base/kdenetwork-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdepasswd ~x86
kde-base/kdepim ~x86
kde-base/kdepim-kioslaves ~x86
kde-base/kdepim-kresources ~x86
kde-base/kdepim-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdepim-wizards ~x86
kde-base/kdeprint ~x86
kde-base/kdesdk ~x86
kde-base/kdesdk-kfile-plugins ~x86
kde-base/kdesdk-kioslaves ~x86
kde-base/kdesdk-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdesdk-misc ~x86
kde-base/kdesdk-scripts ~x86
kde-base/kdesktop ~x86
kde-base/kdesu ~x86
kde-base/kdetoys ~x86
kde-base/kdetoys-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdeutils ~x86
kde-base/kdeutils-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdewebdev ~x86
kde-base/kdewebdev-meta ~x86
kde-base/kdf ~x86
kde-base/kdialog ~x86
kde-base/kdict ~x86
kde-base/kdm ~x86
kde-base/kdnssd ~x86
kde-base/kdvi ~x86
kde-base/kedit ~x86
kde-base/keduca ~x86
kde-base/kenolaba ~x86
kde-base/kfax ~x86
kde-base/kfilereplace ~x86
kde-base/kfind ~x86
kde-base/kfloppy ~x86
kde-base/kfouleggs ~x86
kde-base/kgamma ~x86
kde-base/kgeography ~x86
kde-base/kget ~x86
kde-base/kghostview ~x86
kde-base/kgoldrunner ~x86
kde-base/kgpg ~x86
kde-base/khangman ~x86
kde-base/khelpcenter ~x86
kde-base/khexedit ~x86
kde-base/khotkeys ~x86
kde-base/kicker ~x86
kde-base/kicker-applets ~x86
kde-base/kiconedit ~x86
kde-base/kig ~x86
kde-base/kimagemapeditor ~x86
kde-base/kitchensync ~x86
kde-base/kiten ~x86
kde-base/kjots ~x86
kde-base/kjsembed ~x86
kde-base/kjumpingcube ~x86
kde-base/klaptopdaemon ~x86
kde-base/klatin ~x86
kde-base/klettres ~x86
kde-base/klickety ~x86
kde-base/klines ~x86
kde-base/klinkstatus ~x86
kde-base/klipper ~x86
kde-base/kmag ~x86
kde-base/kmahjongg ~x86
kde-base/kmail ~x86
kde-base/kmailcvt ~x86
kde-base/kmathtool ~x86
kde-base/kmenuedit ~x86
kde-base/kmessedwords ~x86
kde-base/kmid ~x86
kde-base/kmilo ~x86
kde-base/kmines ~x86
kde-base/kmix ~x86
kde-base/kmobile ~x86
kde-base/kmoon ~x86
kde-base/kmousetool ~x86
kde-base/kmouth ~x86
kde-base/kmplot ~x86
kde-base/kmrml ~x86
kde-base/kmtrace ~x86
kde-base/knetattach ~x86
kde-base/knewsticker ~x86
kde-base/knewsticker-scripts ~x86
kde-base/knode ~x86
kde-base/knotes ~x86
kde-base/kode ~x86
kde-base/kodo ~x86
kde-base/kolf ~x86
kde-base/kolourpaint ~x86
kde-base/kommander ~x86
kde-base/kompare ~x86
kde-base/konq-plugins ~x86
kde-base/konqueror ~x86
kde-base/konqueror-akregator ~x86
kde-base/konquest ~x86
kde-base/konsole ~x86
kde-base/konsolekalendar ~x86
kde-base/kontact ~x86
kde-base/kontact-specialdates ~x86
kde-base/kooka ~x86
kde-base/kopete ~x86
kde-base/korganizer ~x86
kde-base/korn ~x86
kde-base/korundum ~x86
kde-base/kpackage ~x86
kde-base/kpager ~x86
kde-base/kpat ~x86
kde-base/kpdf ~x86
kde-base/kpercentage ~x86
kde-base/kpersonalizer ~x86
kde-base/kpf ~x86
kde-base/kpilot ~x86
kde-base/kpoker ~x86
kde-base/kpovmodeler ~x86
kde-base/kppp ~x86
kde-base/krdc ~x86
kde-base/kreadconfig ~x86
kde-base/krec ~x86
kde-base/kregexpeditor ~x86
kde-base/kreversi ~x86
kde-base/krfb ~x86
kde-base/kruler ~x86
kde-base/ksame ~x86
kde-base/ksayit ~x86
kde-base/kscd ~x86
kde-base/kscreensaver ~x86
kde-base/kshisen ~x86
kde-base/ksig ~x86
kde-base/ksim ~x86
kde-base/ksirc ~x86
kde-base/ksirtet ~x86
kde-base/ksmiletris ~x86
kde-base/ksmserver ~x86
kde-base/ksnake ~x86
kde-base/ksnapshot ~x86
kde-base/ksokoban ~x86
kde-base/kspaceduel ~x86
kde-base/ksplashml ~x86
kde-base/kspy ~x86
kde-base/kstars ~x86
kde-base/kstart ~x86
kde-base/ksvg ~x86
kde-base/ksync ~x86
kde-base/ksysguard ~x86
kde-base/ksystraycmd ~x86
kde-base/ksysv ~x86
kde-base/ktalkd ~x86
kde-base/kteatime ~x86
kde-base/ktimer ~x86
kde-base/ktip ~x86
kde-base/ktnef ~x86
kde-base/ktouch ~x86
kde-base/ktron ~x86
kde-base/kttsd ~x86
kde-base/ktuberling ~x86
kde-base/kturtle ~x86
kde-base/ktux ~x86
kde-base/kuickshow ~x86
kde-base/kuiviewer ~x86
kde-base/kuser ~x86
kde-base/kverbos ~x86
kde-base/kview ~x86
kde-base/kviewshell ~x86
kde-base/kvoctrain ~x86
kde-base/kwalletmanager ~x86
kde-base/kweather ~x86
kde-base/kwifimanager ~x86
kde-base/kwin ~x86
kde-base/kwin4 ~x86
kde-base/kwordquiz ~x86
kde-base/kworldwatch ~x86
kde-base/kxkb ~x86
kde-base/kxsldbg ~x86
kde-base/libkcal ~x86
kde-base/libkcddb ~x86
kde-base/libkdeedu ~x86
kde-base/libkdegames ~x86
kde-base/libkdenetwork ~x86
kde-base/libkdepim ~x86
kde-base/libkholidays ~x86
kde-base/libkmime ~x86
kde-base/libkonq ~x86
kde-base/libkpgp ~x86
kde-base/libkpimexchange ~x86
kde-base/libkpimidentities ~x86
kde-base/libkscan ~x86
kde-base/libksieve ~x86
kde-base/libksirtet ~x86
kde-base/librss ~x86
kde-base/lilo-config ~x86
kde-base/lisa ~x86
kde-base/lskat ~x86
kde-base/metadata.xml ~x86
kde-base/mimelib ~x86
kde-base/mpeglib ~x86
kde-base/networkstatus ~x86
kde-base/noatun ~x86
kde-base/noatun-plugins ~x86
kde-base/nsplugins ~x86
kde-base/qtjava ~x86
kde-base/qtruby ~x86
kde-base/qtsharp ~x86
kde-base/quanta ~x86
kde-base/renamedlg-audio ~x86
kde-base/renamedlg-images ~x86
kde-base/secpolicy ~x86
kde-base/smoke ~x86
kde-base/superkaramba ~x86
kde-base/umbrello ~x86
kde-base/unsermake ~x86
kde-base/vimpart ~x86
kde-base/xparts ~x86

*if you dont want x.org 7 rc3 or other nonkde package, remove them for the list, using stable built is always recomanded.

Now, the longest part
Code:
emerge kde


Good luck with your new KDE 3.5, there is few minor bugs but they will be fixe in 3.5.1, for more information read next page of this thread.
*thanks to dalek who helped me to make the update.

for delete older version of kde:
Code:
emerge -P `emerge -Pp world | grep kde-base`


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just install it over. It'll run fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Ellison wrote:
Just install it over. It'll run fine.


What are the steps for that?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though 3.5 was released today, it is still masked in portage (~amd64 ~ppc ~sparc ~x86). You could go through the arduous task of adding each package to package.keywords, or you could simply wait till it is unmasked (hopefully soon?).
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
What are the steps for that?


emerge kde or kde-meta, depending on which set of ebuilds you started with.

It's still masked, though, so either unmask it or give it a bit of time.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

opqdan wrote:
You could go through the arduous task of adding each package to package.keywords...

Couldn't you just enter:
Code:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -u kde

at the command line and get the same thing?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

opqdan wrote:
You could go through the arduous task of adding each package to package.keywords, or you could simply wait till it is unmasked (hopefully soon?).


It's really not too difficult:


Code:

# cd /usr/portage


Code:

# for ebuild in kde-base/*; do echo "${ebuild} ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords; done


Code:

# for ebuild in kde-base/*; do echo ">=${ebuild}-3.5_beta1" >> /etc/portage/package.unmask; done
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Mountain Man wrote:

Couldn't you just enter:
Code:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -u kde

at the command line and get the same thing?


well, you could, but it is bad idea - next run of emerge -u world would want to downgrade to stable version of kde.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesnt this install the beta version and not the release?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello guys,

is there some fast KDE 3.5 mirror out there? ftp.kde.org is pretty overloaded... :cry:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark19960 wrote:
Doesnt this install the beta version and not the release?


Nope - notice the '>=' .... greater than or equal.

It will actually install the latest available packages.

Using *_beta was more usefull a few days ago - when some ebuilds were tagged as beta and some were rc.


If you look in /usr/portage/profile/package.mask, and grep for kde -- you'll see that they're all masked from _alpha or greater.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: [upgrade]KDE 3.5 Reply with quote

Elv13 wrote:
Hi, the new KDE is ready, just a question:
is it faster if i do do kde -nodeps for delete kde and after i install new one or i can just install it on the top of 3.4.3? (when it will be in portage)


I'm upgrading now. I'm using the -b option so if anyone wants what I compile let me know. It would be for the P4 arch.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tmf wrote:
The Mountain Man wrote:

Couldn't you just enter:
Code:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -u kde

at the command line and get the same thing?


well, you could, but it is bad idea - next run of emerge -u world would want to downgrade to stable version of kde.

True, but thankfully, "emerge -U" still works (why they're even thinking of removing this feature is beyond me.).
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I have never had the pleasure of upgrading KDE, so is there anything special that needs to be done?

When I first installed KDE I just emerged kde-meta, so if I just wait for it to become unmasked and do the same it will upgrade? (Also, stupid question, but it won't overwrite the config files that have all my personalizations to the menus, etc, will it?)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Also, stupid question, but it won't overwrite the config files that have all my personalizations to the menus, etc, will it?

I'm n00b too, but i think, it doesn't delete configs, but i have heared that some files are needed to be deleted manually, or smth gets f*cked up :P Don't know, that files in /home/username these are.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzzyva100 wrote:
So I have never had the pleasure of upgrading KDE, so is there anything special that needs to be done?

When I first installed KDE I just emerged kde-meta, so if I just wait for it to become unmasked and do the same it will upgrade? (Also, stupid question, but it won't overwrite the config files that have all my personalizations to the menus, etc, will it?)


Pretty much what UnHoly616 mentioned, your .kde config stuff should be fine between versions. The meta-kde should be slotted, so it would be a case of emerging that and changing the xsession in rc.conf to kde-3.5.

Actually I've got a question for the thread (not to thread jack) - but are the split ebuilds for KDE slotted at all ? Looking to upgrade to 3.5 here myself.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is all this slot thing about?
Why does it try to install it in a new slot, side by side with the old verison?
Any way to force it to upgrade? or any reason not?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe i'm doing something wrong but if I try :
Code:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -av kde


Portage tries to emerge :
Quote:

kde-base/kde-3.4.3


I've correctly did emerge --sync ;)


Is it normal ?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While we're on the subject when did kde 3.5 enter ~x86? I "emerge sync"'d today and I still see only 3.4.3.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or rather that's what I see when I
Code:

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -up kde
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

_kal_ wrote:
Is it normal ?


Yes, this is normal. There are "4" software stages
* normal e.g. x86 (for every day user)
* unstable e.g. ~x86 (for people who can live with unstable software)
* masked +M (for packages, which are extremly new or have been rewriten)
* hardly masked ~M (even to unstable for developers *g*)

currently kde-3.5 is masked, but should be unstableized soon ;)

http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=kdelibs
look out for the colors on the right site =)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's also a lot of other programs that are masked to allow the full installation of KDE 3.5......I'm upgrading to 3.4.3 right now.....I'll maybe hit 3.5 sometime soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me emphasize something here:

"ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~whatever [command]" should never be done!

It's not just a bad idea, it'll mess up your entire system. The short explanation is that nowhere is stored which package is ~ and which is not. The long explanation is present on the forum. Just use /etc/portage/package.[use,keywords,unmask,mask]. Take it from an, eh, apprentice :)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently there are a lot of dependencies that are alos masked (hal > .5, dbus > .33, pyrex > .9) which won't allow me to emerge. I'm a little leary of unmasking each of these packages, especially hal and dbus since I have had so much trouble with them in the past.

The dbus ebuilds really confuse me as they are up to .50-r1 and nothing above .30 is unmasked. Is there a shortage of people to test them, or is there actually something odd going on?


In short, I would love to update to 3.5, heck I've been looking forward to it for a couple months now, but I don't want to completly frak my system.

How long should it take to srt out all of the masking and 3.5 becomes generally available (ie no masks)? Is it worth it to wait?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Mountain Man wrote:
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ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -u kde
well, you could, but it is bad idea - next run of emerge -u world would want to downgrade to stable version of kde.
True, but thankfully, "emerge -U" still works (why they're even thinking of removing this feature is beyond me.).
Because maybe some devs have seen too many users trying to fix their broken left foot by shooting themselves in the right one.

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