Porthole-0.5.0 released

dol-sen · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:17 am Post subject: Porthole-0.5.0 released

Believe it or not, we finaly got -0.5.0 released. In case youv'e missed the other pre-release threads there are a lot of enhancements and stability improvements. We even have Vietnamese, German, French, Polish, Russian translations for all porthole's gui and messages. More languages will be added as translators volunteer thier talents.

I think this version of porthole is ready for prime-time

A quick listing of changes:

augury · l33t Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 722 Location: philadelphia

I had a problem w/ my porthole/python (more to do w/ python). Somehow the imports on my one system stopped working and I _can't_ fix them. The only way I could run porthole was to add imports and run it

augury · l33t Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 722 Location: philadelphia

This porthole is much better. Thank You.

Indech · n00b Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 22

Haven't played with it too much, but for initial impressions it's a great improvement over the previous versions.

A couple ideas that'd be nice to have:
For sync method there is no option to use esync (from app-portage/esearch)
A way to tag various packages for emerging and then emerge them all (as in Synaptic)

dol-sen · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject:

Adding more sync options is planned. It will take more coding to be able to set the command to alternamtives. I also would like to add tree views/sync options for the main portage tree and any overlays defined, including marking the ebuild version source (i.e. main tree, PORT_DIR_OVERLAY, BMG_OVERLAY, etc.).

Currently the only place you can tag packages is in the upgrades. Personally I don't know how much benifit there would be by adding the upgrades type selection to the main tree. I think there would be some significant recoding needed. All that is needed is to click on emerge to add it to the queue. I do plan to add a pause/resume function on the terminal queue. That would probably give equivalent functionality. With the terminal queue paused just click emerge fo the selected package, then in the queue you can review/edit/reorder them and the resume the queue.
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Cintra · Advocate Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 2111 Location: Norway

Have just changed LC_ALL to en_US.UTF-8/UTF-8 and get:

dol-sen · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:

Sorry to take so long to get back to you. I saw the post a while back, but was too busy with the christmas season.

Porthole does run using utf8. All .po translation files are utf8 and porthole uses utf8 internally. Translation stuff is new to us, I do know that porthole's installation does create the .mo files from the .po files. Also there is not a en_us translation as it is the original language for porthole.

Perhaps someone knowledgeable about those matters can answer the specifics.
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Cintra · Advocate Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 2111 Location: Norway

Thats OK, thanks for your reply.
I have (to a certain extent) sorted things out with utf-8 now, certainly porthole is working without error messages and with utf-8..
Mvh
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Gentree · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:27 pm Post subject:

Great to see porthole back in business.

Portage is a great way of installing software but lacks an easy way of browsing what is available and getting details from the package.

Porthole is an excellent front-end , thanks.

just compiled on gcc-4.1beta and all seems perfect.
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dol-sen · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:13 am Post subject:

Porthole is all python, so it doesn't matter what gcc you have other than if python compiles and runs with that version of gcc.
There are other dependencies that are compiled with gcc ,such as pygtk and gtk+, etc..

Thank you...

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Gentree · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject:

Well I dont just upgrade my compiler and compile one program! I start by rebuilding the toolchain and all the base libraries like wxGTK (and python) etc. If I didnot I doubt anything would compile and work cleanly.

So what I was trying to say is that portage compiles and runs on a system build using latest gcc-4.1beta.

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kastorff · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:09 pm Post subject:

Well done! I'm hooked on portage's command line, but I've always used Porhole as a portage browser/search-engine, and this is a very nice upgrade.
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yoshi314 · l33t Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 850 Location: PL

actually this thing is awfully slow. i don't really need that much info that 0.5.0 shows, so i guess i'll stick to older version
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Cintra · Advocate Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 2111 Location: Norway

dol-sen · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:

It is due to the info in the packages window. I looked because I thought we had implemented turning off a number of the columns, but I was wrong. It was not yet completed. You can however set what info you wanted in the Summary view. We'll get all those extra columns configureable for the next release. Once in a while on my system the packages list does not show right away, moving the mouse scroll wheel when over its view will cause gtk to draw the screen and the packages will be visible. It seems to be something that gtk does when there are numerous, rapid changes to the info it needs to display.

The next release I have been putting thought into implementing a database of the portage tree which will speed up info retrieval and speed up things again. eix seems to be the favourite lately, but my testing against esearch shows esearch faster when there is a lot of output to the screen. Actually it is quite consistent with times, where eix is much faster with only a few lines to print to the screen. eix slows considerably when there is a screenfull of info to print. Adding esearch or a variation to porthole will be much easier since it is written in python. Also the times should be shorter since the module would be loaded at porthole's start and therefore would not need loading each search. Currently eix does not have a python interface.
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Ravak · n00b Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 54 Location: GB/PL

Possibility to choose a font and encoding for main window would be nice, not to mention language (regardless of set locales).

radagast · Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject:

it's still package masked
i seem to remember a thread which i can't find any more, about 0.5.0 not really being ready for public consumption until a new portage came out. it's up to 2.1 now. are lots of people happily using the unmasked 0.5.0, and should i do it too?

dol-sen · Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:

It has remained masked due to a gtk bug, not because of porthole itself. It works fine with portage-2.1

The bug causes a segfault when you have expanded the dependencies list in the upgrades view, then switch back to one of the other views. The workaround is to force a refresh or re-sort the columns before switching back to the other views.

The irony is that -0.5.0 is way more stable with that one segfault than the older versions that were not hard masked and had several possible segfault cases.

Anyway I have changed the way porthole does some things in cvs that does not have that segfault bug problem. Unfortunately I have been far too busy to work on porthole to complete a number of things and fix the remaining bugs from them.
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wastje · n00b Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 1

the portagelib needs update since it dosent work so well with the new /etc/portage style. are there any hope for this to be fixed in cvs version or will I or maybe someone else have to learn python and help out

porthole is such a nice app. been using it for long now and have so many ideas and shit just never tried to add them =)

dol-sen · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:53 am Post subject:

I've been far too busy to be able to concentrate on code. I have planned out (in my head) what changes I was going to do for the new /etc/potage structure before it was released, but I had understood it wrong (glad I hadn't already coded it)

I'm hoping to get back into some coding again quite soon. Our kids will be back in school, etc..

As for the time being, if you want to use the new /etc/portage features you will have to not use the porthole options to add packages to your keywords file. Since porthole gets its info from portage it should show the proper info.
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Icer · Guru Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 395 Location: @home

I was just reading about gtk, widgets etc. Also previously I read about the ubuntu update system... well actually just saw a picture where they have a button or somekind of icon in the panel. Think about CPU temp or the weather applet in Gnome. I thought why not make porthole able to be attached into the panel as a icon. So one could just press the icon and update system in the background. One would ofcourse be able to open up porthole at anytime to see what's up and use it as before.

So there. What do you think? Would it be difficult to implement?
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dol-sen · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject:

I have already been aproached to add command line parameters for package update requests from the new gnome menu that you see in ubuntu. There are several gentooers working on it. There is a thread in this forum. They have porthole coming up for the package manager and things. I do intend to add aditional command line parameters for porthole to start certain operations, but it may take a little while to get around to. I have had little time to work on porthole code for a while now and it will take a bit of time to get my mind back into it again. I have several things to finish/debug so I can release another version.
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unz · l33t Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 819 Location: Roma, Italia

RMX · n00b Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 66

When I use porthole 0.5 with gksudo, it works great, except for one thing. When I press right button on package list, menu doesn't show up. What's wrong?

dol-sen · Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject: