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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: New Guy installing gentoo x86 on laptop a few questions Reply with quote

Hey guys, I'm installing gentoo x86 on my Dell 2 Gig processor with 1 gig of ram and 80 gig of hard drive space. I'm still installing Gentoo x86 on it, i was up till 2 this morning because its fun to complie, anyways i have a couple of questions.

1) is gentoo going to be a GUI OS when i finish installing, if not how do i get it to do so
2) I'm a little confused when it comes to the make.conf files in nano....do i have to do anything here or is it already done for me?

Thanks for the help
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. It's complete up to you! A basic installation from the handbook with give you a basic console-based installation, continue here if you wish a GUI :arrow: X Server Howto, KDE Howto, Gnome Howto, Fluxbox Howto

2. You have to configure your make.conf for your configuration and architecture. Follow the handbook's instructions and you will have a good and basic configuration. Also search the forums for CFLAGS and USE flags, they come up regularly.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GooRoo363,

When you finish the Install Guide, you will have a system that boots its own kernel and gives you a command prompt.
You will want to install other things on it to make it useful. Gentoo if about choice, unless you have already choosen a GUI, then its not yet installed.

See the Desktop Guides at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml
Bookmark that page - you will need it.

You need to set a few things in /etc/make.conf but the defualts are sensible. Exactly what you need to set depends on your hardware and what software you want to run. You have a file called /etc/make.conf.example which contains most of the options and a lot of commentary to explain what they do.

The way is works, in common with lots of Linux software, is the the defualts are 'hard coded' and entries in /etc/make.conf are only required if you want to change the defualts. There are a few exceptions though.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok cool, but with the make.conf this is where i get a little confuzled. Because the handbook doesnt show you where you should input the data, do you type it in under what is already there??
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ok cool, but with the make.conf this is where i get a little confuzled. Because the handbook doesnt show you where you should input the data, do you type it in under what is already there??


Yes, you replace what is already there with what you want and need for your system. If you tell us which system your laptop is we might help you with the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS. The CHOST setting should already be allright. Additionally you have to set the USE flags, which can be a bit confusing which flags to use. Just read the chapter in the handbook.

edit : If you have a Pentium M Processor you should select the -march=pentium3 setting if you use an older GCC version which is default for the installation CD, if you have upgraded to gcc 3.4.x you should use -march=pentium-m
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok soooo if i understand this right which i think i might, I have a Pentium 4 processor, so i should select the -march=pentium4 setting?

my aim screen name is, gooroo363 if you guys want to chat to me there too

could someone post what there make.conf looks like, i think it may help me out

sorry for being a pest
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GooRoo363,

emerge ufed - thats the Use Flag EDitor, also emerge mirrorselect to choose some fast mirrors near you.
There is a man page for make.conf
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man make.conf
that explains all the settings. The example, shows the syntax.

You cannot use someone elses make.conf. Its contents are hardware and software dependant.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooo k thanks guys, when i get home i'll try what you've all said, i think i'm starting to understand it now

if it doesnt work can i post my laptop specs and the make.conf and have you guys help me out???
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GooRoo363,

Post the output of lspci and emerge --info
That will tell us all about your hardware and your settings so far.
We will also need to to know what software you would like to install
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok will do, i'm trying to look for the commands to get it, and i cant find it, what do i type in for the data?

is ths all i do?

# emerge --info
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GooRoo363,

The commands are
Code:
lspci
emerge --info

You need to
Code:
emerge pciutils
to get lspci, or use the liveCD
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest that as soon as everything is ready you upgrade to gcc 3.4
It speeded up my compile time of kde by 3 whole damn hours.
And since my system was just the bare minimum (no extra installed packages it didn't take that long :)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok which data do you need theres alot to type
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, i just need a wittle help, :?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GooRoo363,

Don't type it - use copy and paste. You can get the data to files with
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lspci > lspci.txt
emerge --info > emerge.info.txt
You can put the files on a USB memory stick or floppy so you can send from another machine, or from Windows on the same machine
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok someone was able to guide me through that part, but now i have another problem

went i run the command

emerge syslog-ng

i get and error:

C compiler cannot create executables
see config.log for more details

???? :?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GooRoo363 wrote:
C compiler cannot create executables

One of the most common causes is a typo in your CFLAGS.

Watch out for -02 vs. -O2. It should be a capital o, not the number zero.
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