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GooRoo363 n00b
Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 22
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: New Guy installing gentoo x86 on laptop a few questions |
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Hey guys, I'm installing gentoo x86 on my Dell 2 Gig processor with 1 gig of ram and 80 gig of hard drive space. I'm still installing Gentoo x86 on it, i was up till 2 this morning because its fun to complie, anyways i have a couple of questions.
1) is gentoo going to be a GUI OS when i finish installing, if not how do i get it to do so
2) I'm a little confused when it comes to the make.conf files in nano....do i have to do anything here or is it already done for me?
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front243 n00b
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 33 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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1. It's complete up to you! A basic installation from the handbook with give you a basic console-based installation, continue here if you wish a GUI X Server Howto, KDE Howto, Gnome Howto, Fluxbox Howto
2. You have to configure your make.conf for your configuration and architecture. Follow the handbook's instructions and you will have a good and basic configuration. Also search the forums for CFLAGS and USE flags, they come up regularly. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54300 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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GooRoo363,
When you finish the Install Guide, you will have a system that boots its own kernel and gives you a command prompt.
You will want to install other things on it to make it useful. Gentoo if about choice, unless you have already choosen a GUI, then its not yet installed.
See the Desktop Guides at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml
Bookmark that page - you will need it.
You need to set a few things in /etc/make.conf but the defualts are sensible. Exactly what you need to set depends on your hardware and what software you want to run. You have a file called /etc/make.conf.example which contains most of the options and a lot of commentary to explain what they do.
The way is works, in common with lots of Linux software, is the the defualts are 'hard coded' and entries in /etc/make.conf are only required if you want to change the defualts. There are a few exceptions though.
Welcome to Gentoo _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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GooRoo363 n00b
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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ok cool, but with the make.conf this is where i get a little confuzled. Because the handbook doesnt show you where you should input the data, do you type it in under what is already there?? |
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front243 n00b
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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GooRoo363 wrote: | ok cool, but with the make.conf this is where i get a little confuzled. Because the handbook doesnt show you where you should input the data, do you type it in under what is already there?? |
Yes, you replace what is already there with what you want and need for your system. If you tell us which system your laptop is we might help you with the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS. The CHOST setting should already be allright. Additionally you have to set the USE flags, which can be a bit confusing which flags to use. Just read the chapter in the handbook.
edit : If you have a Pentium M Processor you should select the -march=pentium3 setting if you use an older GCC version which is default for the installation CD, if you have upgraded to gcc 3.4.x you should use -march=pentium-m |
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GooRoo363 n00b
Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 22
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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ok soooo if i understand this right which i think i might, I have a Pentium 4 processor, so i should select the -march=pentium4 setting?
my aim screen name is, gooroo363 if you guys want to chat to me there too
could someone post what there make.conf looks like, i think it may help me out
sorry for being a pest |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54300 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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GooRoo363,
emerge ufed - thats the Use Flag EDitor, also emerge mirrorselect to choose some fast mirrors near you.
There is a man page for make.conf that explains all the settings. The example, shows the syntax.
You cannot use someone elses make.conf. Its contents are hardware and software dependant. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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GooRoo363 n00b
Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 22
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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ooo k thanks guys, when i get home i'll try what you've all said, i think i'm starting to understand it now
if it doesnt work can i post my laptop specs and the make.conf and have you guys help me out??? |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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GooRoo363,
Post the output of lspci and emerge --info
That will tell us all about your hardware and your settings so far.
We will also need to to know what software you would like to install _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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GooRoo363 n00b
Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 22
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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ok will do, i'm trying to look for the commands to get it, and i cant find it, what do i type in for the data?
is ths all i do?
# emerge --info |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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GooRoo363,
The commands are
Code: | lspci
emerge --info |
You need to to get lspci, or use the liveCD _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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Anon5710 Apprentice
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 232 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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I suggest that as soon as everything is ready you upgrade to gcc 3.4
It speeded up my compile time of kde by 3 whole damn hours.
And since my system was just the bare minimum (no extra installed packages it didn't take that long |
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GooRoo363 n00b
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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ok which data do you need theres alot to type |
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thoffmeyer Apprentice
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to Gentoo _________________ Conrad Guide, Current Maintainer
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GooRoo363 n00b
Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 22
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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thanks, i just need a wittle help, |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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GooRoo363,
Don't type it - use copy and paste. You can get the data to files with
Code: | lspci > lspci.txt
emerge --info > emerge.info.txt | You can put the files on a USB memory stick or floppy so you can send from another machine, or from Windows on the same machine _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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GooRoo363 n00b
Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 22
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:50 am Post subject: |
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ok someone was able to guide me through that part, but now i have another problem
went i run the command
emerge syslog-ng
i get and error:
C compiler cannot create executables
see config.log for more details
???? |
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cyrillic Watchman
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 7313 Location: Groton, Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:26 am Post subject: |
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GooRoo363 wrote: | C compiler cannot create executables |
One of the most common causes is a typo in your CFLAGS.
Watch out for -02 vs. -O2. It should be a capital o, not the number zero. |
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