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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:53 am    Post subject: Stupid qeustion:How long.....[solved] Reply with quote

...does it take to emerge xorg-x11 and gnome with Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz CPU and 256 MB RAM?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on what else is your PC doing. I don't have such setup, but my P4 3Ghz+1G RAM goes from ~35min to ~1h20m in my log.... I use genlop (emerge genlop) to get this info:

Code:

     $ sudo genlop -t xorg-x11 
     :
     Tue Sep 13 11:01:53 2005 >>> x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r3
       merge time: 36 minutes and 23 seconds.

     Sun Sep 18 10:18:35 2005 >>> x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4
       merge time: 36 minutes and 5 seconds.

     Fri Nov 25 19:14:36 2005 >>> x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
       merge time: 37 minutes and 50 seconds.

     Mon Dec 12 16:47:06 2005 >>> x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
       merge time: 46 minutes and 31 seconds.

     Tue Dec 13 00:30:28 2005 >>> x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
       merge time: 1 hour, 16 minutes and 19 seconds.

     Tue Dec 13 15:01:59 2005 >>> x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
       merge time: 1 hour, 21 minutes and 35 seconds.   
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did that almost exactly a year ago... except I have 512MB ram. If I remember correctly, it took 4-5hrs. Unless you plan to use epithany/mozilla (not firefox)/evolution and all the programs that normally ship with gnome, I would just install gnome-light. It just pulls in gnome, no mozilla, no evolution, no xscreensaver... if you want these you can install them yourself later.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erlend wrote:
I did that almost exactly a year ago... except I have 512MB ram. If I remember correctly, it took 4-5hrs. Unless you plan to use epithany/mozilla (not firefox)/evolution and all the programs that normally ship with gnome, I would just install gnome-light. It just pulls in gnome, no mozilla, no evolution, no xscreensaver... if you want these you can install them yourself later.

So would you like to tell me how long does it take to install gnome-light? :)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I'm ran:
Code:
emerge -pv gnome-light | genlop -p

and I get:
Code:
[These are the pretended packages: (this may take a while; wait...)

[ebuild  N    ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.2-r3  +X +bzip2 -caps +curl -ecc -idea -ldap +nls +readline (-selinux) -smartcard -static -usb +zlib 2,823 kB
[ebuild  N    ] www-client/mozilla-1.7.12-r2  +crypt -debug -gnome -ipv6 +java -ldap -mozcalendar +mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft +mozsvg -postgres +ssl +truetype -xinerama -xprint 30,407 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.2.1  -debug 278 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-extra/yelp-2.10.0  -debug -firefox 772 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libxklavier-2.0  -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-wm/metacity-2.10.3  -debug -static -xinerama 1,645 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/control-center-2.10.2  +alsa -debug +gstreamer -static 2,767 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/gnome-session-2.10.0-r3  -debug -esd -ipv6 854 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.10.0  -debug 2,279 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/gnome-light-2.10  0 kB

!!! Error: couldn't get previous merge of gnome-doc-utils; skipping...

Estimated update time: 49 minutes.


Last time I emerged gnome-light was back at 2.8 - so it might be quite different. Also, I run xfce4, so I have some of the gnome-light libs installed, and they aren't included in the above. I think you're looking at it taking about 1-2hrs.

Predicting the time a package will take is almost impossible - other factors come into play: USE flags, CFLAGs...

Hope this helps,

Erlend

PS: why are you asking how long it will take?
PPS: if you haven't installed xorg-x11 yet I would do that - otherwise it'll get pulled in as a dependancy of whatever desktop-environment you use. If you later remove that desktop environment xorg-x11 might get picked up by emerge --depclean
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all the people who answered my problem (or just clicked to see the post) :)
My machine can't be run for more than 6 hours a day,it's too crazy for me,a secondary student
I've heard that install a Desktop Environment(DE) will take a whole day,so I wanted to ensure it's true or not,if it's true,I may use a WM instead of a DE
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's because you need to be using your computer (i.e. you can't go without using the computer for 6 hours), then try one of the following...

1. Use the Knoppix install method: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml

2. First install xorg-x11, will take up to about an hour on your machine. You get an extremely simple window manager with it (tvwm or something like that). Start the xserver, and run what you want. Emerge your DE on tty1. If you find you need to turn your computer off just Ctrl+C the emerge, then "emerge --resume" when you turn on again. It'll start from where it left off.

xfce4, openbox, fluxbox and all the really simple window-manager ones compile in practically minutes.
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