Get help on partitioning here [Part 2]

jmbsvicetto · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:15 am Post subject:

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XenoTerraCide · Veteran Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 1418 Location: MI, USA

wish I could. cant say as I'm know that. but at least I know it's not a screwy screen setting.
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Mathiasdm · n00b Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 24

I want to create a dual-boot (Windows and Gentoo), but the first 1024 sectors (or cilinders, or whatever they're called :-P

) are occupied by Windows.

If I put a /boot (not in the first 1024 cilinders), will I be able to boot from it?

Can grub arrange this? :oops:

wrc1944 · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject:

You should be OK. When you install Gentoo, and put grub in the mbr (master boot record), it will overwrite the windows boot loader. Your windows partition (C: drive) will be called hda1, and the Gentoo /boot partition will be on another hdax partition. Don't worry about the 1024 sector stuff- it won't matter. To boot windows from grub, you'll need to edit your grub.conf file after you install grub, and put an fstab line entry for windows, on /dev/hdax (probably hda1 if you have a normal windows installation on your hard disk.
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Mathiasdm · n00b Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 24

Ah, wonderful :-)

Thank you very much!

Mathiasdm · n00b Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 24

Does /swap have to be primary?
I already have 2 primary Windows partitions.
I can't have both /boot AND swap as primary :oops:

XenoTerraCide · Veteran Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 1418 Location: MI, USA

no. my swap on both of my gentoo box's is on a logical drive.
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wrc1944 · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject:

If you're dual-booting with windows, and as long as you install grub to the mbr, Linux doesn't actually require any primary partitions for anything. Windows does need a primary and bootable partition, which is usually hda1, and is the least complicated way to do it. However, if you must install grub somewhere else for some specific reason I'm unaware of (I wouldn't recommend it, and never have myself), it probably must be installed on a primary bootable partition.

I don't recommend using lilo as a boot-loader (haven't for years), as I think it still must be installed to a primary partition (not sure on this- it might have changed since I last used it), and it's generally just more trouble if you compile kernels often, as I do.
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arpegiator · n00b Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 1

just wandering over from another forum(PClinuxOS).i've used lilo for years now and never had any problems with it and it doesn't have to be installed on a primary partition.you can install it where ever you want.

wrc1944 · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject:

I haven't used lilo for years, so maybe I wasn't remembering correctly about it having to be installed on a primary partition. I never had any lilo problems either, and it's a perfectly good solution, but when I started testing lots of kernels I got tired of having to run lilo everytime, and when I went to Gentoo as my main distro, I just went with grub.
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playahater · Guru Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 382 Location: Serbia

Hi there ...

I have already installed gentoo .. but since it hasn`t been updated for almost half a year, i`ve decided to do a reinstall. Right now i have minimum partitions .. one boot, one swap and root ( / ) under reiserfs.
Now .. i`ve been reading that it would be wise to separate a partion which has a lot of "data trafic" from root partition ( / ) ... like constant delete/write of files such as dvd/divx movies. music etc.
I`ve been thinking and i`m not sure how to do a partition table .. I have a 120GB hdd .. dunno, maybe beside boot,root and swap, to put home and "stuff" on a separate partition ..

sda1 = 40M => boot
sda2 = 500M => swap
sda3 = 10G => /
sda4 = 10G => home
sda5 = ~100G => "stuff"
or maybe to merge home and stuff under one separate partition and call it home .. :roll:

Since i haven`t home,var,tmp .. on separate partition, i dunno how much space i heed for something like that ..

So .. i was wondering if you have any advice ( or useful link ) concerning partitioning and file system ( maybe to put root under ext3 and rest under reiserfs .. dunno )

10x in advance

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Sade · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject:

first: u could just update and don't re-install, even if you wan't to remodel your partition layout it's possible without reinstall, in that case u need to make a stage4.
second: if you reinstall plz do a stage3, stage1 is merely there to be formal
third:

i use a 150mb boot space, it has never been near full
if u want to hibernate u need a swap that's bigger than your RAM
the 10G root partition is a good choice,
and for the read/write partition and the stuff partitions:
i would make the home partition bigger, because of the fact that p2p progs take a lot of temp-space.
and somethimes u wan't to format your stuff partition and then u won't have space to put your stuff.
and it doesn't realy matter if some of your stuff is on you home partition.

anyway, partitioning is a matter of taste. one tip though: never make your partitions the same size.
if you wan't to make 2 10gb partitions make one 9gb and one 11gb so u can easily identify them in any partition editor.
in linux you won't have troubles with this but there are some rescue cd's (and other os-es) that mix up the sequence.

fourth:
there are a lot of topic's like these, so plz search around a bit on this forum
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playahater · Guru Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 382 Location: Serbia

First .. 10x for fast reply ..

Deathwing00 · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:01 am Post subject:

Merged
"advice concerning partitioning 120GB hdd"
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"Get help on partitioning here [Part 2]"

nemectic · Apprentice Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 182

New laptop /dev/sda1=80G windows.

Quick question, if I wipe the partition table and just create a new partition with fdisk, does that leave windows intact?

It's been over a year since I last installed, and I can't remember for the life of me, I thought fdisk had a resize option

Cheers, H!

VinzC · Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:19 am Post subject:

Elegiac · n00b Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 56

I'm going to be reinstalling Gentoo soon, but I have a few questions first. I've put together what I think is a good partition scheme. Here it is:

playahater · Guru Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 382 Location: Serbia

hmm .. one question ..

why would anyone need 1Gb of swap ?? ..

in my opinion, if you have more than 256Mb of RAM, you do not need more then 512Mb of swap .. and not to mention if you have more RAM .. :roll:

am i right ??
that much of space will never be used .. so .. why? .. :wink:

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Elegiac · n00b Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 56

I'm one to do many things at once. I've decided 1 GB for swap is enough to ensure I have enough without being too excessive. I forgot to mention that I have 500 MB RAM. I tend to use swap somewhat often -- usually around 200 - 300 MB, but it's always nice to have a little extra room just-in-case.

Brian

VinzC · Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:40 am Post subject:

adakadavule · n00b Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Chennai,India

Sorry for sounding dumb.I am new to linux and have decided to try out gentoo.I have a 40 gb drive with 2 partitions c,d of 20gb each.I have 6.63gb and 3.25 gb free on c and d respectively.I need the windows os and i have important data on d.How do i go about?I plan to use the graphic installer as i am new to linux. Please help me.
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adakadavule · n00b Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Chennai,India

Forgive me if i appear too dumb,but i am new to linux (and i don know wat linux looks like!)
Ok,Now i hav crammed all the data into empty dvds and c drive.Now i hav a empty d drive(20GB),How do i split it into two partitions of 10gb each so i can have gentoo on one and common files(music,data etc )on the second.
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VinzC · Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: How to split 10 gb

adakadavule · n00b Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Chennai,India

suppose i install gentoo on 10 gb and find it ok,can i remove windows and expand the space used by linux
:!:

One more thing ,i use turbo c++ for programming,can i use it in gentoo.
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