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mrnegitoro
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 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: 2.6.15 Gentoo Sources NTFS write support |
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Hi,
I have upgraded to the Gentoo Sources 2.6.15 Kernel because I read that it has better NTFS write support. However, I still can't seem to write to my NTFS mount.
I'm mounting the NTFS drive in my fstab like so:
| Code: | | /dev/hdb1 /mnt/200L ntfs user,rw 0 0 |
The mount shows up like this:
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drwx------ 1 root root 4.0K Jan 12 13:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 224 Dec 16 09:09 ..
drwx------ 1 root root 0 May 19 2005 RECYCLER
drwx------ 1 root root 4.0K Apr 23 2005 System Volume Information
drwx------ 1 root root 48K Dec 14 2004 movies
drwx------ 1 root root 208K Jan 1 2005 soulseek
drwx------ 1 root root 20K Mar 6 2005 torrent_dls
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But I can't delete or copy anything to it.
Here is my kernel .config regarding NTFS support:
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CONFIG_NTFS_FS=y
# CONFIG_NTFS_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_NTFS_RW=y
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Do I have to enable something else in my kernel? I have actually never had any problems with NTFS write support using the 2.6.X kernels. This only started when I installed a new Gentoo box with a 2.6.12-x kernel in early Dec. 2005.
Thanks for any help! |
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i92guboj
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Do you have permissions to write into /mnt/200L? If not "chmod a+w /mnt/200L".
EDIT: Anyway, if you intend to do something serious I have heared that sys-fs/captive has far better support the ntfs than the linux kernel drivers (but cant confirm it myself). |
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mrnegitoro
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Yup, I have permissions.
I have tried mounting it in different ways ie) mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hb1 /mnt/200L and also writing to it as the root user.
I always get:
"Permission denied"
Ugh.
Do you think if I didn't set the drive (it's a whole drive formatted as NTFS) as a slave drive that would cause a problem like this? I think I may have set the jumper wrong for some reason. |
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i92guboj
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Well, I can't discard anything since my experience with ntfs under linux systems in not so big (and not too recent either), but that would scare my so much. Having the drive as slave or master should have nothing to do with that. Your mount command seems fine and all that stuff. Do you have compression, encription or any other esoteric ntfs feature enabled on that drive? I'm not sure if that would affect or not (I'd bet yes) but is the only thing I can think of right now.
If I can think of anything more I will post here...  |
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Shazam
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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as far as i know, the 'write' support in this kernel allows you to shrink and grow files, and write to them, no more. you cannot create or delete a file und the partition.
I use captive as already mentioned, for writing to ntfs partition. however, it is a real slow process, i don't know why, but if you intend to copy bigger files onto a windows volume, make it vfat. |
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i92guboj
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Shazam wrote: | as far as i know, the 'write' support in this kernel allows you to shrink and grow files, and write to them, no more. you cannot create or delete a file und the partition.
I use captive as already mentioned, for writing to ntfs partition. however, it is a real slow process, i don't know why, but if you intend to copy bigger files onto a windows volume, make it vfat. |
That is the only real solution. The one I choose. Anyway, and even if captive's is safe (which I dont really know) I would not risk my data if it is important. I preffer to use vfat. |
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mrnegitoro
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
Ok thanks I will try captive again. I have already tried it and it wasn't working:
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fusermount: mount failed: Invalid argument
Captive-ERROR **: FUSE fuse_setup() failed!
You may need Linux kernel 2.6.14 or higher with its 'fuse.ko' enabled.
You may also need to install or upgrade 'fuse' package to your system.
aborting...
Captive-WARNING **: CORBA Exception occured: id="IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0", value=0x80bd0a4
aborting...
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I don't think I enabled FUSE in my kernel. I though that would create the kernel module.
Nothing like recompiling your kernel 90 times.
Thanks for the help! |
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i92guboj
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, just emerge sys-fs/fuse (theres also app-emulation/fuse that has nothing to do with this), and then modprobe fuse. If you intend to use that regularly you can also add the module to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
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jza
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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So just to verify (since i'm getting the same error), you need to build fuse support into the kernel AND download sys-fs/fuse?
thanks! |
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i92guboj
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| jza wrote: | So just to verify (since i'm getting the same error), you need to build fuse support into the kernel AND download sys-fs/fuse?
thanks! |
No, just one of them. Is like to choose between buil-in alsa support or to compile the alsa-driver package. |
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mrnegitoro
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: |
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You only have to do one or the other.
The guide I read (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NTFS_write_with_Captive_approach) doesn't mention anything about building the module when compiling your Kernel, just to emerge sys-fs/fuse.
I have tried:
1) emerge sys-fs/fuse
2) building the module when compiling my Kernel
3) both at the same time
Non of it works, I get the same error each time. I gave up, I'm saving all the info I must have from the NTFS drive and I'm going to wipe it out and format it as ext3 or reiserfs or something else.
Very frustrating! I swear around the 2.8.1 Kernel I could write to NTFS no problem. Ah well, good luck, post back here if you make it work.
Thanks! |
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xbb
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| If you need to share a partition with windows, better you use ext2 or ext3 and install the drivers to access them from windows read/write (works very nice). By the way you can't install windows on ext2/ext3. |
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w00ter
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I can fully recommend using ext3 as a shared linux/windowsxp disk. Been looking into this question lately, bought a new HD and formatted it completely into ext3 partitions. There are quite a few drivers for WinXp out there for ext2 meaning you can use the ext3 partitions just fine. It works transparently here, explorer showing my disks fine and no problems writing to them or reading from them. |
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jza
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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well, mine just magically started working today. I did it w/o needing to enable support in the kernel.
The only difference this time vs. yesterday is that yesterday (it was mounted and) didn't want to unmount (it said the device was busy) so I had just tried doing:
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umount -o remount -t captive-ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt/win
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Today, I did the following:
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mount -o remount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt/win
umount /mnt/win
mount -t captive-ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt/win
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Hopefully I won't experience any problems |
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jza
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| i just finished transfering 1.5GB (from a reiserfs partition) and it took over an hour. Is this normal? |
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w00ter
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Try searching for "ntfs captive slow" on this forum.
For all I know (never got captive to work here) it's dead slow and for me the reason not to go ntfs-captive. |
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__g_blade
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: Transport endpoint not connected |
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hi
i have captive 1.1.7 installed on gentoo-sources 2.6.15-r5
my NTFS HD is /dev/hdb5 mounted on /win
fuse module loaded, fuse-2.5.2 emerged
because kernel ntfs doesn't support full access i want captive now
but.......
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localhost apps # rm win
winamp/ winscp3/
localhost apps # rm -rf winscp3/
localhost apps # ls
AvantGo Connect ad.aware.se.prof alcohol att clone.cd filezilla java nero.7.premium winamp
activesync adobe.reader.7.0.5 antiblaxx avi2dvd daemon.tools.4 google.earth musicbrainz steam
localhost apps # ls -ali winamp
total 1684
19 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Nov 25 13:55 .
2 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Feb 25 14:08 ..
39 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 110592 Nov 18 19:22 PXSDKPLS.dll
38 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Dec 2 08:46 Plugins
40 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Nov 18 19:26 Skins
43 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 45143 Dec 7 21:24 UninstWA.exe
49 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4587 Nov 18 19:23 Winamp.q1
37 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38912 Nov 18 19:22 demo.mp3
41 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15913 Dec 2 19:13 studio.xnf
42 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 258352 Nov 18 19:22 unicows.dll
44 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20244 Nov 18 19:22 whatsnew.txt
45 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1162240 Dec 7 21:24 winamp.exe
46 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7106 Dec 2 19:13 winamp.ini
47 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 413 Nov 18 19:22 winamp.lks
48 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 63 Dec 2 19:12 winamp.m3u
50 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33792 Dec 7 21:23 winampa.exe
51 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3296 Nov 18 19:22 winampmb.htm
localhost apps # ls -ali adobe.reader.7.0.5/
total 0
6 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Nov 18 19:07 .
2 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Feb 25 14:08 ..
52 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Nov 18 19:07 ActiveX
53 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Nov 18 19:07 Esl
54 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Nov 18 19:06 Help
55 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Nov 18 19:07 Reader
56 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Nov 18 19:07 Resource
localhost apps # rm -rf winamp/
rm: cannot remove `winamp//Plugins/avs/Community Picks/Zevensoft - Ocean4.avs': Software caused connection abort
rm: reading directory `winamp//Plugins/avs/Community Picks': Transport endpoint is not connected
rm: cannot lstat `.' in `winamp//Plugins/avs': Transport endpoint is not connected
(process:6726): Captive-ERROR (recursed) **: CORBA Exception occured: id="IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0", value=0x8058694
aborting...
localhost apps # ls
ls: .: Transport endpoint is not connected
localhost apps #
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my fstab
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# <fs> <mountpoint> <type> <opts> <dump/pass>
# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults,noatime 1 2
/dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hda3 / ext3 noatime 0 1
/dev/hdb5 /win captive-ntfs defaults,users,gid=users,umask=0002,iocharset=iso8859-15,noatime 0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/dvdrom iso9660 auto 0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 auto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto auto 0 0
# NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
# glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
# POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
# (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
# use almost no memory if not populated with files)
shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0
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doesn't mount automatically
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mount -t captive-ntfs /dev/hdb5 /win
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works at first time after boot
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frank1980
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My system is gentoo 2005.1 kde3.5.1 (amd64)
when I ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge captive, then:
| Quote: | make[11]: *** [irql.lo] ERRO 1
make[11]: *** ÕýÔڵȴýδÍê³ÉµÄÈÎÎñ....
../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/iotypes.h:991: warning: `__stdcall__' attribute ignored
../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/iotypes.h:1034: warning: `__stdcall__' attribute ignored
../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/iotypes.h:1046: warning: `__stdcall__' attribute ignored
../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/iotypes.h:1057: warning: `__stdcall__' attribute ignored
In file included from ../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/ntddk.h:69,
from fmutex.c:15:
../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/extypes.h:85: warning: `__stdcall__' attribute ignored
In file included from ../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/ntifs.h:24,
from ../../../../../reactos/include/ntos.h:55,
from ../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ntoskrnl.h:12,
from ../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/debug.h:21,
from fmutex.c:17:
../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/cctypes.h:49: warning: `__stdcall__' attribute ignored
../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/cctypes.h:57: warning: `__stdcall__' attribute ignored
../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/cctypes.h:66: warning: `__stdcall__' attribute ignored
../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/cctypes.h:74: warning: `__stdcall__' attribute ignored
../../../../../reactos/include/ddk/cctypes.h:101: warning: `__stdcall__' attribute ignored
In file included from ../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ke.h:30,
from ../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ntoskrnl.h:14,
from ../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/debug.h:21,
from fmutex.c:17:
../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/arch/ke.h:25:2: #error "Unknown processor"
In file included from ../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ntoskrnl.h:14,
from ../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/debug.h:21,
from fmutex.c:17:
../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ke.h:56: error: syntax error before "PKTRAP_FRAME"
../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ke.h:83: error: syntax error before "TrapFrame"
../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ke.h:89: error: syntax error before "PKTRAP_FRAME"
../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ke.h:92: error: syntax error before "TrapFrame"
../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ke.h:99: error: syntax error before "Tf"
../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ke.h:110: error: syntax error before "PKTRAP_FRAME"
../../../../../reactos/ntoskrnl/include/internal/ke.h:113: error: syntax error before "Tf"
make[11]: *** [fmutex.lo] ERRO 1
make[11]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs/src/libcaptive/reactos/hal/halx86'
make[10]: *** [all] ERRO 2
make[10]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs/src/libcaptive/reactos/hal/halx86'
make[9]: *** [all-recursive] ERRO 1
make[9]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs/src/libcaptive/reactos/hal'
make[8]: *** [all] ERRO 2
make[8]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs/src/libcaptive/reactos/hal'
make[7]: *** [all-recursive] ERRO 1
make[7]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs/src/libcaptive/reactos'
make[6]: *** [all] ERRO 2
make[6]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs/src/libcaptive/reactos'
make[5]: *** [all-recursive] ERRO 1
make[5]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs/src/libcaptive'
make[4]: *** [all] ERRO 2
make[4]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs/src/libcaptive'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] ERRO 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs/src'
make[2]: *** [all] ERRO 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] ERRO 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/captive-1.1.7/work/captive-1.1.7cvs'
make: *** [all] ERRO 2
!!! ERROR: sys-fs/captive-1.1.7 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1928: Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 966: Called src_compile
!!! emake failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant.
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Cornflake
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| Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:06 am Post subject: Writing to Windows Partition |
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Can I write to files on my windows partition?
I mounted it to /mnt/windows, and I can view the files, copy them, etc. But I would like to be able to write to the partition. Whenever I try it says the partition is read only. Is there any way around this?
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CptnObvious999
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| if you cannot write to it I am guessing it is formated with NTFS so you should install captive or enable read/write ntfs support in the kernel (when you run make menuconfig or genkernel --menuconfig) |
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Cornflake
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Thanks! Where can I find this option?
Nevermind, found it. |
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CptnObvious999
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Filesystems > DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems > NTFS write support
if you reboot and remount and still can't write to it post your /etc/fstab file and run "mount" and give us the output
EDIT: oh ok you found it X-D |
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dmsnell
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| has the ntfs write support been extended? last time I checked you could only modify existing files, but not create new files nor delete old ones |
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Cornflake
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| CptnObvious999 wrote: | Filesystems > DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems > NTFS write support
if you reboot and remount and still can't write to it post your /etc/fstab file and run "mount" and give us the output
EDIT: oh ok you found it X-D |
I still cant write ><
/dev/hda2 /boot ext2 defaults,noatime $/dev/hda4 / ext3 noatime 0 1
/dev/hda3 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user,ro 0 0
#/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec $
mount:
/dev/hda4 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
/dev/hda2 on /boot type ext2 (rw,noatime)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=85)
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/windoze type ntfs (rw) |
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Cornflake
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| dmsnell wrote: | | has the ntfs write support been extended? last time I checked you could only modify existing files, but not create new files nor delete old ones |
This is within what I need to do anyway  |
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