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sedorox
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| Cinder6 wrote: | sedorox:
Check out the OP for an explanation on reiser4. |
Yes, I know... I'm just saying with my experiences.. because when I first read it.. it sounds like the newer kernels won't mount the older made R4.... but yea... |
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Cinder6
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| sedorox wrote: | | Cinder6 wrote: | sedorox:
Check out the OP for an explanation on reiser4. |
Yes, I know... I'm just saying with my experiences.. because when I first read it.. it sounds like the newer kernels won't mount the older made R4.... but yea... |
Actually, it looks like the note *is* somewhat wrong. If you use any kernel >=2.6.14, you will not be able to mount reiser4 partitions on anything older than 2.6.12 (so far from what I've read).
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sedorox
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:05 am Post subject: |
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in my experience.. if you used 2.6.12 or higher, you can't mount with anything then lower then 2.6.12. *shrugs* I dunno, this is what I get from being a early adopter of stuff :p
Also, I seemed to be wrong, VMWare didn't compile, I had to apply the patch that Tiger gave, and now it works perfect (I _Think_ it was also causing problems with ati-drivers.. was either that or the cisco vpn client.. I'll let you know on next reboot :p) |
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| Tiger683 wrote: | | bollucks wrote: | | leaving the default mem split works with vmware - be that whether you use the 1GB lowmem patch or the new vmsplit patch, provided you leave the default settings. |
Haven't looked at the config script, right?
To determine whether the page_offset is right, it uses a perl script which basically compares the value in
header against 0xC0000000, and ... SURPRISE! ... it finds some strange (for the script that is) CONFIG_BLABLA voodo,
which makes EVERY config value selected not suitable.
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ugh that's worse than just not supporting different splits. Well hope they fix that soon, and support different splits. |
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HecHacker1
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| Phlogiston wrote: | | HecHacker1 wrote: | w00t! This nitro works great for my laptop. The new NO_IDLE_HZ makes my laptop silent because before I would have to disable my lower powerstates (c3, c4) in order to get rid of the buzz from poor quality capacitors. But now since the laptop isn't being polled every tick it is silent!
Should save me some battery life too.
btw, is there any chance we could get the speedstep voltage patch?
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Undervolt_a_Pentium_M_CPU
thanks for the patchset. so far everything has been stable and fast. A lot of things that wouldn't compile before somehow "just work". |
So it's a Thinkpad Lappy, isnt't it? What Model? If this is that effective with that undervolting, I'll also try it.
Have a nice day! |
dell 700m. Pentium M Dothan 1.7GHz. My computer is undervolted stable at 1052mV - 700mV. I just gradually bring down the values in the middle (by 16mV steps). |
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Phlogiston
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hey Tiger: I have some strange news here. A friend of mine is using debian on the similar notebook and it seems that everything is working: Dma on his drive, standby without problems 
As is looks like he is using scsi emulation, so the drive is /dev/sdc, but is pointing to /dev/sr0. Also ide-cdrom modules are used. Ther kernel is an old 2.6.12 one.
So what does this mean? The new patches are crap? Are what am I doing wrong? =)
Probably I'll try with scsi emulation?
greets Phlogiston
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| Phlogiston wrote: | hey Tiger: I have some strange news here. A friend of mine is using debian on the similar notebook and it seems that everything is working: Dma on his drive, standby without problems
As is looks like he is using scsi emulation, so the drive is /dev/sdc, but is pointing to /dev/sr0. Also ide-cdrom modules are used. Ther kernel is an old 2.6.12 one.
So what does this mean? The new patches are crap? Are what am I doing wrong? =)
Probably I'll try with scsi emulation?
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You have answered your qustion yourself: he uses a 2.6.12 kernel
Regarding the fact that the patches i included are official libata updates (already included in git upstream :/ ), you're hosed anyways unless it gets fixed sometime soon...upstream also 
I cannot exclude them as they contain driver for my raidcard which, by default, isn't in 2.6.15 vanilla's libata
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| Tiger683 wrote: |
You have answered your qustion yourself: he uses a 2.6.12 kernel
Regarding the fact that the patches i included are official libata updates (already included in git upstream :/ ), you're hosed anyways unless it gets fixed sometime soon...upstream also
I cannot exclude them as they contain driver for my raidcard which, by default, isn't in 2.6.15 vanilla's libata |
Hmm thats sad 
Because I don't like to switch back
So we'll wait... I think...
Thanks anyway.
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I, for the life of me, cannot find reiser4 support in the kernel config. It's not under filesystems, nor is it under nitro features. Am I blind or what?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| bigbob73 wrote: | | I, for the life of me, cannot find reiser4 support in the kernel config. It's not under filesystems, nor is it under nitro features. Am I blind or what? |
Mine is the 3rd option down in the Nitro menu, also, make sure you don't have "use 4kb stacks instead of 8kb" in the kernel debug menu. |
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| sedorox wrote: | | bigbob73 wrote: | | I, for the life of me, cannot find reiser4 support in the kernel config. It's not under filesystems, nor is it under nitro features. Am I blind or what? |
Mine is the 3rd option down in the Nitro menu, also, make sure you don't have "use 4kb stacks instead of 8kb" in the kernel debug menu. |
Reiser4 _IS_ compatible with 4K Stacks since quite some time now
btw, it IS in nitro menu, i don't want to imply anyone being blind though.... 
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sedorox
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger683 wrote: | | sedorox wrote: |
Mine is the 3rd option down in the Nitro menu, also, make sure you don't have "use 4kb stacks instead of 8kb" in the kernel debug menu. |
Reiser4 _IS_ compatible with 4K Stacks since quite some time now
btw, it IS in nitro menu, i don't want to imply anyone being blind though.... |
Ah.. haven't tried with the 4kb stacks... *shrugs* I just normally stick with what I know works, unless I'm feeling dangerous :p |
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bigbob73
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger683 wrote: | | sedorox wrote: | | bigbob73 wrote: | | I, for the life of me, cannot find reiser4 support in the kernel config. It's not under filesystems, nor is it under nitro features. Am I blind or what? |
Mine is the 3rd option down in the Nitro menu, also, make sure you don't have "use 4kb stacks instead of 8kb" in the kernel debug menu. |
Reiser4 _IS_ compatible with 4K Stacks since quite some time now
btw, it IS in nitro menu, i don't want to imply anyone being blind though.... |
just installed 2.6.15-nitro3. I'll check it out tonight. I'm doing a conrad install now. hopefully it will be through compiling tonight.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Just compiled it, and its works fine. |
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carpman
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Hello, ok running new kernel and all seems ok except cpufreqd. I have it set so that when at idle it runs at lowest speed and when under load it goes up in stages.
Now if run cpu intensive, rip cd/emerge, it starts off at max but then drops back down to lowest even though ripping is still taking place, it will go to higest if i change window or open app though.
I thought it should stay at max until ripping/emerge is finished?
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tagwar
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I found the "conservative" governor to be quite good for these tasks.. no need for an extra cpufreqd... |
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THis might be unrelated to nitro .. but since I use it its out of the realm of normal gentoo support but with regard to the framebuffer.
I'm using nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r2, vesafb-tng with 1680x1050@70, xfce4 svn, gcc-4.0.2, ~x86
my grub line is
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.15-nitro3 root=/dev/hda4 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1680x1050@70 splash=verbose,fadein,theme:emergence resume2=swap:/dev/hda3
initrd /boot/fbsplash-livecd-2005.1
the problem I see is that on shutdown, the screen goes a little screwy (many horizontal lines) but it shuts down properly. also, after coming out of xscreensaver the desktop is a little odd as well color wise and such. looks like the console image is somehow overlayed with X... i'll get a screen shot next time it happens. Moving to console (i.e. ctrl-alt-f1) where my pretty image is and back to X (alt-f7) fixes the issue after coming out of xscreensaver.
i'm not 100% sure about that grub line
could this be nvidia? or nitro? or framebuffer in 2.6.15? or my grub line?
Update:
screenshot isn't nearly as distorted as the sceen actually looks which makes me think nvidia (maybe xfce4), here it is anyway
http://www.tripthelight.net/2006-01-18-003401_1680x1050_scrot.png
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| CoffeeBuzz wrote: |
the problem I see is that on shutdown, the screen goes a little screwy (many horizontal lines) but it shuts down properly. also, after coming out of xscreensaver the desktop is a little odd as well color wise and such. looks like the console image is somehow overlayed with X... i'll get a screen shot next time it happens. Moving to console (i.e. ctrl-alt-f1) where my pretty image is and back to X (alt-f7) fixes the issue after coming out of xscreensaver.
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I sometimes get it with vanilla too,
also with older kernels like 2.6.13 or 2.6.14, in fact even more often than 2.6.15, which,
in any derivation, fixed it for me....strange....
Can you try to add "pmipal" to vesafb options ?
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| tagwar wrote: | | I found the "conservative" governor to be quite good for these tasks.. no need for an extra cpufreqd... |
same here, but it behaved buggy sometimes. Seems to be solved in latest kernel.
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Using userspace daemons for such lowlevel hardware fiddling isn't a good idea anyway as long as there is support for same functionality in kernel. If you app exits, hangs or segfaults for example, it can leave your
hardware settings quite messed up.....
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| sedorox wrote: | | bigbob73 wrote: | | I, for the life of me, cannot find reiser4 support in the kernel config. It's not under filesystems, nor is it under nitro features. Am I blind or what? |
Mine is the 3rd option down in the Nitro menu, also, make sure you don't have "use 4kb stacks instead of 8kb" in the kernel debug menu. |
Well, I think I tracked it down to a bad .config I used. I started from scratch this time and all is well  Thanks!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Hi Tiger!
New Nitro-2.6.15-r3 compiled fine here on ppc, but won´t boot.
Freezing the system after :
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Any ideas?
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Does anybody experience Xorg (6.9) starts eating 100% CPU after about 24 hours of continuous running? After restarting X everything backs to normal for another 24 hours.
Happens with all 2.6.15-nitros. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Hello Tiger!
i have some fs problems on ext3 partition with 2.6.15-nitro2 so i take look at -nitro3 and its hang fs check on boot like before (error msg in -nitro2 topic).
i think problem is 2.6.15 or some patchs so i tested also 2.6.15-gentoo sources. and now its boot fine. kernel config almost same as nitro. the ext3 partition is just basic not tuned (tune2fs).
if you want some some detail let me know. also tryed your method mount -o remount,ro /dev/sda4 and then fsck but it doesnt help. always when i using -nitro2/3 getting more bad i_blocks value to ext3 partition. i was thinking conver ext3 to reiserfs avoid this problem and can again use fast kernel as nitro. |
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Still works great.. I was just wondering one thing what should i use in the memorysplit? I have 1.5 gb ddr2 memorys.. I have chosen 3G/1G user/kernel split
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