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Raffi
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 Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject: SOLVED: What replaces /usr/bin/xpdf when you switch to poppl |
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I have used the xpdf executable from the xpdf ebuild almost exclusively for viewing pdfs. It is fast and works well most of the time. Now that things are switching to poppler, I found that no xpdf binary is emerged. What viewer replaces it? I really don't want to load in gnome or kde just to get a pdf viewer (ie. I don't want to use kpdf or gpdf). Is there a reason not to have xpdf?
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CorpseOfMystic
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| The whole point of libpoppler is that it is a library, not an application. If you want xpdf, then install xpdf, not libpoppler. There are a couple good reasons to not use xpdf. First, it sucks. It lacks a lot of features. Individual xpdf branches embedded in other apps included much more. In particular kpdf's xpdf is much more powerful, and they are migrating those features into libpoppler, meaning other viewers like evince can use them. okular is by far the best pdf/generic viewer available. Worse, xpdf is extremely insecure. libpoppler is slightly less problematic. More people will be working on libpoppler so fixes will probably make it into xpdf later. I suggest you swallow your pride and install a better pdf viewer. |
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Raffi
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: SOLVED: What replaces /usr/bin/xpdf when you switch to poppl |
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Ahh... I did not realize that the new xpdf would work. I thought it was still blocked. Thanks.
My dislike of kpdf is not a pride thing, I just don't want to add bloat on my system when it is unnecessary. |
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Gentree
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | | [blocks B ] <app-text/xpdf-3.01-r4 (is blocking app-text/poppler-0.4.3-r4) |
it's not xpdf which is blocked it xpdf which is blocking poppler , which is being called for by the new cups ebuild.
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emerge -u -t cups
[ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r7 [1.1.23-r4]
[ebuild N ] app-text/poppler-0.4.3-r4
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Blocked does not mean package does not work, its a dependancy clash.
If you wish to continue using such a suckky pdf viewer that you are satisfied with rather than installing serveral hundred megs of software so that you can have a "much more powerful one", you could mask the new cups version in /etc/portage/package.mask unless you think there's something you need in the newer one.
There was a security issue in xpdf about a year or two ago, gksa-check does not show any current issues. You'd certainly expose yourself to more issues than that in a similar period if you installed the whole kde outfit ,
HTH 
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Raffi
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| Gentree wrote: |
Blocked does not mean package does not work, its a dependancy clash.
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This I already knew. What I did not know is that the updated xpdf used poppler instead of its own stuff.
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If you wish to continue using such a suckky pdf viewer that you are satisfied with rather than installing serveral hundred megs of software so that you can have a "much more powerful one", you could mask the new cups version in /etc/portage/package.mask unless you think there's something you need in the newer one.
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Or better yet, just re-emerge xpdf after you emerge poppler.
As far as loading several hundred megs of software I don't need except for a pdf viewer, I'd rather load Acrobat. It's under 100Meg (though not by much). |
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Gentree
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | What I did not know is that the updated xpdf used poppler instead of its own stuff. |
Neither did I , I misunderstood your post. Thanks for pointing that out.
My other remark was just a retorque to the silly swallow your pride comment above. 
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CalPaterson
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| CorpseOfMystic wrote: | | okular is by far the best pdf/generic viewer available. |
I'm willing to try it, but i can't find it in portage. Can you tell me what the packagename is? |
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CorpseOfMystic
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| CalPaterson wrote: | | CorpseOfMystic wrote: | | okular is by far the best pdf/generic viewer available. |
I'm willing to try it, but i can't find it in portage. Can you tell me what the packagename is? |
It isn't in portage. I believe you would have to get out of the KDE svn. okular is basically a generalized kpdf that is intended to replace it and the other KDE viewers (kpdf, kghostview, kdvi). It is similar to evince or preview, but has a lot more features and its extensible with plugins to support new formats. Compared to evince it is has more features and supports 2-3x more formats out of the box, with a couple dozen more if you install kword. I should not have said it was the best available, since I don't believe it is publically available in an official sense. |
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CalPaterson
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| CorpseOfMystic wrote: |
It isn't in portage. I believe you would have to get out of the KDE svn. okular is basically a generalized kpdf that is intended to replace it and the other KDE viewers (kpdf, kghostview, kdvi). It is similar to evince or preview, but has a lot more features and its extensible with plugins to support new formats. Compared to evince it is has more features and supports 2-3x more formats out of the box, with a couple dozen more if you install kword. I should not have said it was the best available, since I don't believe it is publically available in an official sense. |
It sounds good, but since I'm not dieing for something to replace what I have, I'll just wait for it to be released. It always seems that the KDE project releases some of the nicest (feature wise) programs |
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