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Belandrew n00b
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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forever wrote: | I emerged ktorrent few minutes ago (stable one) and it even doesn't start - it crashes immediatelly. I stay with azureus. |
That's why I recommended to use the "unstable" version. The 1.0 version was frankly awful - labeled 1.0 too prematurely in my opinion. Though it's marked unstable in portage, 1.2 has proved far more stable and useful. Gentoo is funny that way sometimes.
It still doesn't have the featureset of Azureus, but I never used those extra features anyway, and Azureus was so bloated. If you want the most possible features, ktorrent is definitely not a good choice. I really only care about handling multiple downloads at once and being fairly efficient. I have simple needs |
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forever Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 02 Apr 2004 Posts: 117 Location: Poland - Krakow
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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perhaps - for now I'm fully satisfied with azureus client and I will follow the old technicians' saying: don't repair something which is NOT broken :>
Or other one: "better" is always an enemy of "good" _________________ Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain.
-- Lily Tomlin |
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yakapiece Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 126 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I've never been completely happy with Azureus. I would rather something in gtk/qt - even a good command prompt where I could drop the torrent into a directory and in a day or two have what I need. Azureus was never stable, I would leave a workstation running 80+ days and Azureus would crash numerous times... however, its the best I've found in portage. |
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djpearman n00b
Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 41 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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I used Azureus for quite a while, but disliked its dependence on Java and the huge demand on system resources.
Switched to KTorrent 2 months ago and am loving it. I just like it's simplicity, the integrated search and the small system resource usage. It's still being developed and as such doesn't really deserve 1.x status, but it works for me (on 4 different machines). And my not-so-powerful system is still usable while I'm bittorrenting |
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yakapiece Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 126 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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but it still depends on kde libraries. For those who run kde thats not bad, but those that are -gnome -kde might shy away. |
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lovedaddy n00b
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 58 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject: Mine |
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Desktop usage - KTorrent
Shell / Cli - rtorrent
I love them! |
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forever Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 02 Apr 2004 Posts: 117 Location: Poland - Krakow
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I will check rtorrent - that can be good:) I like console programs _________________ Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain.
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tsunam Retired Dev
Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 343
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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revertex wrote: | @tsunam
Nice job, i'm using the latest rufus ebuild from your website, works great here (amd64), but i'm not sure if it's the perfect azureus replacement.
i've got a few questions:
is there a trayicon?
how can i get rid of the flickering?
why phyton eats so much RAM?
why in hell it isn't in portage yet?
Conky show python using about 11% of 786 RAM, it's more than java eats when running azureus.
speed is great, i've full control about my torrents, cpu use is barely noticeable.
Rufus is a nice featured program, a serious azureus competitor.
I have no doubt that for all ppl that complain about azureus rufus is the way. |
There should be a trayicon. I need to install rufus on my dev machine that has gnome, and a dock so that I can see that it in fact doesn't work (another dev that was testing for me a while ago didn't mention a missing tray icon, since I probably forgot to mention it).
I've noticed that python does seem to eat a good bit. However when I close rufus, I only drop about 40-50 meg afterwords. So I'm not sure if its rufus or something else related that's using so much ram. I'll see if I can track it.
The flickering is something that's been there since I've used rufus. Its something I'm going to look into and try to remove from happening, it can be annoying.
Its not in portage yet because I've been doing security bugs/working lots of hours. Glad to see people want it in the tree. _________________ I'm not afraid of happy endings, just afraid my life wont work that way. |
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direwolf Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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hhaamu wrote: |
I very much like BitTornado and rtorrent for my torrenting needs. BitTornado (as well as the original BitTorrent) can run in console with multiple simultaneous downloads using the btlaunchmanycurses.py frontend (although you can't set a global upload limit, only per-torrent). |
I like bittornado much, too, but its dependency on wxpython has now become a problem. Since the latest version of wxpython now requires so much ludicrous stuff (kde-env alsa, qt, etc.), I'm looking to get rid of bittornado so I don't need wxpython at all. As it is, I'm stuck on an older version. |
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tsunam Retired Dev
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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direwolf wrote: | hhaamu wrote: |
I very much like BitTornado and rtorrent for my torrenting needs. BitTornado (as well as the original BitTorrent) can run in console with multiple simultaneous downloads using the btlaunchmanycurses.py frontend (although you can't set a global upload limit, only per-torrent). |
I like bittornado much, too, but its dependency on wxpython has now become a problem. Since the latest version of wxpython now requires so much ludicrous stuff (kde-env alsa, qt, etc.), I'm looking to get rid of bittornado so I don't need wxpython at all. As it is, I'm stuck on an older version. |
It has no such depends directly on kde-env alsa, qt, etc...if you were to do a -t you'd probably see that its something else pulling in those applications. I'd seriously suggest looking at the use flags that you have. I'd suspect that you have installed something that in fact sets a flag as default on that's pulling in that stuff. _________________ I'm not afraid of happy endings, just afraid my life wont work that way. |
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direwolf Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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tsunam wrote: |
It has no such depends directly on kde-env alsa, qt, etc...if you were to do a -t you'd probably see that its something else pulling in those applications. I'd seriously suggest looking at the use flags that you have. I'd suspect that you have installed something that in fact sets a flag as default on that's pulling in that stuff. |
Yes, it's not bittornado itself, but wxpython (sorry, I though I mentioned that). The old version (wxpython-2.4.2.4) has no such dependencies, but the latest (2.6.1) does, probably because it now depends on "wxGTK", which in turn requires all this other stuff. And bittornado has a dependency on wxpython. |
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tsunam Retired Dev
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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direwolf wrote: | tsunam wrote: |
It has no such depends directly on kde-env alsa, qt, etc...if you were to do a -t you'd probably see that its something else pulling in those applications. I'd seriously suggest looking at the use flags that you have. I'd suspect that you have installed something that in fact sets a flag as default on that's pulling in that stuff. |
but wxpython (sorry, I though I mentioned that). The old version (wxpython-2.4.2.4) has no such dependencies, but the latest (2.6.1) does, probably because it now depends on "wxGTK", which in turn requires all this other stuff. And bittornado has a dependency on wxpython. |
wxpython has wxgtk, gtk and pango if you use gtk2 or unicode, libpng jpeg tiff zlib and pyopengl if you have opengl.
Again if you look at the ebuild for wxGTK 2.6.2-r1 (which is the latest version that will go with wxpython-2.6.x, you have virtual/opengl, gtk+, glib, tiff, unixODBC (if you have the flag) and sdl-sound for x86 and amd64
The depends for kde etc are coming from somewhere else for you...again I suggest a emerge -avt wxpython to see what is pulling in all those depends that shouldn't be unless a flag for one of those depends is activated. Its not the wx* itself. _________________ I'm not afraid of happy endings, just afraid my life wont work that way. |
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Noyan Apprentice
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 212
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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never seen a hot app like rufus on win or lin before...awsome.
and can anyone update rufus ebuild to latest version?using 0.61 but latest is 0.7 |
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tsunam Retired Dev
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Noyan Apprentice
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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tnkx gettin ebuild
Edit : everthing is k tnkx for the ebuild |
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direwolf Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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tsunam wrote: | direwolf wrote: | tsunam wrote: |
It has no such depends directly on kde-env alsa, qt, etc...if you were to do a -t you'd probably see that its something else pulling in those applications. I'd seriously suggest looking at the use flags that you have. I'd suspect that you have installed something that in fact sets a flag as default on that's pulling in that stuff. |
but wxpython (sorry, I though I mentioned that). The old version (wxpython-2.4.2.4) has no such dependencies, but the latest (2.6.1) does, probably because it now depends on "wxGTK", which in turn requires all this other stuff. And bittornado has a dependency on wxpython. |
wxpython has wxgtk, gtk and pango if you use gtk2 or unicode, libpng jpeg tiff zlib and pyopengl if you have opengl.
Again if you look at the ebuild for wxGTK 2.6.2-r1 (which is the latest version that will go with wxpython-2.6.x, you have virtual/opengl, gtk+, glib, tiff, unixODBC (if you have the flag) and sdl-sound for x86 and amd64
The depends for kde etc are coming from somewhere else for you...again I suggest a emerge -avt wxpython to see what is pulling in all those depends that shouldn't be unless a flag for one of those depends is activated. Its not the wx* itself. |
Uh... Yea, Ok. I'm not really sure how to dig in any further to figure out what's causing all these dependencies (since you say it's not the wx* stuff). Here's what I get:
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Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] <dev-python/wxpython-2.4.2.4-r1 (is blocking dev-python/wxpython-2.6.1.0)
[ebuild NS ] dev-python/wxpython-2.6.1.0 -gtk -gtk2 -opengl -unicode 18,019 kB
[ebuild NS ] x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.1 -debug -doc -gnome -gtk2 -joystick +odbc -opengl +sdl -unicode -wxgtk1 12,353 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/sdl-sound-1.0.1-r1 +flac +mikmod -physfs -speex +vorbis 995 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libmikmod-3.1.11-r1 +alsa -esd +oss 597 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-db/qt-unixODBC-3.3.4-r1 14,101 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1 -X -aalib +alsa +arts -dga -directfb -esd -fbcon -ggi -libcaca -nas -noaudio -noflagstrip -nojoystick -novideo -opengl +oss -pic -svga -xinerama -xv 2,541 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/arts-3.4.3 +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid -debug -esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mp3 -nas +vorbis -xinerama 922 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8 +cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird +gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql -nas +odbc -opengl -postgres +sqlite -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10 -doc -jack 690 kB
[ebuild N ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10 2,143 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b -debug 490 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 0 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libvorbis-1.1.0 -aotuv 1,281 kB
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What should I look for? If I do a Code: | emerge -pvt --deep =x11-libs/wxGTK-2.4.2-r2 | I get:
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Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild R ] x11-libs/wxGTK-2.4.2-r2 -debug +gtk2 +odbc +opengl -unicode -wxgtk1 0 kB
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direwolf Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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direwolf wrote: |
Uh... Yea, Ok. I'm not really sure how to dig in any further to figure out what's causing all these dependencies |
Nevermind - I figured it out. Apparently the wxGTK 2.6 wants to compile with libsdl support by default, where the 2.4 doesn't (or didn't support it, or whatever). So I had to explicity exclude libsdl... It looks like that was the culprit pulling in all the other stuff.
Anyway, I've been trying out rtorrent, and I really like it! Even better than bittornado, since I can manage several torrents from the same screen.
Thanks for the tips. |
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bexamous2 Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think rtorrent is perfect, maybe it coudl be better if it would handle starting/stopping torrents based on rules (how many seeds/leechers, amount uploaded, how old it is). But other htan that it does everything I want. You need the newest (still masked) client to have it automatically load torrents put in some folder you choose. You also have to setup the session folder in the .rtorrentrc file so when you quit and reload rtorrent it starts up the previous files. |
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nbvcxz Guru
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 379 Location: Kraków / PL
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: Rufus 0.7.0 problem |
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I installed Rufus (previously 0.6.1) 0.7.0 and both versions give me the same erro:
Code: | Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/rufus/rufus.py", line 16, in ?
import wx
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wx-2.6-gtk2-unicode/wx/__init__.py", line 42, in ?
from wx._core import *
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wx-2.6-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py", line 4, in ?
import _core_
ImportError: /usr/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0: undefined symbol: _Z14InitMouseEventI15_GdkEventMotionEvP8wxWindowR12wxMouseEventPT_ |
Can anybody let me know what is wrong. I would like to try some nice BT clients for Linux. I wonder if there can be a client as uTorrent for Win (extra small with gui) _________________ nBVCXz
zen-kernel (bfq compcache) | /tmp -> tmpfs | ext4 | zsh | xfce | schedtool |
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direwolf Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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bexamous2 wrote: | You also have to setup the session folder in the .rtorrentrc file so when you quit and reload rtorrent it starts up the previous files. |
I haven't tried to restart a torrent yet. Are you saying that by default it will try to start over on a torrent instead of checking for existing files? I didn't see anything about this in the man page. Where is the information about the .rtorrentrc? _________________ ========================================================
"Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us."
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tsunam Retired Dev
Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 343
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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direwolf wrote: |
[ebuild N ] media-libs/sdl-sound-1.0.1-r1 +flac +mikmod -physfs -speex +vorbis 995 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libmikmod-3.1.11-r1 +alsa -esd +oss 597 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-db/qt-unixODBC-3.3.4-r1 14,101 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1 -X -aalib +alsa +arts -dga -directfb -esd -fbcon -ggi -libcaca -nas -noaudio -noflagstrip -nojoystick -novideo -opengl +oss -pic -svga -xinerama -xv 2,541 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/arts-3.4.3 +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid -debug -esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mp3 -nas +vorbis -xinerama 922 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8 +cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird +gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql -nas +odbc -opengl -postgres +sqlite -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10 -doc -jack 690 kB
[ebuild N ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10 2,143 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b -debug 490 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 0 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libvorbis-1.1.0 -aotuv 1,281 kB
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Bingo, libsdl has +arts, which is kde's sound daemon. If you were to echo "media-libs/libsdl -arts" >> /etc/portage/package.use it would remove all those ugly kde/arts/qt depends.
But as you've fixed it another way you'll be fine. _________________ I'm not afraid of happy endings, just afraid my life wont work that way. |
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tsunam Retired Dev
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Rufus 0.7.0 problem |
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nbvcxz wrote: | I installed Rufus (previously 0.6.1) 0.7.0 and both versions give me the same erro:
Code: | Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/rufus/rufus.py", line 16, in ?
import wx
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wx-2.6-gtk2-unicode/wx/__init__.py", line 42, in ?
from wx._core import *
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wx-2.6-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py", line 4, in ?
import _core_
ImportError: /usr/lib/libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0: undefined symbol: _Z14InitMouseEventI15_GdkEventMotionEvP8wxWindowR12wxMouseEventPT_ |
Can anybody let me know what is wrong. I would like to try some nice BT clients for Linux. I wonder if there can be a client as uTorrent for Win (extra small with gui) |
Looks like your wxpython/wxGTK is screwed up a bit. I'd suggest at least reinstalling wxGTK (doing python as well wouldn't hurt). My guess is that somewhere along the line a upgrade to python was doine and it caused problems with the shared libraries for wx*. Try reinstalling both wxPython and wxGTK and restarting rufus. _________________ I'm not afraid of happy endings, just afraid my life wont work that way. |
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bexamous2 Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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No next time you start rtorrent no torrents will be loaded (torrent list will be blank), you will have to manually load them again, at which time rtorrent will hash the files that it has downloaded so far and continue downloading... its just extra work to have to reload all the torrents you had running.
http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/file/trunk/rtorrent/doc/rtorrent.rc?rev=629
That is the example config... you have to create it for some reason I think.
# Default session directory. Make sure you don't run multiple instance
# of rtorrent using the same session directory. Perhaps using a
# relative path?
#session = ./session
# Watch a directory for new torrents, and stop those that have been
# deleted.
#schedule = watch_directory,5,5,load_start=./watch/*.torrent
#schedule = untied_directory,5,5,stop_untied= |
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lovedaddy n00b
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: dont think so |
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bexamous2 wrote: | No next time you start rtorrent no torrents will be loaded (torrent list will be blank), you will have to manually load them again, at which time rtorrent will hash the files that it has downloaded so far and continue downloading... its just extra work to have to reload all the torrents you had running.
http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/file/trunk/rtorrent/doc/rtorrent.rc?rev=629
That is the example config... you have to create it for some reason I think.
# Default session directory. Make sure you don't run multiple instance
# of rtorrent using the same session directory. Perhaps using a
# relative path?
#session = ./session
# Watch a directory for new torrents, and stop those that have been
# deleted.
#schedule = watch_directory,5,5,load_start=./watch/*.torrent
#schedule = untied_directory,5,5,stop_untied= |
Well, with the watch dir you don't need to load in all the torrents by hand... it loads any that gets put in that dir, just like btlaunchmanycurses - so when it re-starts it autoloads all .torrent files.
I've got rtorrent as a screen based service. I ftp into the box, drop a load of torrents, they start downloading. If the machine gets restarted, the rtorrent service starts by default and all the torrents kick off again. |
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bexamous2 Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Well I'm not going to try getting rid of the session directory but I'm pretty sure you still need it. If you don't have a session directory how will rtorrent know the progress of torrents when it loads? It will have to hash each torrent every time it starts, at least I'm pretty sure. I remember azurues always had 2 .torrent files for everything... one was .torrent one was .torrent.bak.
Well just looking at the session direcotry and the watch directory the file sizes are different.. cannot just be the same file in each. |
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