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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: DVI output on Powerbook G4 15" Reply with quote

Hey all!

I have a Powerbook G4 15" and would like to ask if there is a way to use the DVI output under Linux?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, i have the same problem with powerbook 12" and nvidia graphic. I think than is imposible.

For ati is this(is in spanish but configuration is the same):

http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/7214

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have an ATI video card then you can use the DVI port - you just have to add some options to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
If you have an nVidia, then you're out of luck.

Here are the options I have in my "Devices" section:

Code:
Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "ati"
        VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
        BoardName   "Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9]"
        BusID       "PCI:0:16:0"
        Option      "AGPMode" "2"
        Option      "AGPFastWrite" "true"
        Option      "EnablePageFlip" "true"
        Option      "RenderAccel" "true"
        Option      "AccelMethod" "exa"
        Option      "backingstore"
        Option      "UseFWPLL" "true"
        Option      "MergedFB" "true"
        Option      "CRT2Position" "Clone"
        Option      "MetaModes" "1152x864 1024x768 800x600"
        Option      "CloneMode" "1152x864"
EndSection


When I plug in a monitor to my DVI port and restart X, I get my display mirrored on the monitor. That's what I want. For other options, you'll have to search around ...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have DVI ouput in linux, is too dirty but u can.

1º Run mac ox and connect the external mouse, keyboard and dvi.
2º Close de PowerBook.
3º Press mouse or keyboard(External) and u see the mac ox in your DVI(remeber DONT open the powerbook).
4º Reboot the systema and select linux.

Cheers ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has TV out support progressed at all? or has anyone tried tv out of the dvi port on the powerbook (with the converter from apple).
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, The "solution" is a dirty solution. If u close the power book and use a external monitor, if u reboot with powerbook's close the firmware think than your output DVI is the monitor of pb.

The problem is than the most resolution is 1024x768. In console is not a problem, but in X is imposible if u have a big monitor.

I think than never we will have support for nvidia in ppc(ppc in mac is finish).

Note: sorry for my english Ñ_Ñ! :P
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! one photo!

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5401/00007861tt.jpg

Look the problem is the most resolution, this TFT have a native resolution 1920x1200 but the most resolution is 1024x768...

Good look :P
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.6.10 ......

Medic !!!!! This Apple need an upgrade, it is a top priority emergency !!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, this is the most important in the thread... the version of the kernel.

I think, u dont understand spanish :) if u see the picture, u can read Actualizacion -> Update.

I never use linux in notebook, i have mac ox }:)

I take the picture only for explain better.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanDan wrote:
If you have an ATI video card then you can use the DVI port - you just have to add some options to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
If you have an nVidia, then you're out of luck.

Here are the options I have in my "Devices" section:

Code:
Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "ati"
        VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
        BoardName   "Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9]"
        BusID       "PCI:0:16:0"
        Option      "AGPMode" "2"
        Option      "AGPFastWrite" "true"
        Option      "EnablePageFlip" "true"
        Option      "RenderAccel" "true"
        Option      "AccelMethod" "exa"
        Option      "backingstore"
        Option      "UseFWPLL" "true"
        Option      "MergedFB" "true"
        Option      "CRT2Position" "Clone"
        Option      "MetaModes" "1152x864 1024x768 800x600"
        Option      "CloneMode" "1152x864"
EndSection


When I plug in a monitor to my DVI port and restart X, I get my display mirrored on the monitor. That's what I want. For other options, you'll have to search around ...


anyone tried it with expanded display like on osx ? What is the max resolution ? And what about tv-out ?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vandan:

I tried your configuration of X. I now get cloned views on the two screens but I have two problems.

1) The picture on the built in screen on the laptop is kind of flickering. Horizontal lines are flickering.

2) When I use xine or mplayer (which is my purpose of using the tv-out), the program is shown on both screens but the movie is only rolling on the built in screen. On the external screen, only a black or blue "movie" is shown.

Philip.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
1) The picture on the built in screen on the laptop is kind of flickering. Horizontal lines are flickering.

Um. Beats me. Maybe a refresh rate issue? Check on the xorg mailing list.
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2) When I use xine or mplayer (which is my purpose of using the tv-out), the program is shown on both screens but the movie is only rolling on the built in screen. On the external screen, only a black or blue "movie" is shown.

It's possible that you can't use your current video output engine with a cloned setup. For example, I'm pretty sure you can't use XV acceleration with a cloned setup. You're not going to like this, but try using the software-only 'X11' driver in mplayer / xine. In xine, you do this by right-clicking and going into the setup dialog, choosing another output driver, and restarting. In mplayer, you choose another '-vo' option. If that works, then keep trying other output drivers until you find one that's fast and also outputs to both displays. From memory though, X11 is just about it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems there's been some recent work on supporting DVI-out.

http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10418

Summary: the Powerbook's Radeon M10 talks to an external (TMDS) chip (SiI164) to use DVI-out.

Initial support for this chip is now in Xorg's ati driver git.
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