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monkeyBox
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 Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| smcallis182 wrote: | | monkeyBox wrote: | | smcallis182 wrote: | | monkeyBox wrote: | | I think I might be the only person having this problem.. Everyone else at least gets an error message, I get nothing. When I run Xgl :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv, Nothing happens, and it doesn't give me any errors. Has anyone else experienced this? What could be happening here? How can I at least see an error? |
You can see the process running? Do you have another xorg server going as well? How about ctrl-F8, does that bring it up? |
Yes, the process is running. Taking 0% cpu and 1.6% memory. I'm assuming you meant ctrl+alt+F8 .. that just brings me to an inactive terminal (blank screen with blinking cursor). |
Yeah sorry, ctrl-alt-F8, are there any other xorg processes running (you should see Xgl and Xorg running when you launch xgl, if you have another Xorg server running you'll see two xorg processes) |
I'm doing this from within an existing X session. Here's what's running after I run the cmd from within a terminal:
| Code: | $ ps aux | grep X
root 14459 0.6 5.3 32804 27752 tty7 SL 09:42 1:22 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
bdavis 9087 0.1 1.6 17260 8460 pts/0 S 13:24 0:00 Xgl :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv
bdavis 9110 0.0 0.0 1464 476 pts/1 S 13:24 0:00 grep X |
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smcallis182
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | I'm doing this from within an existing X session. Here's what's running after I run the cmd from within a terminal:
| Code: | $ ps aux | grep X
root 14459 0.6 5.3 32804 27752 tty7 SL 09:42 1:22 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
bdavis 9087 0.1 1.6 17260 8460 pts/0 S 13:24 0:00 Xgl :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv
bdavis 9110 0.0 0.0 1464 476 pts/1 S 13:24 0:00 grep X |
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You might want to try dropping out of X to do it (that's what works for me), and did you install the modular xorg? This is what I show running (and I'm typing this from inside Xgl):
1000 14082 1 54 10:50 tty1 01:58:44 Xgl -ac -accel xv:fbo -accel glx:pbuffer
root 14092 14082 0 10:50 tty7 00:01:22 /usr/bin/Xorg -auth /tmp/.Xgl-auth-twCE1Q -nolisten tcp -dpms -v -s 0 :93 -terminate
1000 15698 15692 0 14:26 pts/1 00:00:00 grep X |
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duby2291
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| HAHAHAHAH!!!!! I figure it out!!!! I just had to recompile xgl and compiz!!! I works now. Now I just have to figure out how to use all the kewl effects.... |
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DeeZiD
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Is it possible to enable vertical-sync for the whole xserver?
Flickering doesn't look that nice 
regards Dennis |
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indiekiduk
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Hi I want to install Linux specifically to use the XGL desktop. Gentoo users seem to be the only ones actively trying to install it. Have you seen any dicussion on people trying to install it on other distros such as something easy to install like Suse? |
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smcallis182
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| indiekiduk wrote: | | Hi I want to install Linux specifically to use the XGL desktop. Gentoo users seem to be the only ones actively trying to install it. Have you seen any dicussion on people trying to install it on other distros such as something easy to install like Suse? |
First hit for "suse xgl" in google: http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl
Little light on the details though, you'll basically have to get the overlays posted here, and instead of being able to emerge it, you'll have have to apply the patches and compile it yourself, the rest should be similar to what we've done around here. |
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DeeZiD
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duby2291
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| TheS4int wrote: | | smn wrote: | | TheS4int wrote: | yes great, that does the job!!! THX
only "compiz --replace gconf" causes no window decoration |
if you use gconf you need to add all the modules you want to load to the /apps/compiz/general/allscreens/options/active_plugins key. |
you are absolutly right...
the way i have wobbly and all other effects running with gconf (with decorated windows [title bar, borders, lines]) is to do...
add decoration key to
/apps/compiz/general/allscreens/options/active_plugins
(but as the second key, after gconf, before wobbly, else you become an error)
then you can run
| Code: | | compiz --replace gconf decoration fade switcher move resize place minimize cube rotate zoom scale wobbly |
and you have all fancy effects 
here is my start script...
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#!/bin/bash
Xgl :1 -ac -accel xv:fbo -accel glx:pbuffer &
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib DISPLAY=:1 compiz --replace gconf decoration fade switcher move resize place minimize cube rotate zoom scale wobbly
DISPLAY=:1 gnome-window-decorator &
DISPLAY=:1 gnome-session &
DISPLAY=:1 xbindkeys & |
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The problem that I'm having now is that apps/compiz doesnt exist??? Should it? or should I create it? |
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raaf
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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hi!
quick question:
druon 1800 + gfx2 + 256 mb is enought to run xgl or not, if not what minimum hardware do u propouse to run xgl?
i have others mashines (stronger) but now i am emerging new gentoo only just to test xgl. if ok, i am going to put it on all my mashines in my internet cafe (in fact i am runing linux in cafe for more than one year now). customers will be stunned!
regards
raaf
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Belgabor
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| duby2291 wrote: |
The problem that I'm having now is that apps/compiz doesnt exist??? Should it? or should I create it? |
Run the compiz line first, the key should then be created. |
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superstoned
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| thanx DeeZiD. i'm gonna try this. if it works, should i add it to the HOWTO XGL ???[/topic] |
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raaf
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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hi!
and also, another quick qeustion:
i have ibook (with ati 9200) ppc and i have gentoo on it with gnome, do u think is it poissible to run xgl on it. i will be trying next weekend, but if someone have a answer that would be great!
best regards
raaf
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ddavid
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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why is that:
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# emerge xf86-video-vesa
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# cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers
# nm vesa_drv.so
nm: vesa_drv.so: no symbols
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which results in ugly x server startup messages:
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dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vga_drv.so: undefined symbol: vgaHWGetIndex
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vga_drv.so
(EE) Failed to load module "vga" (loader failed, 7)
(EE) No drivers available
Fatal server error:
no screens found
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what could be the reason? |
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fuoco
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| raaf wrote: | hi!
and also, another quick qeustion:
i have ibook (with ati 9200) ppc and i have gentoo on it with gnome, do u think is it poissible to run xgl on it. i will be trying next weekend, but if someone have a answer that would be great!
best regards
raaf |
I tried on my iBook, which is newer and has radeon 9550. For me it doesn't work because i use r300 driver. You need the r200 which is more supported. I'd say it should work, and I'd be interested to hear your results... |
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duby2291
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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OK new problem.... I got hardware acceleration working with the ati drivers and all, but when I start the compiz line it pops up with this error.....
any ideas?
| Quote: | | compiz: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libdrm.so: undefined symbol: xf86errno |
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raaf
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| fuoco wrote: | | raaf wrote: | hi!
and also, another quick qeustion:
i have ibook (with ati 9200) ppc and i have gentoo on it with gnome, do u think is it poissible to run xgl on it. i will be trying next weekend, but if someone have a answer that would be great!
best regards
raaf |
I tried on my iBook, which is newer and has radeon 9550. For me it doesn't work because i use r300 driver. You need the r200 which is more supported. I'd say it should work, and I'd be interested to hear your results... |
hi!
that is great to hear that, i will buzz u later about that.
regards
raaf
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ddavid
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ddavid wrote: | why is that:
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# emerge xf86-video-vesa
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# cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers
# nm vesa_drv.so
nm: vesa_drv.so: no symbols
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which results in ugly x server startup messages:
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dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vga_drv.so: undefined symbol: vgaHWGetIndex
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vga_drv.so
(EE) Failed to load module "vga" (loader failed, 7)
(EE) No drivers available
Fatal server error:
no screens found
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what could be the reason? |
this is weird. if i emerge the drivers the happen not to function at all, the *.so files are all filled with nonsense..
if i use the .tar.bz2 source files from /var/tmp/portage and compile it for myself, the installed libraries in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/... contain every definition.. this doesn't only happen with the vesa-drivers mentioned above but with *all* so-files in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/
what goes wrong? i dont want to compile everything on my own (i guess thats why some folks came up with portage...) |
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duby2291
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Fixed the libdrm problem!!
I just symlinked /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/linux/libdrm.so.2.0.0 to /usr/lib/libdrm.so..
I got it running with all effects except for wobbly.... Anybody else mage to get wobbly working? |
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Belgabor
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| ddavid wrote: | | ddavid wrote: | why is that:
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# emerge xf86-video-vesa
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# cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers
# nm vesa_drv.so
nm: vesa_drv.so: no symbols
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which results in ugly x server startup messages:
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dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vga_drv.so: undefined symbol: vgaHWGetIndex
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vga_drv.so
(EE) Failed to load module "vga" (loader failed, 7)
(EE) No drivers available
Fatal server error:
no screens found
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what could be the reason? |
this is weird. if i emerge the drivers the happen not to function at all, the *.so files are all filled with nonsense..
if i use the .tar.bz2 source files from /var/tmp/portage and compile it for myself, the installed libraries in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/... contain every definition.. this doesn't only happen with the vesa-drivers mentioned above but with *all* so-files in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/
what goes wrong? i dont want to compile everything on my own (i guess thats why some folks came up with portage...) |
How is that connected to xgl?!? You probably should post in a modular xorg-x11 thread... |
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Belgabor
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| duby2291 wrote: | Fixed the libdrm problem!!
I just symlinked /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/linux/libdrm.so.2.0.0 to /usr/lib/libdrm.so..
I got it running with all effects except for wobbly.... Anybody else mage to get wobbly working? |
I'm currently reemerging the whole lot, but last time I ran compiz wobbly worked perfect  |
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ddavid
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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oh *dumb* sorry
i mixed them up.. |
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CoronaLover
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Am I the only one who STILL get the black windows bug?  |
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Treovo
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I hope I'm wrong but I've seen this problem listed nowhere.
I've installed xgl, compiz & friends from the noew famous Hanno's Overlay. Everything went fine until I wanted to tried out to lauch xterm within a new xgl window.
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Xgl :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/ DISPLAY=:1 compiz gconf
DISPLAY=:1 xterm
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I did not work. Well, this has to be expected for alpha software.
Then I rebooted the computer a few hours later. NO way to get xterm work again.
I'm stuck within E17 (could be worse  ). Not catastrophic but very embarassing 
Solutions already tried:
- killing X server does not help as it restarts automatically
- Ctrl+Alt+F8 = no new console, only a blank screen
- start with Failsafe: same problem, xterm not working
- log in as root: same issue
- prevent the X server to run by changing lines into .xinitrc and/or .xsession: X server starts anyway (no way to remove xdm or entrance via rc-update, remember, I do not have any CLI)
- chroot from RR4 live cd (I run reiser4): env-update after chrooting does not work, I only get env-update.sh (already encountered this, forgot the solution...)
- Eterm: seems to be the same issue or is not installed...
I'd really like to try someting but without command line utlity I'm lost (how curious for a long-time window$ user  , never thought I'd come that far with linux...or shoudl I say gentoo).
SOLVED: forget the post or file it under the "Blame me I'm an idiot" category. Alt+F2 did it.
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indiekiduk
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| smcallis182 wrote: | | indiekiduk wrote: | | Hi I want to install Linux specifically to use the XGL desktop. Gentoo users seem to be the only ones actively trying to install it. Have you seen any dicussion on people trying to install it on other distros such as something easy to install like Suse? |
First hit for "suse xgl" in google: http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl
Little light on the details though, you'll basically have to get the overlays posted here, and instead of being able to emerge it, you'll have have to apply the patches and compile it yourself, the rest should be similar to what we've done around here. |
Yep saw that but says "Xgl and compiz will be available from opensuse.org, it will be announced here where to get the packages from as soon as they are available." hence why I'm hunting the forums...but thanks for the ubuntu link my hardware is similar so I might try that one. |
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TheS4int
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