shall I install kopete-3.5.0?

koho · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: shall I install kopete-3.5.0?

hi all!
I'm looking for a program for msn webchat. I read kopete 3.5 has this feature (Am I right?) but actually my kde is 3.4.x
Do you think I can emerge only kopete-3.5.0 (with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS) or it will make kde crash?
kopete-3.5 requires also arts-3.5 and kdelibs-3.5

thank you
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ElTrapecista · n00b Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 19

Yes, last version of Kopete has video support with msn and yahoo protocols.

The correct way of emerging something not stable is to put it in /etc/portage/package.keywords as follows

Evilguru · Guru Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 390 Location: England

It is genreally adviseable to upgrade all KDE stuff at once, as while most KDE libraries are normally backwards compatible, they can sometimes be the source of some strange errors/lockups.
So, my advice is to try it, if something suddenly breaks, no problem, just down-grade to an older version of KDE libs and Kopete.
I could well be wrong here, so please excuse me if I am, but I believe the correct way to emerge unstable packages is to do (you need to add ~<arch> onto the end of the package name):

koho · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject:

thank you all! I'll give a try and I'll tell you!

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Q-collective · Advocate Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 2076

While kopete 3.5 has some nifty features, I despise it's UI. But that's just my humble opinion.

koho · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:31 am Post subject:

I've emerge correctly kopete-3.5, but now if I run kopete from kde menu, I get the old 3.4 version..
how can I do?
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koho · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:44 am Post subject:

I managed to run kopete-3.5 from console /usr/kde/bin/kopete-3.5 but it cannot find all plugins (msn, icq, jabber, etc) so it was impossible to connect
(Yea! updating only separate kde components doesn't work! Evilguru was miles toward us :wink:

)

I'm experiencing some xserver crashes, some win-like freezes..
I don't like them :cry:

I'm using linux!!
I think I'll remove kopete 3.5 and wait for kde 3.5 marked stable..
when do you think kde3.5 will be put in portage?
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Evilguru · Guru Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 390 Location: England

KDE 3.5(.1) is actually very stable, and many popular distributions (e.g. Kubuntu) use it by default. However there are a few bugs with it that are stopping the devs from putting it into stable. My advice is just to un-mask kde 3.5 and friends and then update your system to it. If you do choose to do this make sure that you also re-compile things like koffice and any other applications that use the kde-libs, if they were not re-compiled when you upgraded.

Good Luck!

irondog · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject:

Evilguru · Guru Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 390 Location: England

irondog · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: 'Stable' has 'two' meanings.

There are two kinds of stable: the first says something about amount of crashes, the other about the amount of (other) bugs.

koho · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:27 am Post subject:

I understand what you mean irondog, but this is my situation.
I _always_ use only unmasked packages (so marked stable versions) and my gentoo-box works for weeks without any problem. I assure you I'm not a programmer, or a unix-guru. I just like to use the computer and I like to use linux. I do only "everyday use" not dev, not debug, not hacking, nothing more than using it for web, email, im, home office, etc.
It's has been quite hard to learn how to use gentoo and linux in general (my girl often asks me when I'm typing in console "how do you know what to write? do you press random keys?"

I LOVE HER!)
I'm using gentoo since 4 years and I made some great mistakes in the past (lived as root, unmerged Gcc, emerge depclean with empty world file, etc)
Actually my faith in gentoo devs is TOTAL. I know that if a package is masked, there's a good reason for it.
I'd like to try kopete for using my brand new webcam and I ran the risk of emerging a masked package.
The result is an unstable system (my faith grows :wink:

)
Now I'll unmerge it and wait for devs to mark kde 3.5 stable.
Sometimes a man has to believe strongly in something.
I'm sure a gentoo box is stable more than any window box I've seen in my life. And I want a linux-box!

Thank you for your answer and thank evilguru for your suggestions

I love gentoo because it's also people like you two.

have a nice day :wink:

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friedmud · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:44 am Post subject:

Here I am running 3.5.1 and I didn't even know that it _wasn't_ "stable" yet....

I've been running 3.5 since it came out... and haven't had any problems whatsoever, and I use the _hell_ outta my desktop environment (including multiple monitors and a bunch of other non-standard stuff).

But I fly with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" all the time (tired of gentoo's "stabalizing" slowing down and becoming more Debian like) so maybe I just have a higher tolerance for bugs (but honestly I can't think of anything that 3.5(.1) has done incorrectly.

My desktop is fast _and_ stable... but of course this is just my experience.

Friedmud

koho · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject:

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