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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2003 6:20 pm    Post subject: Which Gigabyte Motherboard? Reply with quote

I will be upgrading my system next week and would like to know which Gigabyte motherboard to purhcase. These are the ones a local store sells.

Gigabyte 7VKMP, 7VAXP, 7VA-C or 7VAX.

I had done some reading on these forums concerning the KT400 chipset and I can't tell if they are still an issue. The posts had to do with an older kernel and I thought I read the 2.4.20 kernel fixed the issues with it.

Any guidance would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2003 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the ASUS one... Seriously the nforce2 chipset is the way to go.

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http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htm
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If you have to get a Gigabyte for some reason get one based on the via kt400 chipset, as the dont make one based on the nforce2. You will be missing out on the duel ddr boost though :(

just my .02
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2003 7:05 pm    Post subject: Sounds good. Reply with quote

I looked over the price listings and do see an Asus A7N8X deluxe version listed.

Is it hard to get Gentoo installed on it? Any driver issues?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2003 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the product pages for the boards. The 7vkmp has onboard video, you probably don't want this one.

Note that the 7va, 7vax and 7vaxp are the pretty much the same boards but with more features.

X = onboard Lan, dual bios.
P = bracket for 6 channel sound (otherwise you have to use your mic and line jack as outputs), firewire, raid.

I might be missing something but that's what I can think of as differences.

http://tw.giga-byte.com/english-web/products/7va.htm
http://tw.giga-byte.com/english-web/products/7vax.htm
http://tw.giga-byte.com/english-web/products/7vaxp.htm
http://tw.giga-byte.com/english-web/products/7vkmp.htm

The Asus nforce 2 boards are better boards but they're also more expensive. Note there's a deluxe model with extra features.
http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x/overview.htm
From my supplier the 7vaxp-deluxe is 36% more then a 7vaxp.

Main differences between 7vaxp and a7n8x-deluxe - nforce 2 is a little faster, asus board has a heatsink instead of a fan on the the board (quieter and more reliable), sound quality out of the Asus board is excellent but don't forget you'll have to use 2 sticks of ram to get the performance benefits.

I've used all boards mentioned here and I say either get a 7vax (if it has enough features for you) or if you can afford it get an a7n8x-deluxe cause it rocks ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2003 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is it hard to get Gentoo installed on it? Any driver issues?
I haven't tried installing Linux on the a7n8x so I can't really comment but there's a thread on it here:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=26625

Linux installs easily on the 7vaxp, you just have to make sure you're using a 2.4.20+ kernel for dma/agp to work properly.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:13 am    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

I think I will get the ASUS motherboard. I don't upgrade for a while and I think it has the best features that will keep me current for the time being.

Thanks for the help.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking into an upgrade pretty soon too.
As it so happens, I'm looking at getting this mainboard:
http://tw.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-7VAXP

For some reason, ubb wouldn't parse the url, no matter how hard I tried, sorry. (Why can't people just stick with good 'ol html? Geeze. ;))

From what I can tell, it's better than any of the nForce boards that I've come across. Am I missing something obvious?

edit: Aargh! Since when are urls automatically parsed? *grumbles*
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From what I can tell, it's better than any of the nForce boards that I've come across. Am I missing something obvious?
The a7n8x-deluxe has all the features of the 7vaxp (except raid) plus it's faster, has much better sound quality, no noisy fan on the motherboard and two nics onboard.
Here are some benchmarks showing the nforce2 and 7vaxp boards in action:
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1759&p=35
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the a7n8x-d has raid... albeit on the serial ata bus.

The specs page says it supports raid0 and raid1

http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?langs=09&m=A7N8X%20Deluxe
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, thanks. I think my parts list just got changed. :)

Pitty the ASUS one doesn't 'look' as good as the Gigabye. Ahwell. the price you pay for progress I suppose.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually the a7n8x-d has raid... albeit on the serial ata bus.
Yep, I should of been specific. Sata drives are pretty expensive though, the money I'd save buying two 80G pata drives instead of sata would almost be enough to pay for the motherboard ;) This will change soon enough though.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too! I am looking to upgrade as well and am looking at the nforce2 motherboards.

Is Asus all that wonderful of a motherboard? What about MSI? My local store carries the MSI nforce2 motherboards(cant remember model numbers).

I am not a power user so maybe looking at the lower priced MSI is why I ask.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MSI usually makes decent boards IMHO. I guess if it is available locally and at a reasonable price I wouldn't hesitate in getting a MSI
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have got theGigabyte 8pe667 Ultra with a intel P4....

got a lan, usb, soundcard, and raid onboard...

pretty happy with it
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is Asus all that wonderful of a motherboard? What about MSI? My local store carries the MSI nforce2 motherboards
Nothing wrong with MSI but their nforce 2 board doesn't have a lot of the features the Asus deluxe board has.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=393&MODEL=MS-6570
No firewire, no sata, inferior sound, just the one nic.
If you don't care about the extra features then the MSI board is a great deal for the performance.

Their IGP version is available with more optional features. (IGP=integrated graphics, SPP= No integrated graphics)
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=398&MODEL=MS-6570
A loaded IGP model is about the same price as the Asus deluxe model (which is SPP of course). The IGP versions have a fan on the motherboard and inferior sound to the Asus deluxe board.
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