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cheater1034
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Ok everyone, metalshark's overlay that I was using seems to be broken, the best solution = rm -r /usr/local/portage/sys-devel/gcc
then continue.
This will be fixed in the hour
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sonyman
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Conrad, I did as you said and deleted the gcc overlay. It definately has some issues.
Scott
Edit: I'm getting the same errors using vanilla GCC, and therefore have switched back to the overlay.
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I'm trying to compile KDE and get:
| Code: | | Checking for C++ compiler default output file name.... login(pam_unix)[19351]: session closed for user hardwire |
I compiled everything fine until now, how come it won't work? Anyone have any ideas?
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| cheater1034 wrote: | Ok everyone, metalshark's overlay that I was using seems to be broken, the best solution = rm -r /usr/local/portage/sys-devel/gcc
then continue.
This will be fixed in the hour |
I had issues with 2.5.0 install last week because I didn't realize 'til too late the portage-overlay got untarred to wrong place- /portage. In other words I didn't get around to creating /usr/local/portage until after the first round of emerging toolkit. I figured I'd wait until 2.5.1 guide & start fresh. First round of building toolkit failed "glibc-2.4-patches.1.2-* not found". I removed sys-devel/gcc & sys-libs/glibc from overlay & have continued on building toolkit. I'm waiting to see what options I'll have for gcc-config. Will I still be able to take advantage of glibc 2-4 after this first toolkit build after removing sys-libs/glibc from overlay? If so how do I fix it? |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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for everyone having problems with compiling kdesktop-3.5.2 do this
| Code: | | nano /etc/portage/bashrc |
add this
| Code: | if [ "$CATEGORY/$PN" == "kde-base/kdesktop" ] ; then
export CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fpermissive"
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save and it should compile fine, its a hack sort of fix but does the job |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Agentvenom wrote: | I'm trying to compile KDE and get:
| Code: | | Checking for C++ compiler default output file name.... login(pam_unix)[19351]: session closed for user hardwire |
I compiled everything fine until now, how come it won't work? Anyone have any ideas? |
paste emerge --info |
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Ok, everyone, I have made some major decision-making changes.
I am going to drop all this heavy optimization stuff, there is a point where it gets to be too much, and now is that point.
The new guide is just out of line, no one needs all of this. (It doesn't work properly, it takes away the comfort in a system, etc)
The new guide is going to be tagged as 2.6.0, it is going to be like the old conrad guide, where it worked for everyone, and it was perfect, and everyone was happy. Expect the best from me, like I said, I will not drop what I started.
The question was brought to me, why don't I just drop the guide? Well, I can't let anyone down, I have too many supporters (thank you everyone) expecially the ones who come back every release on end and talk to me about their experiences. I will give you the best, I will stop making this guide a joke, and get down to buisiness.
The new version will be what the guide was meant to be, it won't be a joke like what it has become today :-p (This will also remove about all of your problems)
Time to go back to the way it was in the "Good ole' days"
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We reach a point where a distro becomes un-maintainable. too many overlays and patches. This alright for a test bed, but not for an everyday desktop. Thanks for all your guides, they have been fun. I look forward to your next release as I would like to get back to the basics. 
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thanks four your help cheater, everything works fine.
but now i face another problem ... emerging kdelibs-3.5.2-r9
it fails, and the screen is full with "Out of bounds direct section index 5xx" messages.
output after that:
| Code: | make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.5.2-r9/work/kdelibs-3.5.2/kdesu´
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.5.2-r9/work/kdelibs-3.5.2´
make: *** [all] Error 2
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i'm not quite sure whether this is a conrad-specific problem.
could someone help me?
[edit]i think i'll try it again without the kde overlay |
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| cheater1034 wrote: | Ok, everyone, I have made some major decision-making changes.
I am going to drop all this heavy optimization stuff, there is a point where it gets to be too much, and now is that point.
The new guide is just out of line, no one needs all of this. (It doesn't work properly, it takes away the comfort in a system, etc)
The new guide is going to be tagged as 2.6.0, it is going to be like the old conrad guide, where it worked for everyone, and it was perfect, and everyone was happy. Expect the best from me, like I said, I will not drop what I started.
The question was brought to me, why don't I just drop the guide? Well, I can't let anyone down, I have too many supporters (thank you everyone) expecially the ones who come back every release on end and talk to me about their experiences. I will give you the best, I will stop making this guide a joke, and get down to buisiness.
The new version will be what the guide was meant to be, it won't be a joke like what it has become today :-p (This will also remove about all of your problems)
Time to go back to the way it was in the "Good ole' days" |
Cheater,
Any idea about time line of 2.6.0 ? My old sony laptop & I eagerly await your latest (& hopefully easier to build with) overlays. Very sorry to hear about your recent loss. Keep up the excellent work! |
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Thanks to sonyman, I have the gcc overlay working by doing as follows:
| Code: | mkdir /usr/local/portage/sys-devel/gcc/files/awk
cp /usr/portage/sys-devel/gcc/files/awk/* /usr/local/portage/sys-devel/gcc/files/awk
ebuild /usr/local/portage/sys-devel/gcc/gcc-4.1.0-r9.ebuild digest
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As for glibc 2.4*, i used nxsty's overlay. Make sure you mask glibc-2.4-r9.
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-435659-highlight-nxsty+glibc.html
The revision 2 version of glibc takes advantage of 2.6.16 kernel features (not sure exactly of what as i type, this was a day ago i looked it up), so you'll need a 2.6.16 kernel headers AND a running 2.6.16 kernel. I figured while I'm building a new system, might as well make it up to date as possible. The r2 version of glibc will make the system incompatible with 2.6.15 and earlier kernels (I think, safe bet).
I'm building this new test Gentoo OS from a stable older release I've been using for awhile, so I merely unmasked gentoo-sources and emerged the gentoo-sources-2.6.16 kernel, built it, rebooted with it, and off I went.
Hope this helps out some forum digging.
I've yet to try the no-sources kernel yet, I'll keep reporting back to this forum as I build this new test system. |
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suur13
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I have followed your guide and everything seems OK.
Compiled everything and now I'm going to do first reboot.
I have 2 Gentoo installations in my machine:
a). First and ordinary (2005.0 gcc 3.4.4) on one ReiserFS partition. Grub 0.97
installed and working from /boot folder.
b). Conrad new installation on Reiser4 partition. No grub installed, only kernel
on /boot folder.
First one is working OK and it's Grub was able to boot an old Debian from this
same partition (/dev/hda5), where now the Conrad resides.
Only fs was ext3 then.
But now I get "unknown filesystem on partition hd0,4 (type 0x83)" error
after selecting new Conrad installation from boot menu...
What I'm doing wrong ? |
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yngwin
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Have you compiled support for Reiser4 into your kernel?
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Guide 2.6.0 will come tonight, depending on how long I am gone tonight.
It will be something special 
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@ Can't boot
make sure you are pointing to correct partition in grub, make sure you have reiser4 support in the kernel, make sure your boot partition is NOT REISER4, make sure your kernel sources supports reiser4 (if you are using -no, it does)
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---2.6.0 Plans---
1) Remove -Bdirect, -hashvals, and -zdynsort from ldflags (not worth what doesn't work)
2) Update to binutils 2.16.91.0.7
3) GCC 4.1.1 Snapshot Overlay Ebuild (nxsty-based), I will make a few changes to it probally
4) Glibc 2.4-r2 (nxsty overlay)
5) 2.6.16-no1 kernel
6) Qt 3.3.6 Overlay/KDE Perrty patched ebuilds
7) Remove all these ridiculous bundled overlay files.
There are a few other changes, not at the top of my head now.
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As for conrad livecd 1.0.0
Progress: 73% (rebuilt with new use/make.conf, utilities emerged, kernel (custom conrad kernel, like -ck based gentoo-sources, with netfilter l7, realtime-lsm, less tty devices built, bcm43xx, and more))
Things are going very smoothly, livecd 1.0.0 is coming along way smoother and quicker than I expected.
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| cheater1034 wrote: | Ok, everyone, I have made some major decision-making changes.
I am going to drop all this heavy optimization stuff, there is a point where it gets to be too much, and now is that point.
The new guide is just out of line, no one needs all of this. (It doesn't work properly, it takes away the comfort in a system, etc)
The new guide is going to be tagged as 2.6.0, it is going to be like the old conrad guide, where it worked for everyone, and it was perfect, and everyone was happy. Expect the best from me, like I said, I will not drop what I started.
The question was brought to me, why don't I just drop the guide? Well, I can't let anyone down, I have too many supporters (thank you everyone) expecially the ones who come back every release on end and talk to me about their experiences. I will give you the best, I will stop making this guide a joke, and get down to buisiness.
The new version will be what the guide was meant to be, it won't be a joke like what it has become today :-p (This will also remove about all of your problems)
Time to go back to the way it was in the "Good ole' days" |
I`m impatient for 2.6 too 
In this moment i`m compilling KDE-3.5.2 and got very strange errors :
| Code: | Warning - strange error on 'KFileDialog::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*)': 0x516 0x0
Warning - strange error on 'KShred::staticMetaObject()': 0x518 0x0
Warning - strange error on 'QListViewItem::QListViewItem(QListView*, QString, QString, QString, QString, QString, QString, QString, QString)': 0x51a 0x0
Warning - strange error on 'KURLRequester::KURLRequester(QString const&, QWidget*, char const*)': 0x51c 0x0
Warning - strange error on 'QPtrList<KFileMetaInfoWidget>::~QPtrList()': 0x51e 0x0
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Considering clean install on 2.6 guide
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Yeah, I was getting the same as you guys. (out of bounds errors and warning - strage error on blah blah blah, and even random logouts) so I just formatted. I think Chris is about to release the new (installable) version of the Kororaa XGL live cd tomorrow at www.kororaa.org, (as I'm sure you know, Cheater) so I'll play with that until your new guide is set for launch. Thanks again for sticking with us!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: |
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i get all these strange error warnings too, but i think i'll leave it for the moment.
kdelibs seems to merge fine for me without the overlays.
[edit] emerge has just finished - works
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| Quote: | | make sure your boot partition is NOT REISER4... |
OK, that was the reason. Kernel were still on r4 partition. I tought that only Grub should not reside on r4... now it's OK and booting. Thanks.
But... during booting, somewhere after the volumes are mounted, I get like 20 errors, all saying something "unable to load xxx before sysinit is completed"... where xxx stands for diffrent system components - eth0, gpm, numlock...
I can log in then and system works, but no network and etc.
What did I miss ?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| cheater1034 wrote: | Guide 2.6.0 will come tonight, depending on how long I am gone tonight.
It will be something special
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@ Can't boot
make sure you are pointing to correct partition in grub, make sure you have reiser4 support in the kernel, make sure your boot partition is NOT REISER4, make sure your kernel sources supports reiser4 (if you are using -no, it does)
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---2.6.0 Plans---
1) Remove -Bdirect, -hashvals, and -zdynsort from ldflags (not worth what doesn't work)
2) Update to binutils 2.16.91.0.7
3) GCC 4.1.1 Snapshot Overlay Ebuild (nxsty-based), I will make a few changes to it probally
4) Glibc 2.4-r2 (nxsty overlay)
5) 2.6.16-no1 kernel
6) Qt 3.3.6 Overlay/KDE Perrty patched ebuilds
7) Remove all these ridiculous bundled overlay files.
There are a few other changes, not at the top of my head now.
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As for conrad livecd 1.0.0
Progress: 73% (rebuilt with new use/make.conf, utilities emerged, kernel (custom conrad kernel, like -ck based gentoo-sources, with netfilter l7, realtime-lsm, less tty devices built, bcm43xx, and more))
Things are going very smoothly, livecd 1.0.0 is coming along way smoother and quicker than I expected. |
What kind of problems are you having with those ldflags?
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Got over it without doing anything (after 4th reboot). Evrything works now.
Only udev is complaining something. Errors on lines 8xx and 8xx (numbers are changing).
udevd-event[8xx]: find_free_number: %e
That this is deprecated, will not work and will be deleted...
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| vipernicus wrote: |
What kind of problems are you having with those ldflags? |
Quite a bit actually
1) kde-meta won't build all the way through, ever. (so many packages fail)
2) System actually seems slower?
3) Over-Optimizing is never a good solution
4) It does break things, breaking 1 or 2 things is alright, but running so unstable does indeed break things
5) Tons of strange errors on emerges for more than 3 people? (increases the compile times)
Not worth it basically, it isn't a bad idea, it is a good idea to replace pre-linking, but using simple ldflags is way more stable
Things do break, people don't realize them though because they are so used to it :-p, and they have a bashrc to remove the flag, etc.
I want my guide to be the best, and that is what it will be (How many packages do you need to go LDFLAGS="" emerge pkgname for?)
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cheater, is there a certain ldflag that causes all those emerging probs, or is it their combination which is problematic?
i don't have too much experience with that optimization stuff ...
thanks
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