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Maedhros
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 Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: XGL (Part 3) |
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Continued from XGL (part 2).
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mariux2
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| Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Great, as the number of pages grew in part 2, it became harder and harder to find the info you wanted using searching. |
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x.para
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| Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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OK, than let's continue  .
Using i915 module together with drm causing me following problems:
- Under Xgl I have distroyed and unreadable font in xterm
- Also I don't see what I am typing until I don't move or change cube desktops. Than I can see what has been written.
- Moving or resizing any window causes the whole Xgl crash with only one message memory access violation (SIGSEGV)
- Starting another application like xmms also causes Xgl crash.
- here is the screenshot http://paraweb.czweb.org/image/xglfonts.png
I found that when I move somehow desktops after I start the application, it does not crash, so it look this problem apperes only when cube is in peace.
Without all works fine, but very slow.
Thanks for advices. |
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sixshot
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| Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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I noticed rev60 that two new files were downloaded: i810_drv.so and libshadow.so. I'm assuming that this is the updated Xorg drivers (v1.5-ish?) that enables DRI?
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x.para
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| Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| sixshot wrote: | | I noticed rev60 that two new files were downloaded: i810_drv.so and libshadow.so. I'm assuming that this is the updated Xorg drivers (v1.5-ish?) that enables DRI? |
Yes, this was discussed in few last posts this thread https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-434459-start-50.html. |
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Gnufsh
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| Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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@superstoned
if compiz and xgl are installed you can do the following.
Open a terminal and open the kdmrc:
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nano /usr/kde/3.5/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
Than replace the ServerCmd-line:
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ServerCmd=/usr/bin/Xgl -kb -br -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo -fullscreen #ati-users use xv:pbuffer
Then create a compiz.desktop with the following lines:
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[Desktop Entry]
Comment=
Comment[de]=
Encoding=UTF-8
Exec=LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace decoration wobbly fade switcher move resize place minimize cube rotate zoom scale & gnome-window-decorator
GenericName=
GenericName[de]=
Icon=
MimeType=
Name=compiz
Name[de]=compiz
Path=
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=false
TerminalOptions=
Type=Application
X-DCOP-ServiceType=
X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false
X-KDE-Username=
put it into your homefolder in .kde/autostart
ISSUES:
Code:
- colorselection doesn't work
- systray only works for gtk-apps
- if cube is enabled the pager only shows one virtual desktop
- the show desktop button doesn't work
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I tired this and kde dies while logging in. I saw a post in this thread on the ubuntu forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=810136&highlight=kde+xgl#post810136) that talks about solving the problem by editing /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore. THe only problem is that I don't have a /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore on my system. I can use xgl and gnome fine using the startxgl script from the xgl-coffee overlay. Any ideas? |
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Vulcano23
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Hi guys!
Was anybody able to run MythTV inside Xgl? I have tried, but Xgl completely crashes as soon as I try to watch TV or an archived show.  |
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MADcow
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: |
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hi everyone. i'm sure this has been asked before, but i can't find an answer in all of my searching, so here goes:
i have an ATi card. Xgl works fine with the Xnest-type-method using Xgl :0 -ac -accel xv:pbuffer -accel glx:pbuffer
from inside a running X,
but if i try to start X like that, use the howto's startxgl or use gdm to start Xgl, i always get the "no screens found" error from Xorg.
this is odd, as that should be accompanied by some other error that causes the screens to not exist. i can NOT find another error. i can't find anything weird.
anyone got an idea? |
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smypee
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:01 am Post subject: |
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@MADcow
I had the same problem when using my dual-screen setup. It all worked without problems when I disabled the secondary screen in my xorg.conf...but dual-screen would be really nice anyway. |
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Archangel1
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Gnufsh wrote: | | Quote: | ISSUES:
Code:
- colorselection doesn't work
- systray only works for gtk-apps
- if cube is enabled the pager only shows one virtual desktop
- the show desktop button doesn't work
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I tired this and kde dies while logging in. I saw a post in this thread on the ubuntu forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=810136&highlight=kde+xgl#post810136) that talks about solving the problem by editing /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore. THe only problem is that I don't have a /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore on my system. I can use xgl and gnome fine using the startxgl script from the xgl-coffee overlay. Any ideas? |
Mine seems to work okay. I've done something pretty similar to kdmrc; the major difference seems to be that I stuck "export KDEWM="compiz_wrapper"" in .bashrc. compiz_wrapper is just a wee bash script to run compiz with all it's parameters followed by gnome-window-decorator.
My systray seems to be working for at least some qt apps - amaroK has an icon in there at the moment, even though I'd rather it didn't 
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TNorthover
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Please, for the love of all that is holy, can someone reassure me that compiz has a focus-follows mouse option? (Telling me how to enable it would be a bonus...)
I'm just on the verge of giving up my beloved kde for xfce and compiz, but couldn't bring myself to do it without that option. |
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Gusar
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| TNorthover wrote: | Please, for the love of all that is holy, can someone reassure me that compiz has a focus-follows mouse option? (Telling me how to enable it would be a bonus...)
I'm just on the verge of giving up my beloved kde for xfce and compiz, but couldn't bring myself to do it without that option. |
Fire up gconf-editor, then go apps->compiz->general->allscreens->options and untick click_to_focus. |
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tj
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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hmm seems to be mostly working here:
gnome 2.13.92/93
nvidia
however, I have a problem with
a) epiphany - won't load Unabel to connect to the session bus
b) my cursor is mostly invisible
given (b) it's been quite a pain to search so apologies if it's been covered
on the plus side the effects are very snappy for a PIII w/ gf3-ti500
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TNorthover
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Guzar wrote: | | Fire up gconf-editor, then go apps->compiz->general->allscreens->options and untick click_to_focus. |
Damn, thought I'd checked that and it didn't work but it does now, Thanks. (Having just spent the last hour cobbling together a plugin to do the same, I find it's useless). |
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Gnufsh
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Archangel1 wrote: | | Gnufsh wrote: | | Quote: | ISSUES:
Code:
- colorselection doesn't work
- systray only works for gtk-apps
- if cube is enabled the pager only shows one virtual desktop
- the show desktop button doesn't work
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I tired this and kde dies while logging in. I saw a post in this thread on the ubuntu forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=810136&highlight=kde+xgl#post810136) that talks about solving the problem by editing /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore. THe only problem is that I don't have a /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore on my system. I can use xgl and gnome fine using the startxgl script from the xgl-coffee overlay. Any ideas? |
Mine seems to work okay. I've done something pretty similar to kdmrc; the major difference seems to be that I stuck "export KDEWM="compiz_wrapper"" in .bashrc. compiz_wrapper is just a wee bash script to run compiz with all it's parameters followed by gnome-window-decorator.
My systray seems to be working for at least some qt apps - amaroK has an icon in there at the moment, even though I'd rather it didn't |
Would you mind posting the script?
Also, how well is kde working? |
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Ibaun
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I'm still trying to figure out what went wrong with my installation (first part here). I've removed everything which got updated with moving to compiz etc, and did a fresh install, to no avail. Whenever I boot compiz, the whole Xgl server becomes unresponsive.
But, I've found another problem now, and it's pretty much the same stuff. I boot the Xgl server, put a gnome-terminal on top of that, and like I've said before, everything works. 'Edit - Current Profile' menu opens a nice window (which is ofcourse unmovable), running through the tabs on top of that window works, but my Xgl window grinds to a halt when I select the 'Scrolling' tab. If I do not touch that one, I can go back and forth between 'Effects' and 'Compatibility' as long as I want, but when I then click on 'Scrolling', Xgl becomes unresponsive and I have to shut it down.
Maybe the Compiz problem is related?
EDIT: starting to believe this has nothing to do with compiz in particular. Right now, I've started an Xgl window, started xterm in it, and it still worked. I pressed <enter> until the point where a scrollbar should appear, and Xgl became unresponsive.
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Gnufsh
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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I tried with these in my kdmrc file:
ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo -fullscreen
ServerCmd=/usr/bin/Xgl -kb -br
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export KDEWM="compizrc" in my .bashrc.
/usr/bin/compizrc:
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#!/bin/bash
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# Start compiz within gnome-session
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if [ `ps -A | grep Xgl | wc -l` == "1" ]; then
echo "Starting compiz..."
DISPLAY=:1 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/ compiz --replace gconf &
sleep 3
echo "starting gnome-window-decorator..."
DISPLAY=:1 gnome-window-decorator &
fi
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And kdm still just dumps me back to the login screen. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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How can I change the alt-tab behaviour that it shows me all windows also the ones minimized?
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Gnufsh
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Have you tried the switch_all_desktops use flag? (I don't know if that will work with minimized windows or not) |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Gnufsh wrote: | | Have you tried the switch_all_desktops use flag? (I don't know if that will work with minimized windows or not) |
Yes I set that useflag. But it does not work (yet?).
PS: Why is that use flag yellow with latest portage?
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Mit
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I've just got XGL working on my Duron 1.4 / Radeon 9600 - works like a charm.
There are just a few little niggles I have with Compiz as a WM. I'm missing features like 'always on top' or 'show on all workspaces'. Other than these, I like the changes definately a step forward towards something more usable for users who are after more than just a plain desktop
Oh yeah - when starting a program, it draws a growing outline box from the links on my panel - the rendering of those outlines is horribly slow
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Gnufsh
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Mit wrote: | | I'm missing features like 'always on top' or 'show on all workspaces'. |
I agree, I'd really like to see these at some point. |
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| Gnufsh wrote: | | Mit wrote: | | I'm missing features like 'always on top' or 'show on all workspaces'. |
I agree, I'd really like to see these at some point. |
We all should keep in mind that the status of the software is alpha. I never saw such stable alpha software 
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Phlogiston wrote: | | Gnufsh wrote: | | Mit wrote: | | I'm missing features like 'always on top' or 'show on all workspaces'. |
I agree, I'd really like to see these at some point. |
We all should keep in mind that the status of the software is alpha. I never saw such stable alpha software |
i'm well aware this is alpha software - unstable an all that lot )
its just something i'd like to see sooner rather than later
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