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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm lucky, I wont have my new box until the end of next week, so I figure it should be working really well in ~amd64 by then :-)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm lucky, I wont have my new box until the end of next week, so I figure it should be working really well in ~amd64 by then :-)


well, I wouldn't consider you lucky, a whole week without Gentoo? :cry:
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CloudBolt wrote:
FictionPimp wrote:
I'm lucky, I wont have my new box until the end of next week, so I figure it should be working really well in ~amd64 by then :-)


well, I wouldn't consider you lucky, a whole week without Gentoo? :cry:


Well, depending on your hardware you could spend a week to set up the entire base system with Gentoo so... good luck! :lol:
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool...

The main meta ebuild (gnome-base/gnome-2.14.0) is not in yet, but I've constructed my own by bumping all the versions and adding new packages where needed.

It looks like there's only a few packages left to hit portage... (based on gnome-2.14 release pkg versions)

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>=net-analyzer/gnome-nettool-2.13.91
>=net-misc/vino-2.13.5
>=gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.10.0
>=media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.5
>=app-text/evince-0.5.2
>=sys-apps/hal-0.5.7
>=mail-client/evolution-2.6.0
>=gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.6.0
>=gnome-extra/evolution-webcal-2.5.90


Good work guys! I am eager to help test this and stabilize it.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a hal-0.5.7 at breakmygentoo so I just used that... seems to work fine, although for some reason I've noticed my USB jump drive which worked 100% in the previous gnome doesn't yet mount properly (it mounts, but the icon doesn't appear and the drive doesn't have its normal name...) I guess this might be because I'm emerging packages as they show up...

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tweakt wrote:
Cool...

The main meta ebuild (gnome-base/gnome-2.14.0) is not in yet, but I've constructed my own by bumping all the versions and adding new packages where needed.

It looks like there's only a few packages left to hit portage... (based on gnome-2.14 release pkg versions)

Code:

>=net-analyzer/gnome-nettool-2.13.91
>=net-misc/vino-2.13.5
>=gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.10.0
>=media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.5
>=app-text/evince-0.5.2
>=sys-apps/hal-0.5.7
>=mail-client/evolution-2.6.0
>=gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.6.0
>=gnome-extra/evolution-webcal-2.5.90


Good work guys! I am eager to help test this and stabilize it.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't wait to run new gnome with XGL, more speed never hurts =)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this might be a really really stupid question but i am a major noob here i got what i think is a working gentoo but i do not have a desktop yet i would like to get gnome but have no idea what to dl i went to http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/desktop/2.14/2.14.0/sources/ but i have no idea which one of those if any of them i need to dl.


also which would be the best way to dl them i was going to boot from the gentoo cd and use the LINKS thing to dl it but i dont know what commands to use to get it to start the run i think it is liek "tar and some letters" but i don know can someone point me in the right direction please.





thx for the help
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

niamain wrote:
this might be a really really stupid question but i am a major noob here i got what i think is a working gentoo but i do not have a desktop yet i would like to get gnome but have no idea what to dl i went to http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/desktop/2.14/2.14.0/sources/ but i have no idea which one of those if any of them i need to dl.

also which would be the best way to dl them i was going to boot from the gentoo cd and use the LINKS thing to dl it but i dont know what commands to use to get it to start the run i think it is liek "tar and some letters" but i don know can someone point me in the right direction please.

thx for the help


are you comfortable using gentoo???
why don't you try a more friendly distro maybe ubuntu???

if you feel good with gentoo then:

then wait for... maybe three or four days until all ebuilds of gnome 2.14 hit portage
then in a terminal type
Code:
emerge sync

and follow directions from this thread.

sorry my english... :wink:
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can install vidalinux os (google it)

thisi is the easiest way to have a running gentoo (it includes a gnome desktop).



sorry my english... :wink:
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

this might be a really really stupid question but i am a major noob here i got what i think is a working gentoo but i do not have a desktop yet i would like to get gnome but have no idea what to dl i went to http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/desktop/2.14/2.14.0/sources/ but i have no idea which one of those if any of them i need to dl.


All you need to do is:
emerge "gnome-base/gnome"

If you want a working system right now, which will install 2.12. You don't want 2.14.0... it was just released 2 days ago and has not been packaged yet (by any distro).

Other possibilities for 2.14:

Ubuntu 6.x "Dapper Drake" will be out in April.
Fedora Core 5 is scheduled for later this month.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

niamain wrote:
this might be a really really stupid question but i am a major noob here i got what i think is a working gentoo but i do not have a desktop yet i would like to get gnome but have no idea what to dl i went to http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/desktop/2.14/2.14.0/sources/ but i have no idea which one of those if any of them i need to dl.

also which would be the best way to dl them i was going to boot from the gentoo cd and use the LINKS thing to dl it but i dont know what commands to use to get it to start the run i think it is liek "tar and some letters" but i don know can someone point me in the right direction please.

thx for the help


Please read the Gentoo Handbook:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml

Refer to: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=desktop to install a working desktop (GNOME install and configuration can be found here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml ). Gentoo has some extensive documentation to help you get comfortable. Please thoroughly read through the documentation as chances are, it will answer all of your questions.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so back on topic...

All the ebuilds for USE="accessibility" are in. I see they were committed this morning.

So, what's left?

    >=net-misc/vino-2.13.5
    >=gnome-base/gnome-screensaver-2.14.0
    >=gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.10.0
    >=mail-client/evolution-2.6.0
    >=gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.6.0
    >=gnome-extra/evolution-webcal-2.5.90
    >=sys-apps/hal-0.5.7
    >=app-text/evince-0.5.2
    >=media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.5


# >=net-misc/vino-2.13.5
This is minor, is just a vnc server and I don't think anything depends on it. I left the version at the 2.12.x version for now.

# >=gnome-base/gnome-screensaver-2.14.0
A totally new package so I expect this one might be one of the last. (Can't wait though.. much nicer integration than Xscreensaver)

# >=gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.10.0
This one has a potential to break stuff, but I beleive it should be slotted as "3.10", so it's not that bad.
I tried a version bumped ebuild, but there's more that needs to be adjusted because paths are not being defined correctly.

# >=mail-client/evolution-2.6.0
# >=gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.6.0
# >=gnome-extra/evolution-webcal-2.5.90
New Evolution (and evolution-webcal is a new package). No ebuild yet, just left at 2.12.x versions for now.

>=sys-apps/hal-0.5.7
Built and installed ok, it was a simple version bump, minus some old patches. It seems ok though automounting hotplugged devices has been broken on my system for a little while now, it does detect devices and create desktop icons. Thats probably an existing config issue I need to track down.

>=app-text/evince-0.5.2
Another simple version bump, just added to overlay and dropped one old patch. It built and installed along with deps (poppler and poppler-bindings).

>=media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.5
Version bump, built ok. Installed totem 1.4.0 to test and it works though I've gotten it to segfault a couple times when abusing it (lots of rapid seeking in Xvid video).

(Sidenote: Upgrading totem upgrade broke Rhythmbox which depends on a totem lib which was upgraded, ugh)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: gnome-mount Reply with quote

Does anyone have gnome-mount working with /etc/fstab entries? When ever I try to mount a device that a user can mount that is defined in /etc/fstab gnome-mount shows an error dialog box "You are not privileged to mount ***." Does anyone have anyway to fix this without removing the entries from /etc/fstab?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx for the help guys
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: gnome-mount Reply with quote

rapsure wrote:
Does anyone have gnome-mount working with /etc/fstab entries? When ever I try to mount a device that a user can mount that is defined in /etc/fstab gnome-mount shows an error dialog box "You are not privileged to mount ***." Does anyone have anyway to fix this without removing the entries from /etc/fstab?


I circumvent fstab using coldplug (emerge coldplug && rc-update add coldpplug boot). You could try that. All things mount flawlessly and without needing a config file. Havent used fstab since moving to GNOME 2.12.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the ebuilds are now in portage except for:

    >=sys-apps/hal-0.5.7
    >=app-text/evince-0.5.2
    >=media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.5


And none of those are required to build (possibly hal), but for all of those a simple version bump is all that's needed.

I'm installing now (about 1/2 way done).

Already found bug #126740 :)

I'd post my gnome-base/gnome-2.14.0.ebuild but I think it'll show up in portage pretty soon anyhow. PM if you want...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: gnome-mount Reply with quote

coldplug doesn't mount. The current method for removable devices is for gnome-mount to tell hal to mount. hal then creates a mount point, and mounts the new device. To do this you need to have user space events enabled in the kernel. There used to be a need for hotplug / coldplug, but not any more. The problem is that I want to have consistent moun points for my dvdrom, and my floppy drive. I don't care to have those being mounted to a mount point that hal is creating, because the mount point is inconsistent, and depends on the disk label. Also when I exit gnome, and I go to the terminal I still want to be able to mount my cds/dvds. It is easy if I have fstab entries defining my dvdrom, and floppy drive. The problem is when I have those fstab entries gnome-mount then shows an error, "You are not privileged to mount ***", and so I want to either fix the problem, or see it fixed. If someone else has experienced the gnome-mount issue I am having, I would like to see how you solved it.

An updated gnome-mount will most likely need to go into portage. The reason being is that the gnome-mount-0.4 can't mount devices that aren't polled by hal. This is a bug, and has been fixed upstream. Either a new version or a patch will need to go into the gnome-mount-0.4 that is in portage.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gnome 2.14 has just hit portage as a meta package.

Just thought I'd let you all know :-)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phaseburn wrote:
Gnome 2.14 has just hit portage as a meta package.

Just thought I'd let you all know :-)


I just checked packages.gentoo.org and gnome-base/gnome-2.14.0 isnt there
And its like a day after you posted that its in portage.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to unmask it. It is there as of now..
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, ok, but packages.gentoo.org STATES when packages are masked or not, and 2.14.0 simply isnt there, I assume it doesnt get updated as often then
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It only gets updated every few hours or so.. I know gentoo-portage.com is 3 hours.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:51 am    Post subject: packages Reply with quote

Ekiga is listed as part of the desktop at gnome.org, but I think it will be an optional package for Gentoo gnome 2.14

There are still a few optional packages that are nice:

gnome-power-manager
sabayon
nautilus-actions
pessulus

Optional games:
atomix
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just checked gentoo-portage

they have listed gnome-2.14 now. masked though.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rush_ad wrote:
just checked gentoo-portage

they have listed gnome-2.14 now. masked though.

Should be masked :P for a while at least.
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