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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:20 pm    Post subject: No video (or framebuffer) on bootup Reply with quote

Greetings,

Ever since I installed Gentoo, I have not had text display during my boot process. After GRUB passes control to the kernel, my monitor simply goes black until XFree loads and the nVidia splash screen proclaims proudly that my system is operating. Now, I do get boot text from the live CD, and from a Knoppix CD, and I used to get boot text when I used RedHat. So, obviously I have a kernel misconfiguration.

The only time I have had Gentoo display boot text was during one of my trials to get the framebuffer to work and display the text over a graphic during startup. The problem with this approach was that once X started, if I hit ctrl-alt-f# to go to a text console, the entire input layer locked up and I could only reboot the system by shelling in from another terminal (or using a power cycle). Being as I use the consoles a *lot*, that wasn't good.

Now, that reminds me - once X has started, if I ctrl-alt-F# to go to a console, I *do* get text just fine. But only once the nvidia driver has loaded and a splash screen occurs. Never before.

So, now for the juicy stuff - I've tried lots and lots of kernel configuration options, jammed in with lots of options relating to vga=#### and video={stuff} from grub, and after a while this is the flawed configuration I have settled back to:

Code:
#
# Console drivers
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
# CONFIG_MDA_CONSOLE is not set

#
# Frame-buffer support
#
# CONFIG_FB is not set


Turning off the VGA Console entirely stops X from actually loading, from what I can tell. When I use a kernel like that, I can only shell in - I never, ever, can get my monitor to display a picture.

Hardware, in case it matters ;):
* Pentium IV 2.4 @ 2.98 (and I've done everything while not overclocked; no change.) (533 MHz FSB)
* nVidia GeForce 3 Ti 500
* 1024 megs of 1066 MHz RDRAM
* Asus P4T533-C Motherboard
* 80 gig IDE RAID-1 through EVMS

Has anyone else seen this behavior? What *should* I have set with regards to my kernel settings?

I've read the bootsplash threads and this totally weird problem which looks vaguely like mine: blank framebuffer screen but I have yet to find any solutions that work, so....

Here I am. Help a poor penguinlover! ;)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure that you enabled:
Code:
CONFIG_VT=y
CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From that section of .config I have:

Code:
#
# Character devices
#
CONFIG_VT=y
CONFIG_ECC=m
CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_SERIAL=y
# CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256
# CONFIG_PRINTER is not set
# CONFIG_PPDEV is not set


So, yes, I have. :cry:
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Puggles,

Could the problem be some thing like in this thread. I also had a similar hassle, but fixed it by following the referenced thread.

Hope it works.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaftro wrote:
Could the problem be some thing like in this thread. I also had a similar hassle, but fixed it by following the referenced thread.


Well, blast, no - I tried the recommended options to pass to the kernel, on both a FB-enabled and FB-disabled kernel, and in both cases passing vga=0x371 and the video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr causes:
* My monitor to whirr and click into a higher resolution (good, changed)
* My monitor to project nothing but black onto the screen (not good, unchanged)

Fiddling with every single option for vga=ask has brought me no joy either.

Thanks, though...

Anyone know what options the live CD passes to the kernel relating to the framebuffer? *shrug*
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem...except that my X doesn't load automatically. It started when I wrote /sbin/lilo (for the first time after the installation to solve a problem).

I haven't had time to try zaftro's thread yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If X doesn't load automatically, it's either a runlevel problem, or a your-drivers-aren't-right-and-you-can't-even-tell-because-you-can't-see-the-screen problem. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well.. I haven't configured X to run automatically so it would be a miracle if it did :)
But I can write my username, password, and startx without seeing what I type, so I manage to come to X that way :)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 3:13 pm    Post subject: Question Reply with quote

Hi,

I have got the same system as you, Puggles 8)
Except the video card. I use a GeForce4.

One question:
Does your video card have a Video-In/Out and a TV-In/out??

I tried bootsplash with my "old" GeForce3 without Video-In and it worked!
With the same Configuration bootplash doesn't work :cry:

I think this is because of the Video-In,
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do your vga=xxx and your video=vesa,ywrap,mtrr<resx>x<resy>@<refresh> agree on the size?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 3:45 pm    Post subject: Yes Reply with quote

Yes, I tried that one.

As I said before: The same configuration works on a GeForce3 without Video-In/Out

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no video-in/out hooked up, nope -

Quote:
Do your vga=xxx and your video=vesa,ywrap,mtrr<resx>x<resy>@<refresh> agree on the size?


Yep...


The way I've gotten around some of this is to use SVGAlib and have it execute *really* early in my init scripts. Of course, this still means I wouldn't see an immediate kernel panic. Oh well.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 3:44 pm    Post subject: OK Reply with quote

I finally got it to work.
I had to patch my kernel, because I use 1GB RAM and my Video Card has 128MB RAM

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

make sure you have the correct patch that calculates bytes & not bits.

pfeifer-sources & gentoo-sources have the patch.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I fixed this problem by replacing my video card.

Weird, huh? :)
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have developed a similar problem, here is my thread I just started https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=54416. My problem seems to be related to one frame buffer resolution. If WinXp/nvidia drivers use the framebuffer then my problem spans two different operating systems. That evidence leads me to believe that my video card may be at fault, as the setup had been working with no changes made.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I question, I have evms initrd, I can put 2 initrd in the grub??
or I can join this 2 initrd in one? thanks
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