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alfagamma81
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 Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: How do you update everything? |
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I'm just curious. In which order do you type options when , lets say updating everything with new use flag(s)?
Personally, I always type "emerge -pvuDN world"..and after i've checked the use flags and stuff i do emerge uDN world. I never use -a option.
What combinations you usually use? -DuvNa, -uvNaD, -DaNu, NvpuD... anyone doing the same way as me?  |
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RedSquirrel
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I generally use the same thing. On a few occasions, I have fetched (-f) the sources beforehand. Sometimes I have used the --ask option for one last look at everything before I proceed with the updates. |
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alfagamma81
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| In what order do you put the options? i'm always putting --pretend --verbose --update --deep --newuse ; pvuDN. |
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John R. Graham
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I sometimes use --with-bdeps=y; I always use --reinstall=changed-use instead of --newuse. Alas, there's no short option for those.
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | | emerge -avuND world --keep-going |
I additionally have
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alias emerge="sudo nice -n 19 emerge -vt"
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in my .bashrc
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tanderson
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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I do:
| Code: | | paludis -i world --dl-reinstall if-use-changed |
Sorta simple, I just wish there was a short option for the if-use-changed stuff.[/code]
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I use this :
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# eix-sync
# emerge -puDNv world
# emerge -fuDNv world
# emerge -uDNv world
# dispatch-conf
# revdep-rebuild --ignore
# rm /usr/portage/distfiles/*
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| gentoofan23 wrote: | I do:
| Code: | | paludis -i world --dl-reinstall if-use-changed |
Sorta simple, I just wish there was a short option for the if-use-changed stuff. |
Have a enviroment variable PALUDIS_OPTIONS="--dl-reinstall if-use-changed"
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RedSquirrel
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| alfagamma81 wrote: | | In what order do you put the options? i'm always putting --pretend --verbose --update --deep --newuse ; pvuDN. |
I use that order as well. 
| Code: | # emerge -pvuDN world
# emerge -avuDN world
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RedSquirrel
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| d2_racing wrote: | Hi, I use this :
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# eix-sync
# emerge -puDNv world
# emerge -fuDNv world
# emerge -uDNv world
# dispatch-conf
# revdep-rebuild --ignore
# rm /usr/portage/distfiles/*
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Why do you empty your distfiles directory? Have you no respect for the mirrors?  |
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ppurka
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | esync
update -auD @world |
Here esync is the following function in .zshrc | Code: | esync() { # Sync emerge and do some extra stuff
emerge --sync | grep -v --color=none '/$' && {
layman -S
update-eix } || \
echo -e "\x1b[1;31m esync aborted by user\x1b[0m"
# Running fixpackages not needed. --sync seems to do something already
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and update is the script provided by steveL.
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:21 am Post subject: |
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order doesn't matter.
I use -uDNav...
| Code: | # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
# (/tmp/crontab.XXXXOKjYpx installed on Mon Mar 30 16:12:16 2009)
# (Cron version V5.0 -- $Id: crontab.c,v 1.12 2004/01/23 18:56:42 vixie Exp $)
00 02 * * * eix-sync
30 02 * * * emerge -uDNv @system @world && emerge @preserved-rebuild && revdep-rebuild && echo "no need to worry" | mail -s "success" mkern@penguin |
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d2_racing
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| RedSquirrel wrote: | | Why do you empty your distfiles directory? Have you no respect for the mirrors? |
Why keep all the packages that I may not need to reinstall |
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Order shouldn't matter, but I use
emerge -uNDav @world
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:39 am Post subject: |
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aditionally to | Code: | eix-sync
emerge world -uDN
revdep-rebuild
emerge --depclean -a |
I run to clean up keep my packages.{keywords|unmask} from time to time
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tanderson
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| alistair wrote: | | gentoofan23 wrote: | I do:
| Code: | | paludis -i world --dl-reinstall if-use-changed |
Sorta simple, I just wish there was a short option for the if-use-changed stuff. |
Have a enviroment variable PALUDIS_OPTIONS="--dl-reinstall if-use-changed" |
Yeah, I know all about that stuff, but I don't _always_ want that flag on which is why it's useful to have a short option for that.
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alfagamma81
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| poly_poly-man wrote: | order doesn't matter.
I use -uDNav...
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I know order doesnt matter, only interested to see how many possible combinations and ways people use to update their system.
my whole procedure is:
| Code: | emerge --sync
emerge -pvuDN world
emerge -uDN world
cfg-update -um (if needed)
emerge -pv --depclean
emerge --depclean
revdep-rebuild
(sometimes eclean distfiles) |
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marens
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| poly_poly-man wrote: | order doesn't matter.
I use -uDNav...
| Code: | # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
# (/tmp/crontab.XXXXOKjYpx installed on Mon Mar 30 16:12:16 2009)
# (Cron version V5.0 -- $Id: crontab.c,v 1.12 2004/01/23 18:56:42 vixie Exp $)
00 02 * * * eix-sync
30 02 * * * emerge -uDNv @system @world && emerge @preserved-rebuild && revdep-rebuild && echo "no need to worry" | mail -s "success" mkern@penguin |
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is there a difference between emerge world and emerge @world? system is normally included in world so there would be no need to hand both to emerge! is there any updated docu on portage with sets?
edit:
btw i use
0.> eix-sync (daily via cron)
1.> emerge -uDNpvt @world
2.> inspect what must be done
3.> emerge -uDN @world
4.> etc-update (with meld as diff viewer) if configs need changes
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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emerge world and emerge @world is equal I think.
It's only if you use portage 2.2, then you are able to use the set. |
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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/etc/init.d/rdate restart
emerge --sync
emerge -avuND world
eclean-dist -d |
| d2_racing wrote: | | RedSquirrel wrote: | | Why do you empty your distfiles directory? Have you no respect for the mirrors? |
Why keep all the packages that I may not need to reinstall |
Once or twice I regreted removing some sources I needed to compile while I had no network access ( eg. when I broke wpa_supplicant). |
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| d2_racing wrote: | | RedSquirrel wrote: | | Why do you empty your distfiles directory? Have you no respect for the mirrors? |
Why keep all the packages that I may not need to reinstall |
Because a patch might be applied to the portage tree, but still use the same version release, and you wouldn't then need to place demand on the server to download the same thing again???? Perhaps consider using eclean-dist and eclean-pkg instead as per below...
I have...
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FEATURES="parallel-fetch ccache"
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--verbose --alphabetical --keep-going"
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I don't sync with eix or portage as I have portage stored on my NSLU2 (a Linksys Network Add-on Storage device thats running SlugOS). Under that I have a cron jobs to sync portage and the overlays I use...
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# Mins Hours Days Months Day of the week
00 00 * * * rsync --recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage /usr/portage/
30 00 * * * /opt/bin/svn up "/usr/portage/local/layman/science/" "http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/science/overlay"
45 00 * * * /opt/bin/svn up "/usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise/" "http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/sunrise/reviewed"
00 01 * * * /opt/bin/svn up "/usr/portage/local/layman/perl-experimental/" "http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/perl/perl-experimental"
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When I boot my desktop or laptop up I then routinely run...
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emerge -uDNa @world @system
dispatch-conf
emerge --depclean ; revdep-rebuild ; eclean-dist; eclean-pkg
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Works well for me at least 
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marens
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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emerge -uDNa @world @system
dispatch-conf
emerge --depclean ; revdep-rebuild ; eclean-dist; eclean-pkg
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Works well for me at least |
and again somebody who does world + system
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| marens wrote: | | Quote: |
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emerge -uDNa @world @system
dispatch-conf
emerge --depclean ; revdep-rebuild ; eclean-dist; eclean-pkg
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Works well for me at least |
and again somebody who does world + system |
Check out the documentation here and have a read through /usr/share/portage/config/sets.conf.....
| /usr/share/portage/config/sets.conf: |
$ more /usr/share/portage/config/sets.conf
# WARNING: default set configuration, DO NOT CHANGE.
# If you want to change anything redefine the relevant section in
# /etc/portage/sets.conf. Any changes to this file will be lost on the next
# portage update, and configuration errors here might upset portage in
# unexpected ways.
# Not much that could be changed for world, so better leave it alone
[world]
class = portage.sets.files.WorldSet
world-candidate = False
# Same as for world, though later portage versions might use a different class
[system]
class = portage.sets.profiles.PackagesSystemSet
world-candidate = False
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Thus at present there is no need to use '@world @system' but I've got into the habit of doing it in case things change in the future so I don't get bitten by not updating things.
Future proofing myself
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have emerge aliased to:
| Code: | | emerge='sudo ionice -c 3 emerge --jobs=6 --keep-going --load-average=25 --ask --tree -v' |
the last three options are pointless, as i install with
and update with
| Code: | | emerge -DuNavt world |
not the load average may not be proper. I wanted to keepit at a quarter of the load, but didn't rtfm/stfw to find proper ratings
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