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RazielFMX
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 Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: KDE 3.5.2 Transparency |
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I have an ATi X600 video card, xorg 6.8.2, and the latest closed source ATi drivers. When I click on transparency, it says I need to add the following to my xorg.conf, which I did:
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Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
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And it is saying I need kompmgr that came with kwin. However, KDE blocks it!
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nightelf ~ # emerge -p kwin
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kwin-3.5.2-r2)
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kwin-3.5.2-r2
nightelf ~ # emerge -p kompmgr
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies
emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "kompmgr".
nightelf ~ #
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Here is my xorg.conf:
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nightelf ~ # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section "ServerLayout"
#Identifier "Multihead Layout"
Identifier "Simple Layout"
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
Screen "aticonfig Screen 0" 0 0
#Screen "aticonfig Screen 1" RightOf "aticonfig Screen 0"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "dri"
Load "glx"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "kbd"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "aticonfig Monitor 0"
HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
#Section "Monitor"
# Identifier "aticonfig Monitor 1"
# HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0
# VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0
# Option "DPMS"
#EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Graphics Adapter 0"
Driver "fglrx"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
Screen 0
EndSection
#Section "Device"
# Identifier "ATI Graphics Adapter 1"
# Driver "fglrx"
# BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
# Screen 1
#EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "aticonfig Screen 0"
Device "ATI Graphics Adapter 0"
Monitor "aticonfig Monitor 0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024"
EndSubSection
EndSection
#Section "Screen"
# Identifier "aticonfig Screen 1"
# Device "ATI Graphics Adapter 1"
# Monitor "aticonfig Monitor 1"
# DefaultDepth 24
# SubSection "Display"
# Viewport 0 0
# Depth 24
# Modes "1280x1024"
# EndSubSection
#EndSection
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Any ideas as to what I can do would be gretly appreciated. Since the xorg.conf that aticonfig generated was garbage, I pretty much set this up myself, so I'm sure I missing something.
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: |
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You're trying to install kwin alone, one of the split ebuilds, when you've installed the monolithic kdebase package. kdebase includes kwin,and kwin includes kompmgr, so it should include kompmgr. Check /usr/kde/3.5/bin. kompmgr should be there. The only thing that comes to mind is that for some reason kdebase omits kompmgr. Since there is no separate kompmgr package, the solution , if it is the case that kdebase is missing kompmgr, would be to re-install kde using the split ebuilds. The simplest way to do that is to emerge the kde.*-meta packages. Otherwise, you need to emerge each one individually. That's fine if you want to pick and choose, but it can take awhile.
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didymos
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Oh, did you compile kdebase with the "xcomposite" USE flag? If you have gentoolkit installed do this to find out:
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equery uses kdebase
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RazielFMX
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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I have kwin installed:
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nightelf 3.5 # pwd
/usr/kde/3.5
nightelf 3.5 # find . -name 'kwin' -or -name 'kompmgr'
./include/kwin
./bin/kwin
./share/doc/HTML/en/kompmgr
./share/apps/kwin
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nightelf 3.5 # equery uses kdebase
[ Searching for packages matching kdebase... ]
[ Colour Code : set unset ]
[ Legend : Left column (U) - USE flags from make.conf ]
[ : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ]
[ Found these USE variables for kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1 ]
U I
+ + arts : Adds support for aRts: the KDE sound daemon
+ + cups : Add support for CUPS (Common Unix Printing System)
- - debug : Tells configure and the makefiles to build for debugging. Effects vary across packages, but generally it will at least add -g to CFLAGS. Remember to set FEATURES=nostrip too
+ + hal : Enable Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) support
- - ieee1394 : Enable FireWire/iLink IEEE1394 support (dv, camera, ...)
+ + java : Adds support for Java
- - kdeenablefinal : Makes kde ebuilds use the enable-final flag, yielding big compilation speedups at the cost of very heavy mem usage
+ + ldap : Adds LDAP support (Lightweight Directory Access Protocol)
- - lm_sensors : Adds linux lm_sensors (hardware sensors) support
- - logitech-mouse : Build the Control Center module to configure logitech mice
- - openexr : Support for the OpenEXR graphics file format (www.openexr.com).
+ + opengl : Adds support for OpenGL (3D graphics)
+ + pam : Adds support PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) - DANGEROUS to arbitrarily flip
+ + samba : Adds support for SAMBA (Windows File and Printer sharing)
+ + ssl : Adds support for Secure Socket Layer connections
- - xcomposite : Support for the Xorg composite extension.
+ + xinerama : Add support for the xinerama X11 extension, which allows you to stretch your display across multiple monitors
- - xscreensaver : support for the XScreenSaver extension.
- - zeroconf : Support for DNS Service Discovery (DNS-SD).
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Looks like we found the problem.
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Cool. At least you don't have to completely switch to the split ebuilds.
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm running:
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emerge --newuse -u --deep world
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Which apparenly, 68 packages are affected/need updating. I'll run a depclean afterward, and revdep-rebuild.
Last time I did this, su stopped working... So let's hope for the best (I hadnt even made it to the depclean stage, I just rebuilt the box).
The only thing I am concerned about is the system wants to go the 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 and I'm currently running 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 as my kernel. Are there any known issues in 2.6.16? I'm leaving my symlink pointing to 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 for now, but I am thinking of upgrading my kernel to 2.6.16-r7.
When I mention issues I mean with KDE/Xorg/fglrx, since they are the only things giving me issues. Running off the console or ssh-ing into the box from my win xp workstation, all my utilities and command line apps work beautifully.
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| Don't bother with composite if you want to use fglrx...the driver doesn't support EXA or COMPOSITE. You will have to try the open source drivers. I don't know how well supported the x600 is, but I have an x300 and I get decent performance with EXA+COMPOSITE (although I have to use MergedFB with two screens or else the performance is horrible...very strange behavior I must say). Who knows when ATI will support COMPOSITE. |
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: |
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It's alright, I wanted to recompile my whole system anyway, since, although this box is for work, I'm using it to teach myself more about gentoo, and linux in general (My experience is primarily Solaris 8 and 10, with a little redhat thrown in). I'm setting up the support for now, even if I can't use it yet. I've always loved my ATi video cards on my gaming PCs (Win2k, WinXP), and always felt them to be superior to nVidia, so this begs the question, does nVidia Linux support suck as bad as ATi? If not I might have to rethink my loyalties now that I'm getting more into Linux...
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| widremann wrote: | | Don't bother with composite if you want to use fglrx...the driver doesn't support EXA or COMPOSITE. You will have to try the open source drivers. I don't know how well supported the x600 is, but I have an x300 and I get decent performance with EXA+COMPOSITE (although I have to use MergedFB with two screens or else the performance is horrible...very strange behavior I must say). Who knows when ATI will support COMPOSITE. |
I have an X300, and I found the performance to be very very slow... How did you get yours working?
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| beatryder wrote: | | widremann wrote: | | Don't bother with composite if you want to use fglrx...the driver doesn't support EXA or COMPOSITE. You will have to try the open source drivers. I don't know how well supported the x600 is, but I have an x300 and I get decent performance with EXA+COMPOSITE (although I have to use MergedFB with two screens or else the performance is horrible...very strange behavior I must say). Who knows when ATI will support COMPOSITE. |
I have an X300, and I found the performance to be very very slow... How did you get yours working? |
Didn't tryed composite on my X800, but one thing is fact, my UT2004 runs faster in linux... have been testing same maps and Linux gives me average of 160 FPS, windows xp 143 FPS  |
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| beatryder wrote: | | widremann wrote: | | Don't bother with composite if you want to use fglrx...the driver doesn't support EXA or COMPOSITE. You will have to try the open source drivers. I don't know how well supported the x600 is, but I have an x300 and I get decent performance with EXA+COMPOSITE (although I have to use MergedFB with two screens or else the performance is horrible...very strange behavior I must say). Who knows when ATI will support COMPOSITE. |
I have an X300, and I found the performance to be very very slow... How did you get yours working? |
I'm using Xorg 7.0 but xf86-video-ati is at version 6.6.0 (unmask and use ~x86) and xorg-xserver is at version 1.0.99 (also unmask and ~x86). I enabled EXA in xorg.conf and disable RenderAccel. I also force backingstore to be disabled (although I think by default it's disabled anyways). The real trick to make it work it seems is to use MergedFB to create a dualscreen setup, but I don't use the second screen. For some reason, composite works pretty good that way, but with a single screen it varies and with the older drivers is unbearably slow. Here's the relevant part of my xorg.conf:
| Code: | Option "RenderAccel" "false"
Option "AccelMethod" "exa"
Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
Option "backingstore" "false"
Option "MergedFB" "true"
Option "CRT2Position" "RightOf"
Option "CRT2Hsync" "50-75"
Option "CRTY2VRefresh" "30-82"
Option "MonitorLayout" "LCD,CRT" |
MigrationHeuristic doesn't do anything in the non-bleeding edge CVS drivers, but I left it in anyways. |
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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emerge broke my system, so I'm starting over. Awesome. Something about the fact update world downgraded my qt version, which means I cant do anything with KDE anymore.
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, this is interesting as well...
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$ su - root
Password:
configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'MOTD_FILE' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_ROOTPATH' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MIN_LEN' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
smbox ~ #
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