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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Reboot Reply with quote

I am so close now.

I were finished with the instalation, then I reboot, but when I tries to load the new OS it says

!!The root block device is unspecified or not detected.
please specifi a device to boot, or "shell" for a shell...
boot() :: _

I instaled a Grudge, I treid to change the files

/boot/grub/grub.conf

(That showes:

default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.16-r7
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.16-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 udev
initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.16-gentoo-r7)

and /etc/fstab


(that showes

/dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults,noatime 1 2
/dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hda3 / ext3 noatime 0 1

none /proc proc defaults 0 0

/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0)

What do I do?
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure your kernel includes the drivers for your ide or sata controller and for the filesystem you put on your root partition.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also make sure you used a proper initrd and that you included support for your partition type.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Intrid problem but I fixed It.

I used genkernel to make my kernel, becuse I got some errors when I konfigured it myself.

And I have maked a change in /etc/fstab from /dev/hda3 / ext3 noatime 0 1 to /dev/hda3 / ext3 default 0 1
Nut I still get the error.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the lack of answering mean that noone knows it and I may report this as a bug?
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could you post the outcome of fdisk -l after booting with your livecd?
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Device(=)boot(=)Start(=)End(=)Blocks(=)Id(=)System
/dev/hda1(=)*(=)1(=)500(=)4016218+(=)83(=)Linux
/dev/hda2(=)(=)501(=)623(=)987997(=)82(=)Linux Swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3(=)(=)624(=)4865(=)34073865(=)83(=)Linux



/dev/hdb1(=)*(=)1(=)14945(=)120045681(=)7(=)HPFS/NTFS



the (=) is spaces, becuse I have experience with the forum to delete all my butifull spaces when I have used time to make the nearly perfect :evil:

(Another little question: Do my /dev/hdb1 have to get a Linux system to work with the other systems in Linux?)
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try changing this in your grub.conf file
Code:
title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.16-r7
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.16-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 udev
initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.16-gentoo-r7)

to
Code:
title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.16-r7
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.16-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 udev
initrd (hd0,0)/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.16-gentoo-r7)


Will.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord_DACAL wrote:
Another little question: Do my /dev/hdb1 have to get a Linux system to work with the other systems in Linux?

You don't need to change this into ext2 or 3 or any other Linux-native fs. You can compile NTFS Read and Write support into your kernel or as a module (File Systems -> DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems), but it is quite restricted: you can only update files, you can't create new ones:
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CONFIG_NTFS_RW:

This enables the partial, but safe, write support in the NTFS driver.

The only supported operation is overwriting existing files, without
changing the file length. No file or directory creation, deletion or
renaming is possible. Note only non-resident files can be written to
so you may find that some very small files (<500 bytes or so) cannot
be written to.

While we cannot guarantee that it will not damage any data, we have
so far not received a single report where the driver would have
damaged someones data so we assume it is perfectly safe to use.

Note: While write support is safe in this version (a rewrite from
scratch of the NTFS support), it should be noted that the old NTFS
write support, included in Linux 2.5.10 and before (since 1997),
is not safe.

This is currently useful with TopologiLinux. TopologiLinux is run
on top of any DOS/Microsoft Windows system without partitioning your
hard disk. Unlike other Linux distributions TopologiLinux does not
need its own partition. For more information see
<http://topologi-linux.sourceforge.net/>


My suggestion would be to use fat32 if you need compatibility with WindozeXP
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first messege: It (from I) did not make a change

The Second: Can I Change the system without damaging the data? (I heard it deletes everything on it!)
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are tools that can help you convert it from NTFS to FAT32 (I don't know if changing to ext2 is possible), but as a rule of thumb, I always make a backup of a my partition if I'm going to do partitioning stuff...

Powerquest Partitionmagic is such a software, but it's not for free.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohhh thanks... About the other dilemma?
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have come across this message afew times when installing gentoo.

The first thing i allways forget to do is emerge

e2fsprogs - For some reason i have not been able to boot up without this on some of my older systems

Secoundly my fstab was not set correclty.

When using a filesystem other than ext2 or ext3 i have had to emeger file system tools .

i.e reiserfsprogs for reiser support.

I get this problem quite alot when i do gentoo installs .

For me its only ever been one of the above problems .

Hope this helps you.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About the fstab, is it not set corectly after the data I posted? (do you need more then just ask :D )

I have no other system than, the handbook tels to do, becuse I am new to Linux and just want the safe and secure way to do things, until I get a batter hold on it...
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that I had maked a error in the typing of one of my posts so I corekted it :D
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi man if u could tell me what patitions ur using how many drives and what file systems
Also i am quite new to linux my self and come across many of problems.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did above ;)
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok my friend so are u using ext2 and ext3 partitions then ?

If so have u emerged e2fsprogs ?
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohhh he he it is not there ups sory my friend... /dev/hda1 is ext2, /dev/hda3 is ext3, /dev/hda2 is a swap

I have tried to emerge e2fsprogs, without any changes.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok just to check u are booting from the cd and then chrooting into ur enviroment and then emerging the program

Sorry if this dosent work im just trying to help as well as i can .

Unless there is something missing in the kernel

may ia ask what kernel u are u using .

But that has allways been the problem for me.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.16-gentoo-r7

I did it in the chrooted invoriment

I am delighted for all the help I can get.

Sorry if something is spelled wrong or something in that way, becuse english is not my native langugae :D
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats fine mate , Right im off home and i will carry on helping u when im home .

Iwill have a think .
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm I know this were the wrong way to do things but

1) I had the problem that I posted above

2) no one answers me

3) I ask why, and gets a responce (thank you)

4) then no one answers again, so I search for the answer on the forum (this is here the wrong order comes in becuse I had to do this first, but now I am honest) and I were not able to find anything that there were a bunch of persons that have the same problem, but there were no solution to the problem.

Is it therefor there is no answers to this post? are there no one there knows a solution? and if no, what can I do now I want gentoo installed and I am persist on this one, but now the instaltion have ben going on i 3 weeks :( and I am beginning to be a little irretaded on the instalation.
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.

What version of genkernel are you using?
Code:
# emerge -pv genkernel
If you're using genkernel-3.3.11c, that should be your problem. There is a known bug with it.
Do you see any references to devfs right before getting the error on boot?
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you see any references to devfs right before getting the error on boot?


No It is scanning, then it has aktivated udev, then when it is beginning to "Determining root device..." it shows the error


Quote:
What version of genkernel are you using?


It is genkernel-3.3.11d
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