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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Ati X1300 / Xorg 7 Reply with quote

Hello,

following several Howto's / Tutorials / Forum Posts from gentoo wiki and this forum i installed ati-drivers-8.21.7-r1 because the newest one isnt supported by xorg 7, which i intent to use for xgl. then i installed xorg 7, run aticonfig on the xorg config file and tried to startx:

Code:
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Jun  8 17:13:36 2006
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found


im trying this on a Dell Inspiron 6400 Notebook, and i had xorg 6.8 + kde working before with the newest ati drivers. went trough a lot of forum posts here but i didnt found a solution to this problem, so im hoping someone might had the same problem and fixed it? ;)

so long..
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will have to use at least ati-drivers 8.24.8 with your card, previous releases don't support it. Then, as long you use xorg-7.0 it should work with ati binary drivers, only xorg-7.1 isn't supported by them yet (see sticky post about it, I also overlooked it first).

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Ati X1300 / Xorg 7 Reply with quote

skceb wrote:
Hello,

following several Howto's / Tutorials / Forum Posts from gentoo wiki and this forum i installed ati-drivers-8.21.7-r1 because the newest one isnt supported by xorg 7, which i intent to use for xgl. then i installed xorg 7, run aticonfig on the xorg config file and tried to startx:

Code:
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Jun  8 17:13:36 2006
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found


im trying this on a Dell Inspiron 6400 Notebook, and i had xorg 6.8 + kde working before with the newest ati drivers. went trough a lot of forum posts here but i didnt found a solution to this problem, so im hoping someone might had the same problem and fixed it? ;)

so long..


ATi does not exactly support XGL that well, much less the xcomposite extention. I would wait until ATi gets their act togather.

As for your problem, varfiy the driver does indeed exist by going to /lib/modules/(your-current-kernel-version)/video/ - The fglrx driver should be listed there. If you upgraded your kernel you will need to re-emerge ati-drivers.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx for your replys!

i changed to ati-drivers-8.24.8, xorg-server-1.0.2-r4, xorg-x11-7.0-r1

ls -la /lib/modules/2.6.16-gentoo-r7/video/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 574281 Jun 9 13:03 fglrx.ko

startx:
Code:
xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.10944


X Window System Version 7.0.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686
Current Operating System: Linux mk 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 #24 SMP Wed Jun 7 15:04:54 CEST 2006 i686
Build Date: 09 June 2006
        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun  9 13:51:05 2006
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) module ABI minor version (6) is newer than the server's version (5)
(EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
(EE) module ABI minor version (6) is newer than the server's version (5)
(EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
(EE) No Input driver matching `mouse'
(EE) No Input driver matching `kbd'
No core keyboard

Fatal server error:
failed to initialize core devices
Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000
printing eip:
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0002 [#1]
SMP
Modules linked in: fglrx
...

now follows about 50 lines of kernel panic errors, i tried to echo it into a logfile but it doesnt get written.
let me know if you need those kernel panic errors then i will spent a minimum of 15 minutes to write it down ;)

i tried it several times, system freezes.

xorg config:
Code:

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "Main Layout"
        Screen      0  "aticonfig Screen 0" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Mouse2" "SendCoreEvents"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "another layout"
        Screen         "Screen 1" 0 0
        Screen         "Screen MGA 1" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "simple layout"
        Screen         "Screen 1" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
        RgbPath      "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"

        Load  "dbe"
        SubSection "extmod"
                Option      "omit xfree86-dga"
        EndSubSection
        Load  "type1"
        Load  "freetype"
        Load  "dri"
        Load  "glx"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"

        Option      "blank time" "10"   # 10 minutes
        Option      "standby time" "20"
        Option      "suspend time" "30"
        Option      "off time" "60"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"


        Identifier  "Keyboard1"
        Driver      "keyboard"
        Option      "AutoRepeat" "500 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

        Identifier  "Mouse1"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "Microsoft"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse2"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "MouseMan"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/mouse2"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

        Identifier   "Generic Monitor"
        ModeLine     "640x480" 25.2 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "aticonfig Monitor 0"
EndSection

Section "Device"

        Identifier  "Generic VGA"
        Driver      "vga"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "any supported Trident chip"
        Driver      "trident"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "MGA Millennium I"
        Driver      "mga"
        Option      "hw cursor" "off"
        BusID       "PCI:0:10:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "MGA G200 AGP"
        Driver      "mga"
        Option      "pci retry"
        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "ATI Graphics Adapter 0"
        Driver      "fglrx"
        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"

        Identifier "Screen 1"
        Device     "Generic VGA"
        Monitor    "Generic Monitor"
        DefaultDepth     8
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Virtual   800 600
                Depth     8
                Modes    "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     4
                Modes    "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     1
                Modes    "640x480"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"

        Identifier "Screen MGA1"
        Device     "MGA Millennium I"
        Monitor    "Generic Monitor"
        DefaultDepth     16
        Option      "no accel"
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     8
                Visual    "StaticColor"
                Modes    "1280x1024"
                Option      "rgb bits" "8"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     16
                Modes    "1280x1024"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
                Modes    "1280x1024"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen MGA2"
        Device     "MGA G200 AGP"
        Monitor    "Generic Monitor"
        DefaultDepth     8
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     8
                Visual    "StaticColor"
                Modes    "1280x1024"
                Option      "rgb bits" "8"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "aticonfig Screen 0"
        Device     "ATI Graphics Adapter 0"
        Monitor    "aticonfig Monitor 0"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

its the xorg.conf.example w/o comments and parsed/edited by the aticonfig utility. (--initial)

any ideas?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT: Have seen sputniks post, maybe first follow what he says for the first part..

I also had kernel panics with ati-drivers that sounded similiar with my notebook, and I remember that it had to do with my ServerLayout section and there with the entries for the InputDevices. Here is how mine looks now:
Code:
Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "Default Layout"
        Screen         "aticonfig Screen 0" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Generic Keyboard"
        InputDevice    "Touchpad" "AlwaysCore"
EndSection
You could try to copy my two InputDevice entries to your xorg.conf and see if it helps. The PS/2 mouse I use doesn't need an entry there.
Ah, and you can also try with latets ati-drivers, 8.25.18, as these solved a lot of annoyances. And, if you use kde with kdm, change the line
Code:

TerminateServer=false

to
Code:

TerminateServer=true

in your "/usr/kde/3.5/share/config/kdm/kdmrc". This avoids hardlocks that occur for many people on logout of a session.
If you use gdm the solution is similiar.

Bye, Val.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

X Window System Version 7.0.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686
Current Operating System: Linux mk 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 #24 SMP Wed Jun 7 15:04:54 CEST 2006 i686
Build Date: 09 June 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun 9 13:51:05 2006
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) module ABI minor version (6) is newer than the server's version (5)
(EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
(EE) module ABI minor version (6) is newer than the server's version (5)
(EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
(EE) No Input driver matching `mouse'
(EE) No Input driver matching `kbd'
No core keyboard



What is the output of: emerge -pv xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi again,

Sputnik66:
xf86-input-keyboard: version 1.0.1.3
xf86-input-mouse: version 1.0.4
installed. i already downgraded them because i've seen inn another posting here that if i downgrade xorg ill have to downgrade those input drivers too. (made this after my last post)

Tlaloc:
i dont use the latest ati drivers cause i read they are not supported by xorg 7.
tried your xorg.conf settings, but what you describe there doesnt help alot, they are just the identifiers, what would be interesting is which drivers those identifiers of you are assigned to?

error message update:
when starting x, (startx) i get
...
coulnd open RGB_DB /usr/lib/X11/rgb
xf86openserial: can not open device /dev/mouse
no such file or dir
...

the screen gets black, then back to console and the kernel panic - system freezes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skceb wrote:

i dont use the latest ati drivers cause i read they are not supported by xorg 7.
tried your xorg.conf settings, but what you describe there doesnt help alot, they are just the identifiers, what would be interesting is which drivers those identifiers of you are assigned to?


The latest drivers do support Xorg 7.0 (not 7.1) without a hitch.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skceb wrote:

Tlaloc:
i dont use the latest ati drivers cause i read they are not supported by xorg 7.
tried your xorg.conf settings, but what you describe there doesnt help alot, they are just the identifiers, what would be interesting is which drivers those identifiers of you are assigned to?

Of course you have to adjust the identifiers to yours, but I meant you to omit/use the options that come after the identifiers. Sorry, I was not clear enough there. :oops:
And I have working ati-drivers-8.25.18 with xorg-7.0 very well here (xorg-7.1 is indeed not working with these drivers). Anyway, you seem to have missed something in the documentation while upgrading to modular xorg, it's hard to spot where afterwards.
Do you have these two lines (or similiar) in your make.conf?
Code:

VIDEO_CARDS="ati fglrx"
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse synaptics evdev"

Bye, Val.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think ill try from scratch, not that a big deal cause i still have my desktop for work... this time directly with xorg-7.0,newest ati drivers, and masked keyboars/mouse drivers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no idea why, but now it works ;) did a fresh stage3 install and afterwards the xorg install. thx for ur help guys! i think i'll involve myself now with xgl... ;)

so long...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also going for XGL now. But I am using a parallel Dapper install for now as my laptop is my main machine. :lol:
Lets see how the x600 in my notebook works...
Bye, Val.
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