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Robert S
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 Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:43 am Post subject: Konqueror konqs out on www.microsoft.com (is this a joke!!?) |
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I'm running konqueror 3.5.3. When I browse to www.microsoft.com (yes - some people still do this occasionally), all of my konq windows shut down.
I've just done the same thing with konq 3.5.2 on Gentoo and Ubuntu and have had the same response. I get the crash handler in ubuntu (maybe I haven't got it installed on gentoo). I don't have a problem with firefox.
Is this saboage on the part of the konq devs, or M$?
[EDIT] I've fixed it by changing my browser identification to Explorer 6.0 on Win XP. I'd still like to know why this happens. |
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jfb3
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Very odd since I don't have the problem (with 3.5.3) and my browser ID string says it's Konqueror.
They probably just don't like you. |
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Robert S
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| Strange - it happens on 3 machines. I use a proxy for all of them. Maybe thats the problem. |
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Juippisi
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Hahah, it happens here too. I'm not behind any proxy, but konqueror surely crashes when enterin www.microsoft.com . Odd, very odd.
Ok, I'm now trying with IE6 identification. Let's see if it works... and no. I tried to set up an identification for www.microsoft.com and microsoft.com and browsed there but Konqueror still crashed.
Ok so, does microsoft.com have some "killer-code" or is Konqueror's developers joking around? Konqueror doesn't crash on jfb3, so are we (I and Robert S) missing something? Odd, very odd... |
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trumee
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| It crashed on me as well!! |
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Juippisi
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, I think it's time to report a bug. If this happens in Ubuntu and Gentoo, the reason must be Konqueror itself. So bugs.kde.org -> |
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Robert S
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Looks like its being attended to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128595
I wonder if this is a M$ "bomb"? I've never seen konq crash on a page like this before. |
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Juippisi
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Ah, thank you. I'll start monitoring that bug then. |
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rndusr
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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It happens for me too, but actually, I find it very hard to think Microsoft has the time to find and exploit bugs in Konqueror.
The really bad thing is the web developers - why can't they just stick to the standards? Why is there a need for ActiveX on every page, or 15025399013958109 Flash ads, or Java applets and so on?
But even though the internet is getting more and more polluted, Konqueror should not die when it tries to navigate it.
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avieth
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Doesn't crash me (3.5.3) but the CSS is all screwy. Probably because they hacked it to work on internet explorer, but since konqueror understands CSS it looks the way it was programmed. |
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IvanMajhen
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| It crashes for me too. Konqueror 3.5.2. I'll upgrade to 3.5.3 and see if still happens. |
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MADcow
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:34 am Post subject: |
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crashes here on 3.5.3 giving knoq as identification and IE6 on XP as identification. i haven't tried anything else - i'm a firefox fan.
this is very odd, though. reminds me of konqueror from a few years ago  |
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GNUtoo
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:41 am Post subject: |
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doesn't crash
konqueror 3.4.3
kde 3.4.3 |
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dalek
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Well, Mozilla works but it did crash Konqueror though. I run KDE 3.5.3 here.
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i4dnf
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:32 am Post subject: |
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no crash here konq 3.5.3 on kde 3.5.3
| Code: | # emerge konqueror
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies ... done!
[ebuild R ] kde-base/konqueror-3.5.3 USE="java kdeenablefinal -arts -debug -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama" |
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Master_of_Puppets
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Crashes too here (v 3.5.2) i think it's a problem of the 3.5.2 version and has seemingly been fixed in 3.5.3
i think i won't upgrade, i like that security-mechanism 
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dalek
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:05 am Post subject: |
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I have 3.5.3 and it killed mine too. It may be something to do with what is compiled in:
| Code: | root@smoker / # emerge -pv konqueror
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] kde-base/konqueror-3.5.3 USE="arts java -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama" 0 kB
Total size of downloads: 0 kB
root@smoker / #
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Anybody notice something different or common to ones that crash??
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Robert S
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| I can confirm that 3.5.3 crashes as well. |
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Cintra
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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It happens on Slax too using 3.5.2 ..
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gerard27
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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I tried it in Mozilla.It doesn't freeze or anything but when I click
an item on the menu at left nothing happens.
I guess the site knows it is not a Wndows OS browsing it.
At the top there is some graphics (I think) but it doesn't open. |
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pilla
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| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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it crashes on 3.5.2
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tchak
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| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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crash on 3.5.3 here
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Master_of_Puppets
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| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't crash here for me since I updated to 3.5.3!
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guino
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| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: also on konqueror 3.5.3, a nice feature by the way |
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Hi everybody,
This is an absolutelly nice Konqueror feature! 
Apart from my intel gentoo, it is also reproducible on my AMD64 Ubuntu dapper.
Alexei,
| Code: | Portage 2.1.1_pre1-r4 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-4.1.1/vanilla, glibc-2.4-r3, 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 i686)
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System uname: 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz
Gentoo Base System version 1.12.1
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r2, 2.4.3-r1
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
dev-util/ccache: [Not Present]
dev-util/confcache: [Not Present]
sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.18.1
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.60
sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2
sys-devel/binutils: 2.17
sys-devel/gcc-config: 2.0.0_rc1
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r5
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86 ~x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-Os -march=pentium4 -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/NX/etc /usr/NX/home /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/eselect/compiler /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c"
CXXFLAGS="-Os -march=pentium4 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/ http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo/ http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo http://ftp.snt.ipv6.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo/ http://mirror.gentoo.no/ http://ftp.caliu.info/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.caliu.info/pub/gentoo/ http://linuv.uv.es/mirror/gentoo/"
LANG="es_ES"
LC_ALL="es_ES"
LINGUAS="es_ES"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages'"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/portage/local/layman/portage-xgl"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="x86 7zip X a52 aac abook acpi aim alsa amarok amd amr amrr apache apache2 apm applet aqua_theme arts artswrappersuid artworkextra athena atlas auctex audacious automount avantgo avi berkdb bigpatch bitmap-fonts bluetooth bonobo buttons cairo calendar carbone_theme cdb cdda cddb cdf cdio cdparanoia cdrom cli commercial corba crypt css cups dbus delays dga dict dio dlopen dmx dnd dpms dri dvd dvdr dvdread dvi dynagraph edl eds effects emacs emacs-w3 emboss encode epson esd esoob evolution extraicons extramodules extras fbcon fbdev fbsplash fdftk fftw figlet filepro finger firefox flash flood fltk fluidsynth fontconfig foomaticdb fortran freetext gb gd gdbm gif gimp gimpprint ginac glgd glitz glx gmail gmailtimestamps gnokii gnome gnome-print gnomecanvas gnomedb gnuplot gnustep gnutls gphoto2 gpm grammar graphviz gs gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkspell gzip h323 hal hdf hfs html ical icq id3 idea image imap imlib imlib2 inifile input_devices_evdev input_devices_joystick input_devices_keyboard input_devices_magellan input_devices_magictouch input_devices_mouse input_devices_mutouch input_devices_synaptics input_devices_vmmouse input_devices_void ipv6 irmc isdnlog jabber jikes joystick jpeg kde kdeenablefinal kdepim kdexdeltas kdgraphics kexi kqemu lame lapack largeterminal latex lcd leim lesstif libg++ libvisual libwww lm_sensors logitech-mouse logrotate mad maps math mikmod mime mimencode ming mjpeg mod mod_python mono motif mouse mozcalendar mozilla moznoroaming mozsvg mp3 mp4live mpd-mad mpe mpeg mpeg2 mpi mplayer msn msql mssql mule music musicbrainz nautilus ncurses netcdf new-login nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin ogg opengl oss pam pcre pda pdflib perl plotutils png pop ppds pppd preview-latex python qt quicktime rar rdesktop readline real reflection reiser4 reiserfs rss samba sdl sensord session sftp slp sox spell spl ssl svg symlink tcltk tcpd tetex themes theora thesaurus threadsonly timidity transcode truetype truetype-fonts type1 type1-fonts udev utf8 v4l v4l2 vcd vcdimager vfat vhosts video_cards_ati video_cards_fbdev video_cards_radeon video_cards_v4l video_cards_vesa video_cards_vmware videos visualization vnc voice vorbis wifi win32codecs wma wma123 wordperfect wv wxwindows x11vnc xanim xchat xcomposite xemacs xext xforms xft xml xmldoclet xmlreader xmlrpc xmms xorg xprint xrandr xscreensaver xv yahoo zeroconf zlib zvbi elibc_glibc kernel_linux linguas_es_ES userland_GNU"
Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS
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The kcrash report:
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ugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread -1230539088 (LWP 15699)]
[KCrash handler]
#6 0xb656c565 in non-virtual thunk to DOM::HTMLObjectElementImpl::~HTMLObjectElementImpl() () from /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkhtml.so.4
#7 0xbff9cb80 in ?? ()
#8 0x0855ff14 in ?? ()
#9 0xbff9cbb4 in ?? ()
#10 0xbff9cc04 in ?? ()
#11 0x00000001 in ?? ()
#12 0x00000001 in ?? ()
#13 0xb6738718 in ?? () from /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkhtml.so.4
#14 0x08560330 in ?? ()
#15 0x0856f4c8 in ?? ()
#16 0xbff9cbf4 in ?? ()
#17 0xb65a01a9 in non-virtual thunk to DOM::HTMLObjectElementImpl::~HTMLObjectElementImpl() () from /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkhtml.so.4
#18 0x084cd444 in ?? ()
#19 0x0856f4c8 in ?? ()
#20 0x00000000 in ?? () |
And my konqueror is 3.5.3:
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guino@marmota ~ $ konqueror --version
Qt: 3.3.6
KDE: 3.5.3
Konqueror: 3.5.3
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rizzurant
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:40 am Post subject: |
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hmm, nothing strange
Qt: 3.3.3
KDE: 3.3.0
Konqueror: 3.3
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