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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmfin wrote:
xlyz: I have fluxbox and X 4.3 as well, and can't launch xterm, probably same problem as yelp. Need to look into that more.

not the same problem

xterm works fine here (as well as aterm)

yelp can be launched fine if I start idesk after I launched my fluxbox session

yelp abort if I start idesk putting it in .xsession

idesk 0.3.5 has the same problem

hope this additional info can help :D
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, right now yelp will crash on my if I open it all in fluxbox, I will see if I get it to work at all first.

edit: I am having the same problem as you. When I'm in gnome yelp will start with a crash error if idesk was loaded in the x startup scripts (I used gdm's session configs), but if if idesk is started after gnome is up and running (the middle click reloading will not work either) yelp works fine.

I guess it is the same problem causing yelp to do this as well as never start for me in fluxbox, hmmm. I don't know a whole lot about what goes on when x starts up or when gnome starts up, but I wonder if there is some process setup or something. When idesk opens a file it only just uses a sh system call to get the program going, nothing facy. I don't see why that should make a difference. Hmm, this will be harder...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I installed the dev version from the website and configuration and running went smooth. Only issue is I want them to be on the bottomleft horizontal but they always start up vertical to the top right. I set the SnapOrigin to bottom left with no luck...
Code:
table Config
  SnapOrigin: BottomLeft
  FontName: tahoma
  FontSize: 8
  FontColor: #ffffff
  Locked: false
  Transparency: 150
  Shadow: true
  ShadowColor: #000000
  ShadowX: 1
  ShadowY: 1
  Bold: true
  ClickDelay: 300
  SingleClick: true
  IconSnap: true
  SnapWidth: 1024
  SnapHeight: 50
  SnapShadow: true
  SnapShadowTrans: 200
end

That is the config im using for .ideskrc, any ideas? Btw the icons look amazing![/code]
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmfin wrote:
Ok, right now yelp will crash on my if I open it all in fluxbox, I will see if I get it to work at all first.

edit: I am having the same problem as you. When I'm in gnome yelp will start with a crash error if idesk was loaded in the x startup scripts (I used gdm's session configs), but if if idesk is started after gnome is up and running (the middle click reloading will not work either) yelp works fine.

I guess it is the same problem causing yelp to do this as well as never start for me in fluxbox, hmmm. I don't know a whole lot about what goes on when x starts up or when gnome starts up, but I wonder if there is some process setup or something. When idesk opens a file it only just uses a sh system call to get the program going, nothing facy. I don't see why that should make a difference. Hmm, this will be harder...


with fbdesk yelp works. maybe you can look in its code ...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alsh: All the snap orgin options work for me, I think that I have confused you with the snap settings I have set up. I've drawn a cude ascii diagram below to try to illustrate how things currently work.

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               .          .          .
               .          .          .
               |__________|__________|_______ . . .
               |          |          |
               |          |          |
           y   |          |          |
               |          |          |
               |          |          |
         [>    |__________|__________|________ . . .
         |           x
         |           
         |

This is the bottom left of the desktop


X represents the snap width
Y represents the snap height
Snap origin only describes which corner of the screen

So basically set snap width to the width of the "box" you want the icon contained in and set snap height to the height of the "box" you want the icon contained in.

The icon will snap to the middle of that box specified by snap width and snap height. So with a snap width of 1024, you will have each horizontal snap position over 1000 pixels apart. Set the snap width to something around the width of your icon (50-60ish probably) and I bet you will get what you wanted.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok the diagram helped me get the idea of the snap thing, still didnt fix the problem, but I noticed in my .lnk files for each icon I left the coords at X: 0, Y: 0 and when I play around with those I can get the icons to go wherever I want, so with a little bit of toying I got them set straight ;) Im sure the 1024 width thing wasnt helping at all either, thanks for the help.
Edit: Got a screenshot up so you can see what I was going for and that I got it working :) ... its here


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know that you can drag the icons around with the mouse right? Well that is if the icons are unlocked (double right click to lock or unlock them).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmfin wrote:
You know that you can drag the icons around with the mouse right? Well that is if the icons are unlocked (double right click to lock or unlock them).

Oh haha now I know... owell I got it working the hard way ;) I edited my above post and put a link in to a shot on my webspace so you can see I got the bottomleft like I wanted to hehe.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, you mind if I use that pic in my screenshots section?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmfin, it would be great if you would have an icons section :)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmfin wrote:
Cool, you mind if I use that pic in my screenshots section?

Not at all :)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:14 am    Post subject: Single-click behaviour Reply with quote

Hi timmfin, I'm enjoying using idesk but the single-click behaviour (execute on mouse-down) was bugging me, so I changed it to execute on mouse-up. With this patch you can also move icons around while in SingleClick mode.

You should be able to make out my changes in this screenshot (higher quality png). ;)

I also removed the double-click processing from XIcon.cpp because it became redundant.

Thanks for your good work (and same to the other team members).
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xlyz: By chance are you running idesk in your xinitrc with nohup? That seemed to fix a few similar problems, but it is just a hunch in your case.

hook: Sure I think that would be a good idea. Right now there would probably only be a few links to svg icon packgages, but that is better than nothing. Maybe it will encourage more svg icon creation.

CYwolf: Hey thanks, I didn't think about the whole click release thing. I've added that change. If you want to be on the credits page let me know. Oh yea, I will appreciate any patches you make in the future as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 3:59 pm    Post subject: SVG zooming Reply with quote

I don't want to drive this thread too off topic, but how's that SVG zooming feature coming along? As soon as I heard you were putting SVG support into idesk and people were talking about being able to make your icons huge and still look good -- I was definitely thinking rather about the possibility of zoom/magnification. I'm really glad to see on your website that there is mention of development being done on it. Any word on the status?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: SVG zooming Reply with quote

Jeff In Motion wrote:
I don't want to drive this thread too off topic, but how's that SVG zooming feature coming along? As soon as I heard you were putting SVG support into idesk and people were talking about being able to make your icons huge and still look good -- I was definitely thinking rather about the possibility of zoom/magnification. I'm really glad to see on your website that there is mention of development being done on it. Any word on the status?


SVG is a vector picture (=not a bitmap as most are), so you can always resize it without any loss of quality ...afaik, it's already implemented in idesk

...like that "clipart" shit
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmfin wrote:
xlyz: By chance are you running idesk in your xinitrc with nohup? That seemed to fix a few similar problems, but it is just a hunch in your case.

nohup does not help

I tried also to put it in the command line of ~/.idesktop/yelp.lnk
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi


How do I put a wallpaper on a desktop draw by idesk and waimea?
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xlyz wrote:
timmfin wrote:
xlyz: By chance are you running idesk in your xinitrc with nohup? That seemed to fix a few similar problems, but it is just a hunch in your case.

nohup does not help
I tried also to put it in the command line of ~/.idesktop/yelp.lnk

for the moment I solved launching a term that launch yelp
Code:
  Command: aterm -g 1x1 -e yelp ; exit

it's really an ugly solution
timmfin please please fix it :)
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yoannez wrote:

How do I put a wallpaper on a desktop draw by idesk and waimea?


as usual :D ...using bsetbg or Esetbg

example:
Code:
bsetbg macmotiva-orange_001.jpeg


Esetbg is needed if you want transparency in Eterm ...but since that gives you some misshapes of the icons that are in the same location in the root window as the Eterm i try to aviod it[/code]
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeff in motion: Well, I have not worked on that all, but some of the things curious was working on would really make some improvement in that area. Unfortunatly it seems like I have lost contact with him and I have not heard any futher information in a long time. So I'm assuming that he is not working on it anymore. I'm sorry that it hasn't happened yet, I really can't code for idesk during the school year (unfortunately I'm one of those overachiever types).
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hook:


What package install bsetbg ?
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What package install bsetbg ?


i don't really know, i had it all the time :? ...it's probably XFree, if not that it's fluxbox or even blackbox
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What package install bsetbg ?

Code:
$ qpkg -f /usr/bin/bsetbg
x11-misc/commonbox-utils *

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmfin: any news about the fix of yelp crash?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I also have a Xft problem....here's my output:

Code:

# emerge idesk Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) x11-misc/idesk-0.3.5-r2 to /
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) idesk-0.3.5.tar.gz
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking idesk-0.3.5.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/idesk-0.3.5-r2/work
>>> Source unpacked.
 * Applying idesk-0.3.5-clickbox-and-singleclick.patch...                 [ ok ]
g++ -I/usr/include/freetype2 -U__linux__ -c Desk.cc -o Desk.o
g++ -I/usr/include/freetype2 -U__linux__ -c Icon.cc -o Icon.o
g++ -I/usr/include/freetype2 -U__linux__ -c Database.cc -o Database.o
g++ -I/usr/include/freetype2 -U__linux__ -c Main.cc -o Main.o
g++ Desk.o Icon.o Database.o Main.o -o idesk `imlib-config --libs` -lXft
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternAddInteger'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternAddBool'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternGetBool'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcFreeTypeCharSet'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcNameUnparse'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcNameConstant'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderQueryExtension'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcObjectSetDestroy'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderFreePicture'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternDuplicate'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcCharSetHasChar'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcFontList'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcUtf16ToUcs4'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcUtf8ToUcs4'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternVaBuild'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderCompositeString8'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternGetDouble'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderCompositeText32'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderFillRectangle'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternGetString'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcInit'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternGetInteger'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderCompositeString16'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderCompositeText16'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderFindVisualFormat'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternGetCharSet'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternCreate'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternAddString'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternGet'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderSetPictureClipRectangles'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternAddDouble'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderSetPictureClipRegion'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderCreateGlyphSet'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderFreeGlyphs'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcConfigSubstitute'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcObjectSetCreate'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternDestroy'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcCharSetCount'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcNameRegisterObjectTypes'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderCompositeString32'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderQuerySubpixelOrder'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcObjectSetAdd'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternAdd'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcStrCmpIgnoreCase'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderAddGlyphs'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcConfigGetBlanks'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcFreeTypeCharIndex'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcNameParse'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternGetFTFace'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderChangePicture'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternGetMatrix'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderCompositeText8'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderFindFormat'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderQueryVersion'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcPatternPrint'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderCreatePicture'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `XRenderFreeGlyphSet'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcFontMatch'
/usr/lib/libXft.so: undefined reference to `FcDefaultSubstitute'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [idesk] Error 1
 
!!! ERROR: x11-misc/idesk-0.3.5-r2 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 31, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
 


any idea??

xft update??

Code:

# emerge --pretend xft
 
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B     ] >=x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r2 (from pkg x11-libs/xft-2.0.1-r2)
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/xft-2.0.1-r2


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