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neuron
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 Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: Google video/youtube. |
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Both google video and youtube uses flash to stream movies (on google I can ofcourse download the movies, but I'd prefer streaming).
I can watch them using firefox-bin and flash, but flash has it's incredibly annoying sound desync.
What I'd prefer to do is some way of using mplayerplug-in to stream the movies, it says it has google video support (also vlc lists google video support), but how does it work? When I use google video I get flash, no matter what. |
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cyblord
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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adding this to my ego-seach.
 I can't even get sound with google-video/youtube. |
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Shan
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| cyblord wrote: | adding this to my ego-seach.
I can't even get sound with google-video/youtube. |
In my case while under KDE (and not using arts) if I've had something accessing /dev/dsp recently firefox wont have access to it. I've got to stop all of my other sounds, close firefox, and try again.
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cyblord
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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great! I got sound working for flash after restarting firefox.
is there a permanent solution though? |
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discostu
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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I used to have no problem with sound in firefox on youtube, google video, and other flash stuff. But one day it stopped working. I've tried quitting everything that uses sound, and restarting firefox. But still never any sound. BTW, I'm using Gnome.
I'm pretty sure I have everything I need in the kernel:
| Code: | │ │ <*> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture │ │
│ │ <*> Sequencer support │ │
│ │ < > Sequencer dummy client │ │
│ │ <*> OSS Mixer API │ │
│ │ <*> OSS PCM (digital audio) API │ │
│ │ [*] OSS Sequencer API │ │
│ │ <M> RTC Timer support │ │
│ │ [*] Use RTC as default sequencer timer │ │
│ │ [ ] Dynamic device file minor numbers (EXPERIMENTAL) │ │
│ │ [*] Support old ALSA API │ │
│ │ [ ] Verbose printk │ │
│ │ [ ] Debug |
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discostu
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: |
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It seems that /dev/dsp weren't group readable/writable to audio group. chmod fixed that.
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electrofreak
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:18 am Post subject: |
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I'm actually not having any sound problems with firefox and other things at the same time.... But, the sound desync is VERY VERY annoying, most definitely when watching google videos.
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discostu
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| electrofreak wrote: | | I'm actually not having any sound problems with firefox and other things at the same time.... But, the sound desync is VERY VERY annoying, most definitely when watching google videos. |
Yes, I agree this is very annoying. I don't think there is anyway to fix it. I think it's a problem with the flash player itself.
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electrofreak
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:38 am Post subject: |
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ugh, they fricken need a 64-bit flash. Didn't adobe buy flash and are they working on a 64-bit flash version??
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ali3nx
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I've been having the same problem aswell and after seeing this thread i thought it might be worth investigating it. It seems the current udev rules force /dev/dsp to be created in /dev/sound/dsp then symlinked to /dev/dsp which regardless of what you try to do will allways be root owned ( i tried to chown the symlink about five times without success ) leaving you with the same problem. I fixed it by deleting the /dev/dsp symlink then editing the udev rules for /dev/dsp to *not* make /dev/dsp a symlink but rather the actual character device which fixed it nicely. If there's a dev reading this ( perhaps chriswhite or the udev maintainers ) maybe fix this? The old addage "I symlinked it coz it looks cool" doesn't work here 
| Code: | # sound devices
KERNEL=="adsp", NAME="sound/%k", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="adsp[0-9]*", NAME="sound/%k", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="audio", NAME="sound/%k", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="audio[0-9]*", NAME="sound/%k", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="dsp", NAME="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="dsp[0-9]*", NAME="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="mixer", NAME="sound/%k", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="mixer[0-9]*", NAME="sound/%k", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="sequencer", NAME="sound/%k", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="sequencer[0-9]*", NAME="sound/%k", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="audio" |
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neuron
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| discostu wrote: | | electrofreak wrote: | | I'm actually not having any sound problems with firefox and other things at the same time.... But, the sound desync is VERY VERY annoying, most definitely when watching google videos. |
Yes, I agree this is very annoying. I don't think there is anyway to fix it. I think it's a problem with the flash player itself. |
it is the flash player, but google video does have a mime type, to open it's own custom player. And other players, such as mplayerplug-in and vlc can use that mime type to stream using that instead of flash.
The only problem is that it doesn't seem to work for me  , it still opens using flash. |
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Monkeh
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| There's not much you can do about the sync issues on 64-bit. You have to either use 32-bit firefox and 32-bit flash, or 64-bit firefox and nspluginwrapper. Either way, audio has to (as far as I know anyway) get software mixed, even if you have hardware mixing. Once we have a real 64-bit flash, it should work fine. |
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stupidkid
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| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it might be the fast that flash is only on version 7. Either that or it just doesn't work on Linux. Both my Gentoo desktop and Ubuntu laptop have this problem with voice syncing. Oh and mine are both x86. |
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neuron
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| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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well, youtube might not be fixable, but there is a mimetype for google video, and therefor (imo) it should be possible to select the player yourself.
Isn't this how the google video player works on windows? (it's based on vlc code or something iirc). |
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rizzurant
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:49 am Post subject: |
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after upgrading my kernel to 2.6.16, i cant play flash anymore (firefox and opera), although plugins installed
it is the kernel ?
using alsa-driver
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[root@kayak linux]# less .config |grep SND
CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=m
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
# CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY is not set
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
# CONFIG_SND_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set
CONFIG_SND_SUPPORT_OLD_API=y
# CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_SND_MPU401_UART=m
CONFIG_SND_OPL3_LIB=m
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=m
CONFIG_SND_AC97_BUS=m
# CONFIG_SND_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MTPAV is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MPU401 is not set
CONFIG_SND_CS4231_LIB=m
# CONFIG_SND_AD1816A is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AD1848 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALS100 is not set
CONFIG_SND_AZT2320=m
# CONFIG_SND_CMI8330 is not set
--cut--
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1724 is not set
CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
--cut--
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LordHugeMongus
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| rizzurant wrote: | after upgrading my kernel to 2.6.16, i cant play flash anymore (firefox and opera), although plugins installed
it is the kernel ?
using alsa-driver
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[root@kayak linux]# less .config |grep SND
CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=m
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
# CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY is not set
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
# CONFIG_SND_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set
CONFIG_SND_SUPPORT_OLD_API=y
# CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_SND_MPU401_UART=m
CONFIG_SND_OPL3_LIB=m
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=m
CONFIG_SND_AC97_BUS=m
# CONFIG_SND_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MTPAV is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MPU401 is not set
CONFIG_SND_CS4231_LIB=m
# CONFIG_SND_AD1816A is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AD1848 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALS100 is not set
CONFIG_SND_AZT2320=m
# CONFIG_SND_CMI8330 is not set
--cut--
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1724 is not set
CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
--cut--
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i had a problem like this when i compiled a new kernel, alsa volume controls worked fine but the oss emulated /dev/dsp was muted until i ran alsaconf (in alsautils package if you don't have that installed).. once i went thru the setup everything worked fine. Oh yes, and make sure snd_pcm_oss is loaded too  it looks like its set as a module. |
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rizzurant
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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hmm, nothing changed
my xmms running properly, but when im browsing to youtube/google video, or other flash based site .. i got blank screen at flash section ....
but when using my old kernel, its normal, i also re-emerged the firefox ..but nothing ....
btw, thanks for the advice |
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