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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject: Corporate/Enterprise Network Design Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

I need you your advice. Currently i'm building a network infrastructure for our company.

* Network Status: [existing]

ISP --> Cisco Router 2510 --> Wireless Lan [private networks]


* My Plan - Actually my plann is to build a ftp server,file and print server, dns, firewall and other servers for the company.

Quote:

ISP
|
Cisco Router 2510
|
firewall --> Switch --> Servers [i think i'll put here public ip servers]
'--> Switch --> private networks [using wireless lans]


I heard also from my friends about DMZ. I dont know where to put it how to setup. Any advice!

Note: ALL servers are running gentoo and also the firewall/freebsd

thanks a lot!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, to begin with, if you have only just heard about a DMZ and also since you don't know where it goes, I'd be telling your employer that you just don't have the skills or knowledge to perform this task and get someone to do the network design for you.

you may be good enough to fudge through the actual implementation, but that is different from designing it. similar to an systems engineer and a systems administrator - a vast difference.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

celestialwizard wrote:
Ok, to begin with, if you have only just heard about a DMZ and also since you don't know where it goes, I'd be telling your employer that you just don't have the skills or knowledge to perform this task and get someone to do the network design for you.

you may be good enough to fudge through the actual implementation, but that is different from designing it. similar to an systems engineer and a systems administrator - a vast difference.


yah right..!

thats why i ask your help..so that i could learn from it.. just dont tell me that i would not perform the task. a way to learn is to perform those task. :twisted:
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair cop.

A good place to start would be the advanced networking howto and the netfilter howto. both can be found at www.tldp.org

things to think about....
what services do you need?
  • who do you need them for?
  • which services are needed inside and outside the organisation?
  • which services needed outside of the organisation are for the entire world and which are for a set of customers?


a follow-on question is why do you need them? "because XYZ Co has <insert service here>" isn't enough. it needs to provide an actual benefit - especially if you are enabling access to your internal network.

there are a few ways to provide internal services to the outside too.
  • VPN
    • IPSec
    • L2TP
    • PPtP
    • SSL
    • other userland based ones sitting on top of ssh for example

  • DMZ
  • Port mapping via NAT


there are also various layouts you can use.

Code:
net --- router --- firewall --- switch --- dmz --- firewall --- internal network

or
Code:

net --- router --- firewall --- switch --- dmz
                            --- switch --- internal network


Cost is usually the biggest factor in determining network security.
If possible, I'd argue for the two bastion host model (layout one). although it increases over head, it minimizes risk in that it is another layer of security. other things to consider include having different types of firewalls. ie, iptables + ciso pix or cisco acs, etc...


you also need to look out for services you wish to offer externally in your DMZ that connect back to your internal network. you want to lock that down as much as possible. VLANs are also useful, especially when splitting up different DMZ services that don't interact with each other.

again, it all depends on what you want to offer.

VMWare ESX (not GSX or Server) may also be useful for hosting your DMZ services as you can use separation as well as implement VLANs while reducing the number of physical servers required to provide them.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

janskey wrote:
celestialwizard wrote:
Ok, to begin with, if you have only just heard about a DMZ and also since you don't know where it goes, I'd be telling your employer that you just don't have the skills or knowledge to perform this task and get someone to do the network design for you.

you may be good enough to fudge through the actual implementation, but that is different from designing it. similar to an systems engineer and a systems administrator - a vast difference.


yah right..!

thats why i ask your help..so that i could learn from it.. just dont tell me that i would not perform the task. a way to learn is to perform those task. :twisted:


What the heck are you going to do when your questioned about something you don't know about in a meating and you make yourself look like an ass.
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