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Herodot Guru
Joined: 29 Jul 2002 Posts: 429 Location: Professor Xavier's school for gifted youngsters
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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hanzotutu wrote: | Could you please give more details about why initially the Helvetica is not AA'ed, and what you did to get it back? Thanks. |
Not really, I'm afraid.
Helvetica exists only as a core X font, a bitmap font. How and where these are antialiased I don't know. It used to work, it suddenly didn't, it started working again.
My suggestion is to emerge the newest xtf and fontconfig, and the 2.1.4 Freetype. The first two are easy, they just emerge. With Freetype you have to choose between the Bytecode interpreter (patent problems, thin letters) or the Autohinter (Free, thick letters) Code: | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" USE="cjk -prebuilt" emerge freetype
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ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" USE="-cjk prebuilt" emerge freetype |
You can also enable/disable them with fontconfig, but it's a quick emerge, so that's just as easy.
If this doesn't immediately give you AA, you may have to add something like Code: | <match target="font">
<edit name="antialias" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match> | to your /etc/fonts/local.conf or a similar per user file.
There are still many thing about fonts I don't get, but that's a simple howto. _________________ Excelsior! |
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swat Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Jul 2002 Posts: 144
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Is it me, or has the ebuild for these fonts completely vanished ?
Simon |
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d3c3it l33t
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 765 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 12:07 am Post subject: |
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somethings screwed up for me ive tired every way descriped in this and i still cant see the fonts and now when i run switch 2 to change the fonts it just closes because of "Segmentation fault"
and when i run fc-cache -fv it still caches the /usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera folder howd i stop that? because ive copied them over to the vera folder in /usr/X*/lib/X*/fonts/
any idea?
EDIT Fixed it i made a mistake in 1 my config files 1 thing thou how do you change the size of the fonts when using AA ie when im not using it my GTK+ apps the size can be changed but using AA the fonts on menus etc are much larger
i still cant get AA to work and when i select it in the fluxbox config the fonts are HUGE and ugly _________________ Some people go to counselling,
others use linux |
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chr1z Apprentice
Joined: 17 Jul 2002 Posts: 207
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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how do i use the Vera fonts in GTK1 apps? it seems that i can only select them with GTK2 apps. |
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papabean Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 26 Oct 2002 Posts: 130 Location: Sacramento, California
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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d3c3it wrote: | i still cant get AA to work and when i select it in the fluxbox config the fonts are HUGE and ugly |
Check out the FAQ on www.fluxbox.org to correct that. I copied my current style locally and made the edits there. It entails changing the font entries in the style's config to something smaller. It's worth it.
However, I can't figure out how to specify the vera fonts in the style config. Is there a way I can see what fonts it's attempting to load? If there are any fluxbox gurus out there, speak up please. _________________ -- The world is full of tough guys. It doesn't need me to be one too. |
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d3c3it l33t
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 765 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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papabean wrote: | d3c3it wrote: | i still cant get AA to work and when i select it in the fluxbox config the fonts are HUGE and ugly |
Check out the FAQ on www.fluxbox.org to correct that. I copied my current style locally and made the edits there. It entails changing the font entries in the style's config to something smaller. It's worth it.
However, I can't figure out how to specify the vera fonts in the style config. Is there a way I can see what fonts it's attempting to load? If there are any fluxbox gurus out there, speak up please. |
Thanks man ill try it again once ive reinstalled *screwed some stuff up lol* _________________ Some people go to counselling,
others use linux |
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Yinchie Apprentice
Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 179 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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papabean wrote: | However, I can't figure out how to specify the vera fonts in the style config. |
1) xfontsel
2) choose font
3) select
4) paste into style config
5) reload style |
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d3c3it l33t
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 765 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yinchie wrote: | papabean wrote: | However, I can't figure out how to specify the vera fonts in the style config. |
1) xfontsel
2) choose font
3) select
4) paste into style config
5) reload style |
i dont know about anyone else but you rock man you helped loads:D _________________ Some people go to counselling,
others use linux |
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Yinchie Apprentice
Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 179 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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d3c3it wrote: |
i dont know about anyone else but you rock man you helped loads:D |
Its a wierd habbit I got it.
Whenever I know a answer about something I just _have_ to answer |
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ghetto Guru
Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 369 Location: BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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lol.. sounds like a terrible disease _________________ Blizzard you suck. |
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d3c3it l33t
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 765 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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ghetto wrote: | lol.. sounds like a terrible disease |
but to the advantage of fellow "not-a-clue" gentoo newbies like myself _________________ Some people go to counselling,
others use linux |
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ghetto Guru
Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 369 Location: BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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true _________________ Blizzard you suck. |
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cies n00b
Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 11:56 am Post subject: Souldn't these fonts be added to XFree? |
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Souldn't these fonts be added to the XFree distribution... This we can all use these nice font (1) by default, if we want, and (2) in every program (not only by default in gnome).
Cheers,
Cies. |
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nephros Advocate
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 2139 Location: Graz, Austria (Europe - no kangaroos.)
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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maxmc wrote: | How you came to be l33t is beyond my knowledge.
Emerge the gimp-1.3, the masked one.
select and paste the ebuilds into favorite editor.
save as name-version.ebuild into /usr/local/portage/right-directory
then it's just emerge name-of-ebuild
sortof... |
also, there are ebuilds of the beta releases (1.3.x) for the gimp here: http://gentoo.de/inhalte/download/ebuilds_de (German ahead, but links easy to detect ;)) _________________ Please put [SOLVED] in your topic if you are a moron. |
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chriskwan n00b
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 59 Location: Nashua, NH, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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is it just me, or does the Vera family look exactly like the Luxi family?
and isn't the Vera family default on Bluecurve (redhate's desktop) _________________ [sic] |
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zombie n00b
Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 3:03 am Post subject: gtk apps' look in kde |
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Hey I didn't do a lot of research on that but what the hell, I'm curious, how do you change the look of a gtk2 app to fit the theme you've chosen for your kde apps? Since gnome 2 has appeared, I've tried it a couple of times but even if it has some nice features, I found it to be awkward and crashy. So I'm sticking with KDE 3.1 for now, but some of my favorite apps are written with gtk, and it'd be nice to make em look like the rest of my environment. Yeah I know I been lazy, not reading any doc and such, but if anybody feels like answering, you're more than welcome _________________ Fear the power of Johnnie Walker |
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IntergalacticWalrus Guru
Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 513 Location: Montreal QC (Canada)
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Well it's pretty sad but those new fonts suck. Hell, even the crappy Luxi family (THAT COMES WITH XFree86 IN THE FIRST PLACE) looks better.
And you guys, the best UI font is, IMHO, definitely Trebuchet MS. Go ahead and try it, it's part of Microsoft Core Web Fonts so you should have it already. Especially without font hinting on sans-serif fonts (forgot who mentionned it on the forums, but it's the best font advice ever), Trebuchet MS looks goddamn sweet. |
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IntergalacticWalrus Guru
Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 513 Location: Montreal QC (Canada)
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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chr1z wrote: | how do i use the Vera fonts in GTK1 apps? it seems that i can only select them with GTK2 apps. |
You probably need to add
Load "freetype"
in the Modules section of your XF86Config. |
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ghetto Guru
Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 369 Location: BC, Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 3:58 am Post subject: |
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I love it when people try to tell people what they think looks nice and try to pass it off as fact...
what looks nice entirely depends upon an individuals taste: Personally speaking I dont like big buts.. but some guys just cant get enough of them.. meh.. but if a guy likes his girl to have some extra junk in the trunk then who am i to judge. _________________ Blizzard you suck. |
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Yinchie Apprentice
Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 179 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:40 am Post subject: |
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[img:10046d9085]http://www.relaxz.net/archives/gedit-bitstream_vera-tmp.png[/img:10046d9085] |
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ghetto Guru
Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 369 Location: BC, Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 9:30 am Post subject: |
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I love your window manager, where did you get it?
Is it Metacity or Sawfish or uh.. e17? (I know that e17 is not a windowmanager..) _________________ Blizzard you suck. |
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Yinchie Apprentice
Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 179 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Its E16.
Tried E17 once, find it very buggy and I dont need all the extra bloat. |
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elfy n00b
Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 35 Location: Minnesota, US
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Off OS: I tried these fonts on a Win2K box, and it gave me excellent (!!) results.
I love it!! _________________ "Everyone is someone's weirdo"
-Dykstra |
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Herodot Guru
Joined: 29 Jul 2002 Posts: 429 Location: Professor Xavier's school for gifted youngsters
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yinchie: A screenshot is always good, now we know what we're talking about.
I also get this kind of look with these settings, but I don't like it. A couple of IMOs FYI (and everybody else):
- Size 10 is too big for me. I'm using 1600x1200 at 112x110 dpi on a 19" (18.1") CRT monitor. Size 8 is what I use.
- The autohinter makes the letters (glyphs) look bold-ish and the edges aren't sharp. This becomes a problem with small fonts, eg. size 7-, especially in bold. Like the KDE taskbar.
- All letters look good, apart from "m". It has different sized arches, the Bytecode interpreter doesn't do that. _________________ Excelsior! |
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