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bobobo
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wc -l /etc/paludis/keywords.conf
2 /etc/paludis/keywords.conf
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Honestly, the stable and ~arch difference doesnt seem that useful to me. There is usually very little difference in actual stability between a stable and an unstable package. The 'stability' of a package is usually more dependant on the project itself than the version.
Arch packages are recent and thus might theoretically contain more undiscovered/unfixed bugs, but on my system i don't notice that. If anything, arch packages contain many fixes/improvements over the older packages.
I used to run a stable system, then switched to ~arch, the most visible difference is the time saved by not messing around with keywords. |
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mv
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| bobobo wrote: | | I used to run a stable system, then switched to ~arch, the most visible difference is the time saved by not messing around with keywords. |
I think the main difference is that with ~arch you will have to compile 2-10 times more packages than with arch if you update regularly, because ~arch packages are released much more often. |
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reavertm
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | app-admin/metamonitor
dev-java/sun-jdk
dev-util/kdevelop
dev-util/kdesvn
media-sound/k3guitune
media-video/kmplayer
media-video/mplayer
net-www/netscape-flash
net-p2p/dclib
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x11-themes/gtk-engines-qt
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bobobo
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| mv wrote: | | I think the main difference is that with ~arch you will have to compile 2-10 times more packages than with arch if you update regularly, because ~arch packages are released much more often. |
Hmm true, forgot about that. On a slow system running arch could get tedious fast.[/quote] |
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mantono
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | =dev-lang/nasm-0.98.39-r3
=x11-misc/pypanel-2.4
=net-irc/xchatosd-5.19
=x11-themes/gtk-chtheme-0.3.1
x11-wm/openbox
media-gfx/inkscape
www-client/mozilla-firefox
media-fonts/artwiz-aleczapka-en |
Never had any problem at all with any of the mentioned packages. The number of few packages which I actually have had problems compiling are marked stable anyway. |
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Jointy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hy...
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jointy@plato ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords | wc -l
258
jointy@plato ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.use | wc -l
25
jointy@plato ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.unmask | wc -l
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The mostly are XMMS.
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steveL
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| Sorry to butt in, I've been learning bash (#bash on freenode is excellent) and just wanted to point out that the prior example is what's called a `useless use of cat'. In this case a simple wc -l <filename> will give you the answer. I realise this is pedantic! (And you also get given the filename in the answer which may not be what you want.) It's just that if we can get gentoo-users better at bash, there should be more ebuilds (which are bash) and scripts we can use. |
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Dralnu
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| steveL wrote: | | Sorry to butt in, I've been learning bash (#bash on freenode is excellent) and just wanted to point out that the prior example is what's called a `useless use of cat'. In this case a simple wc -l <filename> will give you the answer. I realise this is pedantic! (And you also get given the filename in the answer which may not be what you want.) It's just that if we can get gentoo-users better at bash, there should be more ebuilds (which are bash) and scripts we can use. |
Like you said, there is a chance of getting a poor response from wc (the total being off). Also, in this case, the performance diffrence is negligable since the time to run is going to be rather small anyways. If it was an actual script, then I'd agree with you somewhat (I like using cat. You know what you are messing with instead of taking a chance on something screwing up somewhere).
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: package.keywords |
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994 bytes; I use beryl.
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skellr
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Uncle.. Uncle!
| Code: | x11-base/xorg-server -~x86
x11-base/xorg-x11 -~x86
x11-libs/libXrender -~x86
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lonrot_m
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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mine is 61
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MalleRIM
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| 30 Packages. Mostly packages that don't have a amd64 keyword and their unstable dependencies or just alpha/beta stuff (gnash, wine). |
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dbodner
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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cat /etc/portage/package.keywords |wc -l
33
It's mostly xfce stuff, because I run the 4.5 svn.
cat /etc/portage/package.keywords |grep xfce|wc -l
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kds66
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# Networking
net-im/skype
net-wireless/ndiswrapper
# Multimedia
media-gfx/picasa
media-video/gspcav1
# Other
sys-fs/siefs
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jel
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | jel@localhost ~ $ wc -l /etc/portage/package.{keywords,unmask,use}
13 /etc/portage/package.keywords
16 /etc/portage/package.unmask
72 /etc/portage/package.use
101 total
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I'm in ~x86. I use compiz-fusion from the desktop-effects overlay. |
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jho
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | ~ % wc -l /etc/portage/package.*
0 /etc/portage/package.keywords
17 /etc/portage/package.mask
65 /etc/portage/package.use
89 total
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~x86 box with the newest X and everything that depends on it masked.. Ratpoison would crash with it when trying to do anything. Haven't tried again since then (maybe two or three months). I think that it's still the case; there hasn't been any major releases on either of them afaik.
Many entries on package.use are for same package on different lines, since i usually use just "echo category/application blabla >> /etc/portage/package.use" when it's needed. 
| Code: | ~ % cat /etc/portage/package.use|cut -d ' ' -f 1|uniq -u|wc -l
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McLink
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | $ for i in use keywords unmask; do echo -n "package.$i: "; egrep -v '^#' "/etc/portage/package.$i" | wc -l; done
package.use: 9
package.keywords: 329
package.unmask: 184 |
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Yak
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ah.. but what about the blank lines? 
| Code: | $ for file in /etc/portage/package*; do echo -n "$file: "; egrep -v '^$|^#' $file | wc -l; done
/etc/portage/package.keywords: 78
/etc/portage/package.mask: 10
/etc/portage/package.use: 31
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Hmm.. don't even have a package.unmask |
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FastTurtle
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Here's my package.keywords
| Code: | =sys-devel/gcc-4.2.3 ~x86
=net-ftp/filezilla-3.0.4 ~x86
>=net-misc/curl-7.18.1 ~x86
mail-filter/spambayes ~x86
kde-misc/kerry ~x86 |
As to package.unmask - No Such File but I do have a package.mask which lists | Code: | | =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.24-r5 |
as the latest doesn't boot for some reason.
Here's my package.use (65 lines)
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app-cdr/k3b ffmpeg flac sndfile vcd
app-crypt/mit-krb5 tcl
app-emulation/virtualbox additions
app-office/koffice doc
app-office/openoffice -eds -gtk -firefox -ldap -gstreamer
app-misc/beagle -eds -gtk ##Needed to prevent pulling in all of Gnome
app-misc/mc 7zip slang
app-shell/bash vanilla
dev-dotnet/libgdiplus exif
dev-lang/python tk
dev-lang/swig tcl tk
dev-libs/gmime mono
dev-libs/newt tcl
dev-libs/pwlib ieee1394
games-board/pysol extra-cardsets
mail-client/claws-mail bogofilter dillo doc
mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird bindist replytolist
media-gfx/gimp lcms mmx mng sse wmf
media-gfx/imagemagick bzip2 graphiv lcms jpeg2 wmf
media-gfx/povray svga
media-gfx/sane-backends gphoto2
media-gfx/xsane gimp lcms
media-libs/flac sse
media-libs/imlib mmx
media-libs/libgphoto2 exif
media-libs/libquicktime dv ffmpeg lame x264
media-libs/libsamplerate fftw sndfile
media-libs/libsdl dga svga
media-libs/libsndfile flac
media-libs/netpbm svga
media-libs/smpeg mmx
media-libs/win32codecs real
media-libs/xine-lib flac mng vcd
media-sound/audacity flac libsamplerate jack -unicode
media-sound/amarok visulization
media-sound/sox ffmpeg flac libsamplerate sndfile
media-sound/vorbis-tools flac
media-video/ffmpeg a52 aac ieee1394 imlib mmx theora threads x264 xvid
media-video/mplayer a52 aac aalib dga dv lzo mmx mmxext mp2 rar real sse sse2 ssse3 svga theora tivo vidix x264 xvid
media-video/transcode dv extrafilters fame imagemagick lzo sse2 theora
net-misc/asterisk h323 speex sqlite
net-misc/ntp openntpd parse-clocks
net-print/cups ppds
net-print/hplip doc fax foomaticdb ppds scanner
sci-libs/fftw sse sse2
sys-apps/coreutils xattr
sys-apps/shadow cracklib
sys-devel/flex pcre
www-client/dillo truetype
www-client/elinks ftp javascript
www-client/mozilla-firefox bindist restrict-javascript
www-client/seamonkey moznocompose moznoirc moznomail java
x11-apps/xdpyinfo dga dmx
x11-base/xorgserver xprint
x11-libs/qt accessibility mng sqlite sqlite3
x11-misc/xscreensaver offensive
x11-wm/fvwm tk
kde-base/kdebase lm_sensors xcomposite xscreensaver ieee1394
kde-base/kdegraphics gphoto2 imlib povray scanner
kde-base/kdemultimedia audiofile flac theora
kde-base/kdeartwork xscreensaver
kde-base/kdewebdev tidy
kde-base/kdenetwork jingle
kde-misc/krecipes sqlite
kde-base/kdeedu kig-scripting solver |
I do prefer using package.use instead of placing lots of flags in make.conf. The reason is pretty simple really. Shorter emerge times and a more stable system for some reason.
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nZeeR
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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nzeer@balefyre ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords | wc -l
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phsdv
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| nZeeR wrote: | nzeer@balefyre ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords | wc -l
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I have even more lines in these files, but only 36 real keywords!
| Code: | $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords/* | wc -l
146 |
Now filter out comments:
| Code: | $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords/* | grep -v "#" | wc -l
67 |
Better filter out duplicates (especially blanks ...)
| Code: | $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords/* | sort -u | grep -v "#" | wc -l
37 |
Even better: | Code: | sed -e 's/#.*//;/^\s*$/d' /etc/portage/package.keywords/* | wc -l
36 |
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3igHankCh0w
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:04 am Post subject: Number of entries in /etc/portage/package.keywords |
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I looked and I have 38 some for my BroadCom 4311, some for my Arduino, and I had to add a bunch for avr dude and texlive.
I would like to add I think gentoo is great it brings back memories of what it was like to install Linux back when I started using
it back in 1997 and I am glad to say I Don't do windows |
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bastibasti
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: |
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$ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords | wc -l
93
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Mainly compiz, and xorg. then wine, avidemux etc |
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G2k
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I have a pretty large package.keywords  | Code: | $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords | wc -l
98 |
It's mostly gnome and a few other things here and there.
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